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I'm sure I missed this somewhere along the way so sorry for the repetition, but what ever happened to the permanent indoor football practice facility that Mike Houston negotiated into his contract extension? Did that go the way of the dodo bird when he left?
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(06-24-2020 06:52 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I'm sure I missed this somewhere along the way so sorry for the repetition, but what ever happened to the permanent indoor football practice facility that Mike Houston negotiated into his contract extension? Did that go the way of the dodo bird when he left?

A "permanent" facility was not what was negotiated. An indoor facility intended to be temporary is what was part of that deal, and it was built at Sentara park in summer 2018. Ideally we will have a permanent facility someday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsfs9tC0nY
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(06-25-2020 07:23 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 06:52 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I'm sure I missed this somewhere along the way so sorry for the repetition, but what ever happened to the permanent indoor football practice facility that Mike Houston negotiated into his contract extension? Did that go the way of the dodo bird when he left?

A "permanent" facility was not what was negotiated. An indoor facility intended to be temporary is what was part of that deal, and it was built at Sentara park in summer 2018. Ideally we will have a permanent facility someday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsfs9tC0nY

Not part of the negotiations yet discussed at the time was a permanent facility over old baseball field area and a two year time frame was mentioned. Sidelined for a few years is certainly understandable even without the pandemic. Dismissing the date of construction, do we know if this that was presented is still going to happen. I know people continue to advocate having the old Convo redone for this purpose, but it appeared the old baseball area was the final decision. Input please...
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I feel like there are a lot of questions right now for on campus facilities. What is the plan for dhub? Old convo? Old baseball stadiums? Very curious to see what (especially sports related) uses these areas have in the future. Personally I’d like to see dhub paved back over and used for parking/tailgating
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On a positive note the landscaping around the new Phillips Hall looks very nice.

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COB Learning Complex is named Hartman Hall!

The article doesn't mention a dollar figure for the gift, but on the COB 2020 page the complex is listed as a $10M gift.

https://www.jmu.edu/news/2020/10/16-hart...ding.shtml
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(10-16-2020 07:48 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  COB Learning Complex is named Hartman Hall!

The article doesn't mention a dollar figure for the gift, but on the COB 2020 page the complex is listed as a $10M gift.

https://www.jmu.edu/news/2020/10/16-hart...ding.shtml

Given the dust-up created by the Breeze article it’s worth noting that Hartman was Rector of the JMU BOV when Alger was hired. The concern about fundraising and academics at JMU under Alger’s leadership are misplaced.
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(06-25-2020 11:52 AM)For the Dukes Wrote:  I feel like there are a lot of questions right now for on campus facilities. What is the plan for dhub? Old convo? Old baseball stadiums? Very curious to see what (especially sports related) uses these areas have in the future. Personally I’d like to see dhub paved back over and used for parking/tailgating

JMU is presently dealing with a $30 million deficit created by the pandemic. All new (or future/planned) construction is on temporary hold. Old baseball fields and field houses, as well as a $1 million gift to build a new facility at Sentara Park, are postponed. DHub was always temporary, and it will eventually be decommissioned and removed.

If you’re interested, google the current JMU Masterplan. It’s online and has been available to the public for years.
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(10-16-2020 07:48 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  COB Learning Complex is named Hartman Hall!

The article doesn't mention a dollar figure for the gift, but on the COB 2020 page the complex is listed as a $10M gift.

https://www.jmu.edu/news/2020/10/16-hart...ding.shtml

Ah the Mennonite Millionaire Jim Hartman gets it done. Selling off Truck Enterprises Inc. must have brought him a nice pile of Benjamins
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any relation to our "Hart" on the board?

what an amazing, awesome, generous gift!
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(10-16-2020 08:27 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 11:52 AM)For the Dukes Wrote:  I feel like there are a lot of questions right now for on campus facilities. What is the plan for dhub? Old convo? Old baseball stadiums? Very curious to see what (especially sports related) uses these areas have in the future. Personally I’d like to see dhub paved back over and used for parking/tailgating

JMU is presently dealing with a $30 million deficit created by the pandemic. All new (or future/planned) construction is on temporary hold. Old baseball fields and field houses, as well as a $1 million gift to build a new facility at Sentara Park, are postponed. DHub was always temporary, and it will eventually be decommissioned and removed.

If you’re interested, google the current JMU Masterplan. It’s online and has been available to the public for years.

Definitely is unfortunate about the construction halt, but completely understandable. I was on campus this weekend for the first time in months and was able to see the near final version of the new convo - it very impressive in person, as is the new dukes/top dog!

As for the master plan, I asked those questions because I haven't seen any information in the 2017 master plan regarding those things and was curious what others thought might happen with those, specifically the old convo.
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Wasn't sure what thread to post this in... but the Videoboard at BFS is being replaced. Hard to believe the 10-year warranty is up this summer. Like... staggering.

https://jmusports.com/news/2021/6/23/adm...-park.aspx
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(06-23-2021 11:17 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Wasn't sure what thread to post this in... but the Videoboard at BFS is being replaced. Hard to believe the 10-year warranty is up this summer. Like... staggering.

https://jmusports.com/news/2021/6/23/adm...-park.aspx

FML I'm old....
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(06-23-2021 11:28 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 11:17 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Wasn't sure what thread to post this in... but the Videoboard at BFS is being replaced. Hard to believe the 10-year warranty is up this summer. Like... staggering.

https://jmusports.com/news/2021/6/23/adm...-park.aspx

FML I'm old....

I am not sure where the last decade went, and plenty of posters on here who are senior to me, but I thought the exact same thing.
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(06-23-2021 12:31 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 11:28 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 11:17 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Wasn't sure what thread to post this in... but the Videoboard at BFS is being replaced. Hard to believe the 10-year warranty is up this summer. Like... staggering.

https://jmusports.com/news/2021/6/23/adm...-park.aspx

FML I'm old....

I am not sure where the last decade went, and plenty of posters on here who are senior to me, but I thought the exact same thing.

Um...WHAT? I mean, I guess it has been a long time since we had the min-tron...but that's crazy. Excited to see the upgrade in quality. Displays have come a LONG way in the past decade.
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This is all great news. I’m curious when video boards will be added to Veteran’s Memorial Park on both the baseball and softball sides.
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(06-23-2021 03:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is all great news. I’m curious when video boards will be added to Veteran’s Memorial Park on both the baseball and softball sides.

Skip the baseball video board and just channel the $ into softball.
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(06-23-2021 03:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is all great news. I’m curious when video boards will be added to Veteran’s Memorial Park on both the baseball and softball sides.

not to be all "leftovers for the girls", but the jumbotron at BFS wasn't bad. Could it go there?
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(06-23-2021 05:28 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 03:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is all great news. I’m curious when video boards will be added to Veteran’s Memorial Park on both the baseball and softball sides.

not to be all "leftovers for the girls", but the jumbotron at BFS wasn't bad. Could it go there?

Good idea. What a waste to just get rid of it.
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(06-23-2021 04:12 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(06-23-2021 03:49 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  This is all great news. I’m curious when video boards will be added to Veteran’s Memorial Park on both the baseball and softball sides.

Skip the baseball video board and just channel the $ into softball.

Softball has certainly earned the investment while baseball has not.

During the last decade (6 years of Ikenberry and 4-5 years of Spanky’s slow-roll towards retirement) the baseball program has been mediocre (at best). That time period covers the entire life of the new ballpark. And what does JMU have to show for building a new park? Nothing but disappointment. No NCAAT appearances. Heck, without looking it up, I don’t think JMU has made 50% of the CAATs in the last 10 years. That’s an embarrassing record of ineptitude.

There’s no doubt the new ballpark is a better environment to play ball in than then the old facility, but honestly, that is a very low design threshold. I’m going to try and make the case JMU blew it when it built the new park, and it may be a contributing reason for the current situation.

Initially, when the new ballpark was first proposed, it was going to meet the minimum permanent seating capacity for hosting NCAA Regional tournament games. That capacity is around 2500-3k. That seating capacity got cut to 1200 seats.

The budget for building the new JMU park was $9 million. How much of this was used to refurbish the old High School gym to support the softball and baseball locker rooms and indoor practice facilities is a question I can’t answer, but when you compare the $9 million budget to what TCU and Louisville spent to build their new baseball parks (roughly during the same time JMU was planning and building our park) a person must come to the conclusion that JMU didn’t get our money’s worth.

What JMU built wasn’t a D1 baseball park. It’s clean. It’s new-ish. But it’s not a D1 park. It just isn’t. I’m not talking about building the equivalent of a SEC park like LSU, or in the Big XII like Texas. Heck, I’m not even suggesting JMU build the equivalent of what UVA built…but look at TCU’s park, or Louisville. Those are D1 parks. And those facilities are capable of attracting top coaching talent, and serve as a basis for recruiting better players.

The current JMU park could be fixed by investing another $2-3 million, but who is going to invest that kind of money in the current program? Expand seating to a capacity of 2500? Nobody attends the games now. Improve all seating to seat backs? Again, nobody is attending. Video board? Why? Possible boxes? Better concessions? It’s a which comes first the chicken or the egg conundrum. Build it and they will come? Not likely, not likely given the current state of affairs.

MB got a new state-of-the-art basketball arena to recruit to, plus he’s obviously a competent HC. Ike? He inherited a program in disarray, without returning talent, and a facility that hamstrings his ability to recruit. After 6 years of Ike and the last 4-5 years of Spanky”s slow-roll towards retirement JMU has ZERO appearances in the NCAAT regionals, and (without looking it up) a record of appearing in fewer than half of the CAAT.

It’s a sad situation. The baseball program hasn’t earned the investment of additional resources, and perhaps JMU just can’t afford to make any additional investments right now. Still, the current situation is untenable.
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