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(06-01-2018 12:47 AM)army56mike Wrote:  
(05-31-2018 03:47 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  The text messages by Briles are the worst in my opinion, and they involve McCaw as well. I don't know how someone can dismiss those.

What do the text messages say?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/baylor/2...cord-shows

Just Google it and there are plenty of articles about it.
06-01-2018 04:31 PM
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Yeah I can’t just take this and contribute this as facts. I would like to see the entire text conversation and actually someone other than word of mouth (feelings from media) plus statements from Pepper Hamilton’s “findings.” Also this article and findings were still around the time when the incident was still an uproar(died down some). Since then, there have been flaws from the school itself from the actions of the regents and the results from the attorneys that retain cold evidence. I will just say till now, it is strange that a school will fire someone and then give them millions if they had any involvement with these accusation. Same could go with McCaw, who wasn’t fired and decided to just leave.
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McCaw Article

This is an article quoting McCaw and others on the whole Baylor situation. The whole thing sounds so toxic and I don't want anything to do with anyone involved. But since McCaw defends Briles, it would appear that he would hire him again.
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(06-30-2018 12:16 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  McCaw Article

This is an article quoting McCaw and others on the whole Baylor situation. The whole thing sounds so toxic and I don't want anything to do with anyone involved. But since McCaw defends Briles, it would appear that he would hire him again.

It is toxic, but wrongful actions is no way to “handle the situation.” I believe there’s still questions for Briles and McCaw, but the investigation was poorly done and sketchy that I believe that both men deserve redemption. I think Briles would be an interesting coach, but I’m not sure if McCaw would hire him. I could be wrong on this; others believe it could be Hugh Freeze as well haha. The bottom line is that TG should not have another season after the 2018 season just based on his record. Although this is a logical position, they might keep him based on high ups in favor of him(TG).
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(06-30-2018 12:16 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  McCaw Article

This is an article quoting McCaw and others on the whole Baylor situation. The whole thing sounds so toxic and I don't want anything to do with anyone involved. But since McCaw defends Briles, it would appear that he would hire him again.
My question after reading the newspaper account is simple. If JFJr knew about this, from McCaw's position, did he feel McCaw had a better up side than baggage to drag himself down and the athletics of LU down.

I get the second chance answer. The bigger picture is where is the upside of McCaw? We see now the downside with the Baylor program he left, either rightly or wrongly accused. Usually in these types of events neither party is completely right and neither is completely at fault. The truth lies somewhere between what the parties are charging and claiming. But this is a mess. Something LU should not have to shoulder as this time. It's self inflicted.
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(06-30-2018 05:16 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(06-30-2018 12:16 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  McCaw Article

This is an article quoting McCaw and others on the whole Baylor situation. The whole thing sounds so toxic and I don't want anything to do with anyone involved. But since McCaw defends Briles, it would appear that he would hire him again.
My question after reading the newspaper account is simple. If JFJr knew about this, from McCaw's position, did he feel McCaw had a better up side than baggage to drag himself down and the athletics of LU down.

I get the second chance answer. The bigger picture is where is the upside of McCaw? We see now the downside with the Baylor program he left, either rightly or wrongly accused. Usually in these types of events neither party is completely right and neither is completely at fault. The truth lies somewhere between what the parties are charging and claiming. But this is a mess. Something LU should not have to shoulder as this time. It's self inflicted.

Obviously the upside was the reason. Ian is a genius when it comes to being an athletic director. I think he was a bigger part of the Baylor situation than he makes himself out to be. They brought him in to move to FBS and to get all sports moving in the right direction. He is one of the best ADs out there but he is definitely a questionable character.
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If McCaw doesn’t work out, there is always Tom Jurich. He was one of the best ADs around.03-lmfao
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(06-30-2018 09:22 PM)army56mike Wrote:  If McCaw doesn’t work out, there is always Tom Jurich. He was one of the best ADs around.03-lmfao

He was a scumbag but definitely did what it took to win lol.
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