Mark Schlabach @Mark_Schlabach

Pretty damning allegations in former Baylor volleyball player's Title IX lawsuit against university


https://twitter.com/mark_schlabach/statu...0652682241

Someone please post the pick on this link

(05-17-2017 12:09 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Mark Schlabach @Mark_Schlabach

Pretty damning allegations in former Baylor volleyball player's Title IX lawsuit against university


https://twitter.com/mark_schlabach/statu...0652682241

Someone please post the pick on this link

If they don't, they owe SMU an apology. This is an issue of institutional control.

Agreed, Baylor was/is way out of control and it has been going on for years...remember their basketball program covered up a murder.

(05-17-2017 12:09 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Mark Schlabach @Mark_Schlabach

Pretty damning allegations in former Baylor volleyball player's Title IX lawsuit against university


https://twitter.com/mark_schlabach/statu...0652682241

Someone please post the pick on this link

Thanks Alltide

(05-17-2017 01:30 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Thanks Alltide

The Big 12 has the best and worst in coaching. Briles is a low life scum bucket and Snyder is the kind of guy you want teaching your son. Somebody had better get Snyder to donate dna because that kind of coach is the vast exception these days. Those who practice expediency to riches are not.

(05-17-2017 02:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 01:30 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Thanks Alltide

The Big 12 has the best and worst in coaching. Briles is a low life scum bucket and Snyder is the kind of guy you want teaching your son. Somebody had better get Snyder to donate dna because that kind of coach is the vast exception these days. Those who practice expediency to riches are not.

Let's not forget Kingsbury doesn't like shaking hands after games

The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

(05-17-2017 03:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

(05-17-2017 03:50 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

(05-17-2017 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:50 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

(05-17-2017 04:29 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:50 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

The FEDS can all but end Baylor Athletics. The NCAA can hammer them as the cover up goes directly to the administration. This will never have to come to a Big 12 vote. No Baylor football=diminished value for the networks=end of the contract=end of the reason for a GOR. But, only if ESPN and FOX agree.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the contract is self voiding if there are less than 10 members. So no vote needed there either.

(05-17-2017 04:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:29 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:50 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Big 12 must expel Baylor.

That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

The FEDS can all but end Baylor Athletics. The NCAA can hammer them as the cover up goes directly to the administration. This will never have to come to a Big 12 vote. No Baylor football=diminished value for the networks=end of the contract=end of the reason for a GOR. But, only if ESPN and FOX agree.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the contract is self voiding if there are less than 10 members. So no vote needed there either.

If Baylor is out of the picture then the networks should agree as long as they can divide up the properties. I wouldn't think they'd be interested in adding another school to the mess. The opportunity should be too good to pass up.

Perhaps this...

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, and West Virginia to the SEC

TCU and Texas Tech to the PAC

Kansas and UConn to the B1G

Texas and Notre Dame to the ACC

(05-17-2017 10:07 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:29 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:50 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  That's what Houston BYU and UConn fans are praying for.

And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

The FEDS can all but end Baylor Athletics. The NCAA can hammer them as the cover up goes directly to the administration. This will never have to come to a Big 12 vote. No Baylor football=diminished value for the networks=end of the contract=end of the reason for a GOR. But, only if ESPN and FOX agree.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the contract is self voiding if there are less than 10 members. So no vote needed there either.

If Baylor is out of the picture then the networks should agree as long as they can divide up the properties. I wouldn't think they'd be interested in adding another school to the mess. The opportunity should be too good to pass up.

Perhaps this...

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, and West Virginia to the SEC

TCU and Texas Tech to the PAC

Kansas and UConn to the B1G

Texas and Notre Dame to the ACC

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State to the PAC

Kansas and Iowa State to the Big 10

West Virginia and Cincinnati to the ACC with N.D. keeping independence.

(05-17-2017 10:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:07 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:29 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 03:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And to no avail. Diminished value for the T1 & T2 contracts (split by ESPN & FOX) likely contain a clause permitting the termination of the contract upon diminished value. These are fairly standard in these types of contracts. If FOX and ESPN could cooperate on splitting the product equitably they could be very instrumental in ending this now. Otherwise there is no incentive in adding anyone. The NCAA lets a conference continue play for up to two years before they are required to get back to the minimum of 8 schools. The Big 12 is safe from that. If the networks could not agree the worst that would happen is that the other 9 schools all get an equal part of the 10th share. Either way it is not in their self interest to add.

And if they did go their separate ways and any school was left out of the P4 then that school would likely receive everyone else's departure fees. And for a school likely to have been left behind in 2024-5 anyway that's a huge windfall they wouldn't get otherwise.

Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

The FEDS can all but end Baylor Athletics. The NCAA can hammer them as the cover up goes directly to the administration. This will never have to come to a Big 12 vote. No Baylor football=diminished value for the networks=end of the contract=end of the reason for a GOR. But, only if ESPN and FOX agree.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the contract is self voiding if there are less than 10 members. So no vote needed there either.

If Baylor is out of the picture then the networks should agree as long as they can divide up the properties. I wouldn't think they'd be interested in adding another school to the mess. The opportunity should be too good to pass up.

Perhaps this...

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, and West Virginia to the SEC

TCU and Texas Tech to the PAC

Kansas and UConn to the B1G

Texas and Notre Dame to the ACC

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State to the PAC

Kansas and Iowa State to the Big 10

West Virginia and Cincinnati to the ACC with N.D. keeping independence.

Let's do this in steps...
1. Baylor kicked out. GOR voided.
2. WVU to ACC to boost future Network
3. OU to SEC
4. Texas to SEC. remaining six schools look for homes
5. Mizzou gathers votes for Kansas to enter SEC.
6. Remaining B12 schools land in either AAC or MWC
7. NC State fills 18th spot in SEC

(05-17-2017 11:40 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:07 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 04:29 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Would require 7 votes to kick Baylor out. Either find seven homes or networks agree to replace Baylor and still honor contract or renegotiate another one.

The FEDS can all but end Baylor Athletics. The NCAA can hammer them as the cover up goes directly to the administration. This will never have to come to a Big 12 vote. No Baylor football=diminished value for the networks=end of the contract=end of the reason for a GOR. But, only if ESPN and FOX agree.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the contract is self voiding if there are less than 10 members. So no vote needed there either.

If Baylor is out of the picture then the networks should agree as long as they can divide up the properties. I wouldn't think they'd be interested in adding another school to the mess. The opportunity should be too good to pass up.

Perhaps this...

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati, and West Virginia to the SEC

TCU and Texas Tech to the PAC

Kansas and UConn to the B1G

Texas and Notre Dame to the ACC

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State to the PAC

Kansas and Iowa State to the Big 10

West Virginia and Cincinnati to the ACC with N.D. keeping independence.

Let's do this in steps...
1. Baylor kicked out. GOR voided.
2. WVU to ACC to boost future Network
3. OU to SEC
4. Texas to SEC. remaining six schools look for homes
5. Mizzou gathers votes for Kansas to enter SEC.
6. Remaining B12 schools land in either AAC or MWC
7. NC State fills 18th spot in SEC

I like your thinking on that!

If ESPN & Fox will have to agree to void the contract then they both will have to get something that they want. I think it's evident that Fox & the PAC want Texas. ESPN could concede Texas but retain their current rights to the B1G, PAC & the LHN. Perhaps pick up the rights to air otherwise unaired Longhorns road games on the LHN (Texas @ Oregon State for example).

Texas, TT, Kansas State & Iowa State to the PAC.

Oklahoma & Oklahoma State to the SEC.

Kansas & UConn to the B1G.

WV & TCU to the ACC for 16 or ND & Cincinnati/Houston for18.

Or....

SEC adds Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

ACC adds Notre Dame and Cincinnati

PAC adds Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

B1G adds Kansas and UConn

That's 7.

Or...

SEC adds Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, and West Virginia

ACC adds Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Texas, and UConn

PAC adds Texas Tech, Houston, Kansas, and Iowa State

B1G stands pat because their options don't pay for themselves.

The Big 12 should kick out Baylor and invite Cincinnati, Houston, and New Mexico

(05-18-2017 01:13 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  The Big 12 should kick out Baylor and invite Cincinnati, Houston, and New Mexico

They should replace Baylor with New Mexico until the end of the current GOR. Then go from there.