(05-14-2017 04:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Why is this any different than any particular conservative rally refusing/canceling a progressive speaker, for the same stated reason??

The TSU students didn't want to hear what he had to say. So what?

Just like, people attending a conservative rally don't want to hear what a progressive speak would have to say. Again, so what??

College/university commencement ceremony =/= political rally. That's the difference. And colleges/universities do not serve the same purpose as a political party. That's the difference, too.

Or at least, those used to be the differences. Maybe we're moving into a new era, in which campuses will be officially aligned with one partisan/ideological faction. That would certainly explain the kind of behavior we've recently seen at TSU and other universities. It would also explain the mindset that causes someone to ask the question you raised.

TSU's only values are racially excused underachieving and embezzlement.

I don't see why he would have wanted to speak there anyways, or why anybody is surprised they don't want him there.

(05-14-2017 07:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  TSU's only values are racially excused underachieving and embezzlement.

I don't see why he would have wanted to speak there anyways, or why anybody is surprised they don't want him there.

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(05-14-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The next time that happens will be the first.

Doesn't mean a conservative rally would not be allowed to cancel a speaker than the attendees didn't want to hear.

Non-issue

(05-14-2017 07:17 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  College/university commencement ceremony =/= political rally. That's the difference. And colleges/universities do not serve the same purpose as a political party. That's the difference, too.

But why do these superfluous differences mean it's not allowed for them to cancel a speaker, if the students don't want to hear him/her?

(05-14-2017 04:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Why is this any different than any particular conservative rally refusing/canceling a progressive speaker, for the same stated reason??

The TSU students didn't want to hear what he had to say. So what?

Just like, people attending a conservative rally don't want to hear what a progressive speak would have to say. Again, so what??

So don't attend is so what. Perhaps there were some who wanted to either hear his views because they support them or because they appreciate a diversity of thought? Or not. Either way, don't like it? Don't go.

But that's not enough for the loons on the left. If they don't like it, if they don't want it, then it stands to reason in their own small minds that no one else will either so shut it down by shouting it down.

(05-14-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 04:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Why is this any different than any particular conservative rally refusing/canceling a progressive speaker, for the same stated reason??

The next time that happens will be the first.

There is that...

By not wanting to hear a conservative speaker, liberal students have little to no exposure to counter-arguments and really have no idea what people who disagree with them are thinking.

This hurts......................... only liberals.

Sure, spin it that way if it makes you feel better.

It's a one off event, a celebration of graduation. The time and place for counter-arguments is during the semester.

Let the students choose who they want to hear at commencement and that's that.


Again -- non-issue.

(05-15-2017 11:16 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Again -- non-issue.

Non-issue? Isolated pockets of small groups such as liberal higher education administrators policing the ideas and language views to appeal to only certain pre-determined biases is exactly why liberals are in such disarray.

How can you not see this? Worse, how can you support this?

America has thoroughly rejected liberals in every branch of the federal government and in a majority of States..... so I'd say a rejection of other points of views has been a major issue for liberals.

But by all means, continue. Please.

The Great Free Speech War of 2017, ladies and gentlemen.

(05-15-2017 11:29 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  how can you support this?

Because it's only a one-off event, a celebration of graduation. Of course, students should get to hear speakers that they want to hear.

The time for being challenged is during the semester.

(05-15-2017 11:29 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  America has thoroughly rejected liberals in every branch of the federal government and in a majority of States

As you know, every Democrat and Republican elected to state and federal leadership falls along a complex, multi-dimension spectrum of conservative and progressive views over hundreds of different issues.

Well another point is that inauguration talks are minimally political in the first place, but they still don't want to hear him.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-outside...1494976808

TSU's explanation is that BLM and other Black militant groups were going to attend and cause trouble. He thought the students were mostly fine with Cornyn speaking. It was outsiders who were going to cause trouble and raise security concerns. TSU's graduation is in a public place.

That's a valid concern.

Sounds like he made the right decision.