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Baylor in serious jeopardy-horrible allegations, again
A former Baylor volleyball player alleges she was sexually assaulted by 8 Baylor football players. Allegations are that someone in the Baylor football program referred to it as a "bonding experience" for the players. How does Baylor make it in the Big 12 or even as a football program with all these awful things happening?
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http://www.wfaa.com/sports/lawsuit-baylo.../440463956


Another civil lawsuit was filed against Baylor Tuesday by a former volleyball player, who claims she was the victim of a brutal gang rape that the University failed to address.

The victim said she was raped by as many as eight Baylor football players on Feb. 11, 2012. That was approximately a month before two more female Baylor students were allegedly gang raped by football players, as has previously been reported.

According to the new lawsuit, the plaintiff was repeatedly harassed by football players as late as May 2013. In July, her mother met with an assistant football coach at a Waco restaurant, where the mother provided a list of players allegedly involved in the gang rape, according to the lawsuit.

Two months later, the University broke ground on McLane Stadium. As the stadium was being constructed, the plaintiff was harassed, forced to have class with two of her assailants, and two Baylor football players burglarized her apartment, the lawsuit said. The burglary was in April 2013, according to the plaintiff. That same month, a member of the Baylor Bruins hostess program was brutally gang raped by Baylor football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal "Myke" Chatman, according to the court filing.
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(05-17-2017 11:42 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Link:

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/lawsuit-baylo.../440463956


Another civil lawsuit was filed against Baylor Tuesday by a former volleyball player, who claims she was the victim of a brutal gang rape that the University failed to address.

The victim said she was raped by as many as eight Baylor football players on Feb. 11, 2012. That was approximately a month before two more female Baylor students were allegedly gang raped by football players, as has previously been reported.

According to the new lawsuit, the plaintiff was repeatedly harassed by football players as late as May 2013. In July, her mother met with an assistant football coach at a Waco restaurant, where the mother provided a list of players allegedly involved in the gang rape, according to the lawsuit.

Two months later, the University broke ground on McLane Stadium. As the stadium was being constructed, the plaintiff was harassed, forced to have class with two of her assailants, and two Baylor football players burglarized her apartment, the lawsuit said. The burglary was in April 2013, according to the plaintiff. That same month, a member of the Baylor Bruins hostess program was brutally gang raped by Baylor football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal "Myke" Chatman, according to the court filing.

If all this is true (I'll let the courts decide that...) I don't see how the NCAA can do anything but kill the program, perhaps the entire athletic department. I don't think they'd want to look weak on this considering many thought that's exactly what happened with PSU.

Even if the NCAA doesn't take action, does the Big XII want that albatross hanging around their neck with everything else that's going on with that conference?

If they do kick Baylor out, could that be the opening OU and TX need to look elsewhere before the GOR runs out?
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(05-17-2017 11:56 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:42 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Link:

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/lawsuit-baylo.../440463956


Another civil lawsuit was filed against Baylor Tuesday by a former volleyball player, who claims she was the victim of a brutal gang rape that the University failed to address.

The victim said she was raped by as many as eight Baylor football players on Feb. 11, 2012. That was approximately a month before two more female Baylor students were allegedly gang raped by football players, as has previously been reported.

According to the new lawsuit, the plaintiff was repeatedly harassed by football players as late as May 2013. In July, her mother met with an assistant football coach at a Waco restaurant, where the mother provided a list of players allegedly involved in the gang rape, according to the lawsuit.

Two months later, the University broke ground on McLane Stadium. As the stadium was being constructed, the plaintiff was harassed, forced to have class with two of her assailants, and two Baylor football players burglarized her apartment, the lawsuit said. The burglary was in April 2013, according to the plaintiff. That same month, a member of the Baylor Bruins hostess program was brutally gang raped by Baylor football players Tre'Von Armstead and Shamycheal "Myke" Chatman, according to the court filing.

If all this is true (I'll let the courts decide that...) I don't see how the NCAA can do anything but kill the program, perhaps the entire athletic department. I don't think they'd want to look weak on this considering many thought that's exactly what happened with PSU.

Even if the NCAA doesn't take action, does the Big XII want that albatross hanging around their neck with everything else that's going on with that conference?

If they do kick Baylor out, could that be the opening OU and TX need to look elsewhere before the GOR runs out?

Yeah, kicking Baylor may end the Big 12 or it could help save it. If the NCAA is looking at giving the Baylor the death penalty, wouldn't be wise for the Big 12 to cut ties with Baylor before that?
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http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...ix-lawsuit

Federal Title IX Lawsuit against the University. Never a good thing. This might draw the death penalty. Baylor was an institution out of control.
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Sick puppies ! Hope those thugs get a lot of jail time
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Eh...

Baylor's in the clear. Under the previous Administration they were squirming... A number of people had Baylor in their sights because (1) Baylor is a conservative, Southern Baptist school, (2) Baylor's former President was Ken Starr, who had investigated the Clintons, and (3) because so little happened to Penn State and people wanted to make an example of Baylor.

But that was then, and this is now. You have a "Secretary of Education" who loves conservative, private schools and who is regressive to the extreme. So the Department of Education isn't going to pursue "Clery Act" violations against Baylor, so their access to Federally Guaranteed Student Loans isn't in jeopardy. Can you really see the Government taking any interest in a "Title IX" violation?

Hell, Baylor's got nothing to worry about.
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If it wasn't for the fact that Liberty has a pass from Trump, they'd be in trouble as well, since McCaw knew about this as well...


McCaw, athletics director at the time, also did not report the incident to police or Baylor's judicial affairs office, which was responsible for investigating such incidents.
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(05-17-2017 11:56 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  If all this is true... I don't see how the NCAA can do anything but kill the program, perhaps the entire athletic department.

Agreed. This is horrible and should NOT be tolerated.

(05-17-2017 11:56 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Even if the NCAA doesn't take action, does the Big XII... kick Baylor out, could that be the opening OU and TX need to look elsewhere before the GOR runs out?

Not necessarily. See below.

(05-17-2017 12:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Yeah, kicking Baylor may end the Big 12 or it could help save it. If the NCAA is looking at giving the Baylor the death penalty, wouldn't be wise for the Big 12 to cut ties with Baylor before that?

If the Big XII does the smart thing are replaces a Texas-based school with one NOT in Texas (like, say, BYU?) it could result in a much stronger Big XII.
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NCAA needs to do the right thing here and give them the death penalty. And any admins or coaches who knowingly failed to report this stuff to the authorities deserves to rot in jail.

(05-17-2017 12:28 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If the Big XII does the smart thing are replaces a Texas-based school with one NOT in Texas (like, say, BYU?) it could result in a much stronger Big XII.

Could also be their chance to give WVU a life raft of a travel partner (Memphis or Cincy) without adding another mouth to feed.
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What else can happen there? If memory serves me correct this is the same school that a basketball player got murdered and other incidents. This school needs to drop down to D2 and get priorities in order.


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(05-17-2017 12:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Eh...

Baylor's in the clear. Under the previous Administration they were squirming... A number of people had Baylor in their sights because (1) Baylor is a conservative, Southern Baptist school, (2) Baylor's former President was Ken Starr, who had investigated the Clintons, and (3) because so little happened to Penn State and people wanted to make an example of Baylor.

But that was then, and this is now. You have a "Secretary of Education" who loves conservative, private schools and who is regressive to the extreme. So the Department of Education isn't going to pursue "Clery Act" violations against Baylor, so their access to Federally Guaranteed Student Loans isn't in jeopardy. Can you really see the Government taking any interest in a "Title IX" violation?

Hell, Baylor's got nothing to worry about.

They'll probably lose 4-5 scholarships and have a bowl ban for about 2-3 years.
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I don't think that the NCAA has enough political cover to give a death sentence if it wanted to, and that's sad.

Killing SMU (small private school) for rampant cheating, slapping PSU (massive public school) on the wrist for systematically looking the other way w/ regards to child ****, and then killing Baylor (small private school) for **** screams "corruption." That belief that the NCAA has been so mismanaged in the past that it can't punish a school for allowing ****s today is sad.
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Beyond athletics, I don't know how any decent parent could even contemplate sending their daughter to Baylor anymore. And yet their enrollment is at record levels.

Just sad
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(05-17-2017 12:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Yeah, kicking Baylor may end the Big 12 or it could help save it. If the NCAA is looking at giving the Baylor the death penalty, wouldn't be wise for the Big 12 to cut ties with Baylor before that?

If the Big XII does the smart thing are replaces a Texas-based school with one NOT in Texas (like, say, BYU?) it could result in a much stronger Big XII.
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That's certainly a possibility. The next question is would someone like BYU get enough votes to be admitted to the conference vs. OK, TX, & WVU seeing it as the ticket to greener pastures, potentially KU as well.

We know that if they were to become "available" they'd have multiple suitors
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Sickening. Absolutely sickening.
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I can see Texas striking a deal w/ Houston to use its leverage in the conference to make a Baylor-Houston trade.

Texas could probably control Houston easier, and they'd probably get concessions from Houston/the state to make that happen. UH also probably has a higher ceiling, so the conference might go along.
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(05-17-2017 12:28 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-17-2017 11:56 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  If all this is true... I don't see how the NCAA can do anything but kill the program, perhaps the entire athletic department.

Agreed. This is horrible and should NOT be tolerated.

(05-17-2017 11:56 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Even if the NCAA doesn't take action, does the Big XII... kick Baylor out, could that be the opening OU and TX need to look elsewhere before the GOR runs out?

Not necessarily. See below.

(05-17-2017 12:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Yeah, kicking Baylor may end the Big 12 or it could help save it. If the NCAA is looking at giving the Baylor the death penalty, wouldn't be wise for the Big 12 to cut ties with Baylor before that?

If the Big XII does the smart thing are replaces a Texas-based school with one NOT in Texas (like, say, BYU?) it could result in a much stronger Big XII.

Yep. I think the big 12 could go east or west and snag any G5 they wanted. They'll probably pass on another Texas school IMHO based on hearing so many non-Texas Big 12 schools reaction to Houston being considered last summer. But either way, a conference that already has bad PR is getting hurt worse by this Baylor situation.
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(05-17-2017 12:54 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Beyond athletics, I don't know how any decent parent could even contemplate sending their daughter to Baylor anymore. And yet their enrollment is at record levels.

Just sad


Or to Liberty if you had a female student athlete as your daughter.
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(05-17-2017 12:58 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  I can see Texas striking a deal w/ Houston to use its leverage in the conference to make a Baylor-Houston trade.

Texas could probably control Houston easier, and they'd probably get concessions from Houston/the state to make that happen. UH also probably has a higher ceiling, so the conference might go along.

Which is what should have happened originally
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