(06-22-2017 12:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's a better point 2buck and I agree. a convicted criminal still should pursue education if they're not in prison. heck even if they are in prison.

Now it's a question of, are they a registered sex offender, a murderer, assaulter, etc.... or did they steal someone's iphone once or got a DUI. It really depends on what it is.

That's what online education is for.

(06-22-2017 03:15 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's a better point 2buck and I agree. a convicted criminal still should pursue education if they're not in prison. heck even if they are in prison.

Now it's a question of, are they a registered sex offender, a murderer, assaulter, etc.... or did they steal someone's iphone once or got a DUI. It really depends on what it is.

That's what online education is for.

You make it sound like you market to no other students other than criminals to take LU online classes. I wonder what the average GPA is coming out of HS. Hmmmm.

(06-22-2017 09:21 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Hey, why not? Felons deserve an education too.

Louisiana Is First State To Ban Public Colleges From Asking About Criminal History

I consider myself pretty politically progressive, but I can't reconcile the fact that colleges are using social media accounts as part of the admissions process (and in some cases rescinding offers), but somehow criminal history is off limits. Being offensive online is weighted heavier than actual criminal activity.

(06-23-2017 12:35 AM)jmu97 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 09:21 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Hey, why not? Felons deserve an education too.

Louisiana Is First State To Ban Public Colleges From Asking About Criminal History

I consider myself pretty politically progressive, but I can't reconcile the fact that colleges are using social media accounts as part of the admissions process (and in some cases rescinding offers), but somehow criminal history is off limits. Being offensive online is weighted heavier than actual criminal activity.

How did you come to the conclusion criminal history is "off limits" in the JMU admissions decision process? All students are asked to list any criminal history on the written application. It's been that way for years and years.

(06-23-2017 08:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:35 AM)jmu97 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 09:21 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Hey, why not? Felons deserve an education too.

Louisiana Is First State To Ban Public Colleges From Asking About Criminal History

I consider myself pretty politically progressive, but I can't reconcile the fact that colleges are using social media accounts as part of the admissions process (and in some cases rescinding offers), but somehow criminal history is off limits. Being offensive online is weighted heavier than actual criminal activity.

How did you come to the conclusion criminal history is "off limits" in the JMU admissions decision process? All students are asked to list any criminal history on the written application. It's been that way for years and years.

I suppose the point is that people do discriminate based on criminal history, even for smaller offenses. Employers will be weary to call an applicant in for an interview if they list anything. They almost expect it to be empty.

With that being said, it is necessary to screen certain types of crimes and make sure those persons aren't anywhere near your campus if you don't want your reputation to go downhill quickly.

(06-23-2017 08:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:35 AM)jmu97 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 09:21 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Hey, why not? Felons deserve an education too.

Louisiana Is First State To Ban Public Colleges From Asking About Criminal History

I consider myself pretty politically progressive, but I can't reconcile the fact that colleges are using social media accounts as part of the admissions process (and in some cases rescinding offers), but somehow criminal history is off limits. Being offensive online is weighted heavier than actual criminal activity.

How did you come to the conclusion criminal history is "off limits" in the JMU admissions decision process? All students are asked to list any criminal history on the written application. It's been that way for years and years.

I wasn't referring to JMU, but rather the trend mentioned in the article.

Here's the alternative perspective. http://www.communityalternatives.org/pdf...ssions.pdf

The idea of pushing the notification of conviction to after a conditional offer of admission seems to have some merit to me. It pushes the school towards deciding that maybe a student's otherwise excellent portfolio, that merited an acceptance offer, counterbalances whatever the crime was.

(06-23-2017 08:39 AM)olddawg Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 08:10 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:35 AM)jmu97 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 09:21 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Hey, why not? Felons deserve an education too.

Louisiana Is First State To Ban Public Colleges From Asking About Criminal History

I consider myself pretty politically progressive, but I can't reconcile the fact that colleges are using social media accounts as part of the admissions process (and in some cases rescinding offers), but somehow criminal history is off limits. Being offensive online is weighted heavier than actual criminal activity.

How did you come to the conclusion criminal history is "off limits" in the JMU admissions decision process? All students are asked to list any criminal history on the written application. It's been that way for years and years.

Love it. Another favorite...

(06-22-2017 04:42 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:15 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's a better point 2buck and I agree. a convicted criminal still should pursue education if they're not in prison. heck even if they are in prison.

Now it's a question of, are they a registered sex offender, a murderer, assaulter, etc.... or did they steal someone's iphone once or got a DUI. It really depends on what it is.

That's what online education is for.

You make it sound like you market to no other students other than criminals to take LU online classes. I wonder what the average GPA is coming out of HS. Hmmmm.

More so the idea that sex offenders and the like should do online...not on campus.

(06-23-2017 05:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 04:42 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:15 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's a better point 2buck and I agree. a convicted criminal still should pursue education if they're not in prison. heck even if they are in prison.

Now it's a question of, are they a registered sex offender, a murderer, assaulter, etc.... or did they steal someone's iphone once or got a DUI. It really depends on what it is.

That's what online education is for.

You make it sound like you market to no other students other than criminals to take LU online classes. I wonder what the average GPA is coming out of HS. Hmmmm.

More so the idea that sex offenders and the like should do online...not on campus.

Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing something about that policy on Liberty's website...

(06-23-2017 09:54 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 05:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 04:42 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:15 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  That's a better point 2buck and I agree. a convicted criminal still should pursue education if they're not in prison. heck even if they are in prison.

Now it's a question of, are they a registered sex offender, a murderer, assaulter, etc.... or did they steal someone's iphone once or got a DUI. It really depends on what it is.

That's what online education is for.

You make it sound like you market to no other students other than criminals to take LU online classes. I wonder what the average GPA is coming out of HS. Hmmmm.

More so the idea that sex offenders and the like should do online...not on campus.

Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing something about that policy on Liberty's website...

Now that right there is funny.

(06-24-2017 01:39 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 09:54 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 05:21 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 04:42 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:15 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  That's what online education is for.

You make it sound like you market to no other students other than criminals to take LU online classes. I wonder what the average GPA is coming out of HS. Hmmmm.

More so the idea that sex offenders and the like should do online...not on campus.

Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing something about that policy on Liberty's website...

Now that right there is funny.

That is funny, and someone has way to much free time.

I'm disappointed that so many JMU fans are so obsessed with their hatred of LU. Speaks volumes about some on here.

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Liberty's existence doesn't bother me in the least. It's not my school. I have other fish to fry. Frankly, all the protesting and people being offended is getting real tiresome.

(06-24-2017 03:24 PM)olderduke Wrote:  I'm disappointed that so many JMU fans are so obsessed with their hatred of LU. Speaks volumes about some on here.

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I hope you aren't referencing me, this was lighthearted fun and anyone who takes it serious needs to have a beer or a cup of coffee with me. The most important factor was that we totally played off of the words from a LU fan. I see little difference in this and my making fun of Alger wearing a cowboy hat. Even the greatest admin apologizers haven't defended that one. By the way, though not a LU fan at all, I do enjoy the word of God presented though Jonathan Falwell.

(06-24-2017 03:24 PM)olderduke Wrote:  I'm disappointed that so many JMU fans are so obsessed with their hatred of LU. Speaks volumes about some on here.

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C'mon dude, this was done without malice. I could have totally spewed venom if I really hated them. I wouldn't condemn a university and their students for the shortcomings of their leadership.

Take JMU for example, I don't take potshots at everyone who has attended or worked under Alger. Only the mini Sean Spicers on here constantly falling on their swords defending him. Which is actually quite comical at times.

People getting offended by comments from others who are "offended" by liberty is hilarious irony.

(06-25-2017 07:12 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  People getting offended by comments from others who are "offended" by liberty is hilarious irony.

Offense and diappointment are not the same. And Bleeding, I wasn't referring to you.

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(06-24-2017 03:24 PM)olderduke Wrote:  I'm disappointed that so many JMU fans are so obsessed with their hatred of LU. Speaks volumes about some on here.

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I am an atheist, open minded and I don't care if men jump in the sack with men. Yet, I let LU go about their ways.

Liberty has a right to believe whatever they want to believe.