(05-14-2017 04:46 PM)Wedge Wrote: (05-14-2017 10:34 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote: what did all the players that were not drafted and that were not signed as free agents outside the draft get for their skills?
oh they got exactly what he market said their football skills were worth and that was ZERO
you seem to believe that the vast majority of D1-A players or even D1-AA players get drafted to the pros or ever spend a day in the pros much less the reality that the VAST majority never spend a day in the pros
Your comment is based on the assumption that if college athletes could be paid, all of them would be paid the same amount. That's how it is now (i.e., none of them are paid at all, at least legally), but there's no reason it has to be that way.
The most valuable athletes, or those most in demand, could and should be paid more. The compensation for Myles Garrett or Leonard Fournette doesn't have to be the same as that of every other player in FBS. The most sought-after players drive the W-L records, the titles, the attendance, the media money, all of that. Schools don't pay every coach, or every athletic director, or every university president, the same amount of money, and there's no reason to pay every athlete the same amount, either.
and your assumption is that when it is all said and done and you are paying those very few players "what they are worth" (after years of a massive investment in time and effort into their coaching and training) that there will be enough money to pay players like khalid hill that have a market value of ZERO to the pros
because the reality is whether they have any use for it or not they are getting about $100,000 to $200,000 (possibly higher at MU) in tuition, housing. food, clothing and the like for playing and that is probably not totally counting the cost of coaches and trainers and facilities to coach and train them
and I am sure your argument will be "well then some programs can break off and go semi-pro" or "well them some players might not get to play college ball"
and the results of that (which I would not mind at all) would be a "league" of about 10 schools all beating up on each others and massive fan disinterest until it all fell apart and about 90% of the football athletes on college campuses would never set foot on a college campus and they would never come close to sniffing a college degree
but hey "major win" because a few knuckleheads that have no business con a college campus are now getting paid a lot of money to waste space on that campus until it all falls apart in a few years
plus if you are going to demand that the college level be a semi pro league then surely you are in favor of semi pro players paying their "teams" as they exit to move up to the big leagues and the result of that will be a lot of players cutting million dollar plus checks and that is one less million they have of a very short pro career to blow before they end up out of the pros and massively in debt and with little skills and no education of meaning
I would much prefer that these athlete athletes sue the NFL and the NBA for the right to take their ignorance and stupidity and their lack of use for a college degree directly to the pros and then they no longer infest the college game and drive up the cost of the college game for those that actually place a value on the education, housing, food, clothing and training that they get for free in exchange for playing a sport that they have no real pro value after college
or better yet we can simply start requiring all paid players to pay full tuition, books, food, housing and even training facilities fees and they can also pay "players taxes" in the cities and towns they play in and when 99% of then have someone that can do math explain the math to them they will realize they are going to get paid perhaps $45,000 in real dollars and they are going to owe $125,000 in tuition, taxes, training cost, food, clothing and housing
then of course those same morons and their idiotic advocates will be crying that "youth" no longer have access to a college education because they have been priced out of the ability to pay to play.....then we ca point to the few fools making a lot more money and say "take it up with them" or "ask your homie for a loan" and laugh at their financial and economic ignorance and then tell them to make it a double and hurry up the line at the drive thru is backing up
there was a comment on the A&M fan forum about dopie noil not getting taken by Green Bay and not making the free agent list and they said that 1/3 of the players that leave school early do not end up drafted
so they go from free food, tuition, housing, clothing, training ect worth about $200,000+ a year at an SEC SEC SEC type program to NOTHING and they have no degree as well......why would anyone want to pay these people to litter a college campus in the first place whe they belong in Arena ball or somewhere like that where they can play football and be stupid and it will not come at the expense of other college students on campus to actually PAY to get a degree