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RE: Finebaum on XM radio today
(05-10-2017 03:38 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I think that the SEC should make an offer to both Oklahoma and Texas. But the SEC needs to put a fixed date on their answer. If they refuse. Move on to Kansas and either TCU or Iowa state.

You can quit dreaming about Texas, they are too good for the SEC.
I would look for the Longhorns to be adding Lacrosse and Field Hockey soon.
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(05-11-2017 05:01 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 03:38 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I think that the SEC should make an offer to both Oklahoma and Texas. But the SEC needs to put a fixed date on their answer. If they refuse. Move on to Kansas and either TCU or Iowa state.

You can quit dreaming about Texas, they are too good for the SEC.
I would look for the Longhorns to be adding Lacrosse and Field Hockey soon.

I agree. Wasn't really "dreaming" about them.
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(05-10-2017 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well alrighty then! Now that #15 and #16 is decided who do you guys think we get for #17 & #18?

No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.
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(05-11-2017 06:15 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well alrighty then! Now that #15 and #16 is decided who do you guys think we get for #17 & #18?

No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.


In most 16 team scenarios with Alabama/Auburn moving East, the cross division rivalries go away. You play 7-2 and rotate everyone through either home or away in four years.

That's one reason for 15 and either divisionless or 3 divisions of 5. Play 4 in division/permanent rivals, rotate other 5 home and away and every 4 year player plays every team at home and in their stadium
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RE: Finebaum on XM radio today
(05-10-2017 01:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 01:27 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 12:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 12:48 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I thought about posting this yesterday, but I didn't have a link.

I was listening to Finebaum a little bit yesterday afternoon and he was talking about this with a caller. He said if he had to rank the leagues by which one Texas wanted to go to that he really didn't have any idea which one would be first. He went on to say that Texas needs to make up its mind.

UT is a little different than OU with regards to the SEC. They both have administrations that would favor a more academic move. (Why I don't know since grants and academics have nothing to do with sports affiliations.) The A.D. at OU might lean our way. The A.D. at Texas is undetermined. And both have BMD's who favor the SEC, it's just that Oklahoma probably has more.

Still if OU were to come to the SEC and Texas could wangle a deal to get Tech included where else can they go? A&M, Arkansas, L.S.U., Oklahoma, Missouri, possibly Oklahoma State, and Tech could all be right there for their alums dream schedule of home and homes. They would really have to cut their noses off to spite their faces to ignore that! But since it is Texas call the plastic surgeon and stockpile the bandages because they've done that before.

Perhaps Texas is happy running the Big 12 and being the only school with its own network. Profitability be damned. I suppose it strokes the ego pretty good. Maybe ESPN gave them the deal in an effort to control the situation, but got more than they bargained for.

Dealing with Texas scares me a little bit. I know they would be a boon to the bottom line, but what sort of nonsense are we going to have to deal with in exchange for that? They don't seem to appreciate equal partnership.

Look, I'll be the first to say that Texas is like the histrionic beauty queen of your high school. She's high maintenance, a pain in the rear narcissistic shrew, but being seen with her boosts your value immeasurably with the solid girls who were too sensible to date you before. Even the sensible girls like having what they think the beauty queen wants. In the end being seen with Texas earns you more and attracts other sensible schools. It's just at the reunions the histrionic X beauty queen is the one liable to show up and create an embarrassing scene for everyone there.

The good thing is that not too many pay attention to the tantrums because they have gotten habituated to having to hear them. They let her scream, cuss, and make unreasonable demands and then in the SEC we go on with business as usual.

If we ever get a divorce everyone else will understand and just say to us, "How did you put up with her that long?" So there's an upside. We are big and strong enough to handle it. And if it doesn't work out it won't surprise any of our friends or enemies and won't be held against us.

Four of her sensible girlfriends have already walked out on her, as they wanted a little of what the beauty queen has. lol.
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RE: Finebaum on XM radio today
(05-11-2017 07:43 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 06:15 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well alrighty then! Now that #15 and #16 is decided who do you guys think we get for #17 & #18?

No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.


In most 16 team scenarios with Alabama/Auburn moving East, the cross division rivalries go away. You play 7-2 and rotate everyone through either home or away in four years.

That's one reason for 15 and either divisionless or 3 divisions of 5. Play 4 in division/permanent rivals, rotate other 5 home and away and every 4 year player plays every team at home and in their stadium

18 works the same way as 15, it just provides a larger core of home & home's on an annual basis. 3 divisions breaks into better groupings than 2.
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(05-11-2017 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:43 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 06:15 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well alrighty then! Now that #15 and #16 is decided who do you guys think we get for #17 & #18?

No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.


In most 16 team scenarios with Alabama/Auburn moving East, the cross division rivalries go away. You play 7-2 and rotate everyone through either home or away in four years.

That's one reason for 15 and either divisionless or 3 divisions of 5. Play 4 in division/permanent rivals, rotate other 5 home and away and every 4 year player plays every team at home and in their stadium

18 works the same way as 15, it just provides a larger core of home & home's on an annual basis. 3 divisions breaks into better groupings than 2.

Nobody does 3 divisions for a reason. 16 is the magic number. Then we all have to find something else to talk about.
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RE: Finebaum on XM radio today
(05-11-2017 03:52 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:43 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 06:15 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 10:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well alrighty then! Now that #15 and #16 is decided who do you guys think we get for #17 & #18?

No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.


In most 16 team scenarios with Alabama/Auburn moving East, the cross division rivalries go away. You play 7-2 and rotate everyone through either home or away in four years.

That's one reason for 15 and either divisionless or 3 divisions of 5. Play 4 in division/permanent rivals, rotate other 5 home and away and every 4 year player plays every team at home and in their stadium

18 works the same way as 15, it just provides a larger core of home & home's on an annual basis. 3 divisions breaks into better groupings than 2.

Nobody does 3 divisions for a reason. 16 is the magic number. Then we all have to find something else to talk about.

There are many great reasons for 3 divisions and to say nobody does them is not a good reason against them either. Perhaps we will have a thread on why 3 divisions is a great idea monetarily and for reasons on multiple levels of the economic perspective. How quickly we dismiss Sives comments that when realignment happens again we could be looking at very, very large conferences. 18 might well be the first step in that direction.
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RE: Finebaum on XM radio today
(05-11-2017 04:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 03:52 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 02:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 07:43 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  
(05-11-2017 06:15 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  No one. 16 members is a balanced schedule. If the SEC adds a 9th game. Then an athlete could compete at every school in a 4 year period. That is very important. I just hope that OU gets Alabama as a cross rival.


In most 16 team scenarios with Alabama/Auburn moving East, the cross division rivalries go away. You play 7-2 and rotate everyone through either home or away in four years.

That's one reason for 15 and either divisionless or 3 divisions of 5. Play 4 in division/permanent rivals, rotate other 5 home and away and every 4 year player plays every team at home and in their stadium

18 works the same way as 15, it just provides a larger core of home & home's on an annual basis. 3 divisions breaks into better groupings than 2.

Nobody does 3 divisions for a reason. 16 is the magic number. Then we all have to find something else to talk about.

There are many great reasons for 3 divisions and to say nobody does them is not a good reason against them either. Perhaps we will have a thread on why 3 divisions is a great idea monetarily and for reasons on multiple levels of the economic perspective. How quickly we dismiss Sives comments that when realignment happens again we could be looking at very, very large conferences. 18 might well be the first step in that direction.

Three divisions enables a conference to have a playoff with itself. $$$$
Winners of each division play the highest ranked 2nd place finisher. Makes for a great 1st round. Money stays in the conference and the winners play for the championship (money also stays in the conference). $$$$$.
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