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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-25-2017 09:49 PM)Marathon Blazer Wrote: It says here http://cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=58402 that UAT owes him $1.06 million over 4 years for firing him without cause. Wouldn't a potential NCAA violation be considered for cause?
That was my thinking....that UAT has cause as he violated NCAA rules or that's the angle they'll probably go with. Kinda like cutting a scholarship amount Alabama style..kid only went to class 95% of the time while he struggled academically to end up with a 3.75 GPA, and had nothing to do with his .130 batting avg or 8.45 ERA.
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
They fired him before he actually could make the cuts...Going to be interesting...
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05-26-2017 07:11 AM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
They fired him without cause. The new admin didn't like him and if you have met him you would understand why. They won't miss the 4 million he gets for getting canned.
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05-26-2017 08:18 AM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-24-2017 02:16 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:35 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:33 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: I thought the coach had the ability to not renew a scholarship? Aren't they just one year contracts?
not at P5 schools, everyone else can
Quote:Goff was fired Wednesday after he tried to reduce or take away scholarships for as many as 10 players at the end of the season, according to the Tuscaloosa News’ Ben Jones. Such an action would constitute a violation of NCAA rules.
Players were reportedly told about Goff’s firing during a team meeting at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.
Under legislation passed in January 2015, athletic programs in the Power 5, which includes the SEC, have to renew athletic scholarships annually. Athletic scholarships from Power 5 programs can’t be revoked for athletic reasons. Goff previously coached at Louisiana Tech, which is not in the Power 5 and isn’t subject to that rule.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alaba...goff-fired
Legislation(?). Legislation by what legislative body?
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2017 01:22 PM by stodgdog.)
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-27-2017 01:21 PM)stodgdog Wrote: (05-24-2017 02:16 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:35 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:33 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: I thought the coach had the ability to not renew a scholarship? Aren't they just one year contracts?
not at P5 schools, everyone else can
Quote:Goff was fired Wednesday after he tried to reduce or take away scholarships for as many as 10 players at the end of the season, according to the Tuscaloosa News’ Ben Jones. Such an action would constitute a violation of NCAA rules.
Players were reportedly told about Goff’s firing during a team meeting at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.
Under legislation passed in January 2015, athletic programs in the Power 5, which includes the SEC, have to renew athletic scholarships annually. Athletic scholarships from Power 5 programs can’t be revoked for athletic reasons. Goff previously coached at Louisiana Tech, which is not in the Power 5 and isn’t subject to that rule.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alaba...goff-fired
Legislation(?). Legislation by what legislative body?
Quote:According to NCAA bylaw 15.3.4.3.1, which was revised three years ago, "an institution may not set forth an athletically related condition (e.g., financial aid contingent upon specified performance or playing a specific position) that would permit the institution to reduce or cancel the student-athlete's financial aid during the period of the award if the conditions are not satisfied."
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-25-2017 10:27 AM)Luckyshot Wrote: (05-24-2017 02:16 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:35 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:33 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: I thought the coach had the ability to not renew a scholarship? Aren't they just one year contracts?
not at P5 schools, everyone else can
Quote:Goff was fired Wednesday after he tried to reduce or take away scholarships for as many as 10 players at the end of the season, according to the Tuscaloosa News’ Ben Jones. Such an action would constitute a violation of NCAA rules.
Players were reportedly told about Goff’s firing during a team meeting at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.
Under legislation passed in January 2015, athletic programs in the Power 5, which includes the SEC, have to renew athletic scholarships annually. Athletic scholarships from Power 5 programs can’t be revoked for athletic reasons. Goff previously coached at Louisiana Tech, which is not in the Power 5 and isn’t subject to that rule.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alaba...goff-fired
If the NCAA has rules for P5 that separate them from the rest of us, then our Presidents have already ceded the separation.
Indeed they have, and I don't even agree with that NCAA legislation!!! This means a player can do whatever they want to, as long as it's not rape or murder, and still be on the team!! I don't blame the 'Bama coach for wanting to clear the roster, and this stupid rule will make coaches not really want to coach anymore.
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05-28-2017 10:30 AM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
This rule, $11M coaching incomes, more facilities upgrades than most US cities can afford,... are some of the numerous byproducts of P5 schools having more money than they know what to do with.
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05-28-2017 12:19 PM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-27-2017 04:34 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-27-2017 01:21 PM)stodgdog Wrote: (05-24-2017 02:16 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:35 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:33 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: I thought the coach had the ability to not renew a scholarship? Aren't they just one year contracts?
not at P5 schools, everyone else can
Quote:Goff was fired Wednesday after he tried to reduce or take away scholarships for as many as 10 players at the end of the season, according to the Tuscaloosa News’ Ben Jones. Such an action would constitute a violation of NCAA rules.
Players were reportedly told about Goff’s firing during a team meeting at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.
Under legislation passed in January 2015, athletic programs in the Power 5, which includes the SEC, have to renew athletic scholarships annually. Athletic scholarships from Power 5 programs can’t be revoked for athletic reasons. Goff previously coached at Louisiana Tech, which is not in the Power 5 and isn’t subject to that rule.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alaba...goff-fired
Legislation(?). Legislation by what legislative body?
Quote:According to NCAA bylaw 15.3.4.3.1, which was revised three years ago, "an institution may not set forth an athletically related condition (e.g., financial aid contingent upon specified performance or playing a specific position) that would permit the institution to reduce or cancel the student-athlete's financial aid during the period of the award if the conditions are not satisfied."
OK. I never associated NCAA rules with legislation.
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05-28-2017 01:21 PM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-24-2017 02:21 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: I think after what he did at Tech he'd be a hot commodity even after what happened at Bama
LA Tech should re-hire Goff. All Lane Burroughs did this year was snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Burroughs let a really good baseball team miss making the regionals. The guy (Burroughs) has some serious coaching issues (e.g., too much sacrifice bunting, poor base running, poor pitching staff management, etc...) and may be in over his head at LA Tech.
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(05-28-2017 10:30 AM)DawgNBama Wrote: (05-25-2017 10:27 AM)Luckyshot Wrote: (05-24-2017 02:16 PM)blazerjay Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:35 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: (05-24-2017 01:33 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: I thought the coach had the ability to not renew a scholarship? Aren't they just one year contracts?
not at P5 schools, everyone else can
Quote:Goff was fired Wednesday after he tried to reduce or take away scholarships for as many as 10 players at the end of the season, according to the Tuscaloosa News’ Ben Jones. Such an action would constitute a violation of NCAA rules.
Players were reportedly told about Goff’s firing during a team meeting at 1 p.m. on Wednesday.
Under legislation passed in January 2015, athletic programs in the Power 5, which includes the SEC, have to renew athletic scholarships annually. Athletic scholarships from Power 5 programs can’t be revoked for athletic reasons. Goff previously coached at Louisiana Tech, which is not in the Power 5 and isn’t subject to that rule.
https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alaba...goff-fired
If the NCAA has rules for P5 that separate them from the rest of us, then our Presidents have already ceded the separation.
Indeed they have, and I don't even agree with that NCAA legislation!!! This means a player can do whatever they want to, as long as it's not rape or murder, and still be on the team!! I don't blame the 'Bama coach for wanting to clear the roster, and this stupid rule will make coaches not really want to coach anymore.
Not quite. The NCAA is basically saying: you can reduce or take away a scholarship for any reason that is NOT related to athletic ability. So if you have an undesirable player that you want gone you just have to be smart about it. Assuming the athlete is a rule follower, attends class, etc, but you want him to leave (because you want the money) tell him that he won't travel, won't play, etc. any kid who wants to play will ask for a release and now you have your scholarship back. Of course, you better not put restrictions on that release.
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06-03-2017 12:56 AM |
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pilot172000
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
I had class just outside of Joe Sewell Stadium last week and man what a stadium. The SEC doesn't skimp on baseball. The new coach from Auburn doesn't seem like an improvement which tells me Goff really must have pissed some people off to get the shaft.
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06-05-2017 02:35 PM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(06-05-2017 02:35 PM)pilot172000 Wrote: I had class just outside of Joe Sewell Stadium last week and man what a stadium. The SEC doesn't skimp on baseball. The new coach from Auburn doesn't seem like an improvement which tells me Goff really must have pissed some people off to get the shaft.
Mississippi State is doing a $50M renovation on their baseball stadium.
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06-05-2017 03:02 PM |
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RE: OT: Alabama fired their baseball coach Greg Goff after 1 year (Ex La-Tech coach)
(06-05-2017 03:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote: (06-05-2017 02:35 PM)pilot172000 Wrote: I had class just outside of Joe Sewell Stadium last week and man what a stadium. The SEC doesn't skimp on baseball. The new coach from Auburn doesn't seem like an improvement which tells me Goff really must have pissed some people off to get the shaft.
Mississippi State is doing a $50M renovation on their baseball stadium.
I drove by it last year and its pretty impressive too, but the Sewell was a brick castle. What made State's so cool was all the retired #s and championship signs. SEC baseball must be where they dump all the excess football money. Arkansas's stadium isn't any to laugh at either.
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