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RE: So does the ACC Network become reality after all?
You're on to something, but you haven't driven to the end of the road yet.

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RE: So does the ACC Network become reality after all?
Money is fungible, and barring an actual military invasion and occupation (I'm looking at you, Army, Navy, Air Force, VMI, VT, and A&M), nobody owns any states.

Most of the arguments for and against the ACCN on this thread are irrelevant.
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(05-02-2017 05:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes! The nihilists have attacked the ACC and in spite of the "the Dude" the ACC abides! The network is coming and with it two additions and one of them major.

I don't love the ACC, have been critical of it at times, but the ACC will abide and their network will get a nice boost at it's inception if what I have heard from 2 different sources is true.

And ESPN isn't going away. It was still the most profitable sports network out there last year and really didn't have a close competitor. There is a major difference when it comes to taking a hit on a quarterly stock valuation or going bankrupt. ESPN is as far from bankruptcy as some on this board are from reality.

And as far as the streaming goes and cord cutting, and the demise of the market model goes, who do you think will be destroyed the most by these things? It's not the ACC with the best basketball product, or the SEC with the best football product, or the pair of them on ESPN with the best in college baseball, and softball.

It won't be any conference where the competition in a single sport is fierce. Because content will be what drives the payout for any form of pay for view. It will be small conferences, mid sized conferences, and large conferences with no depth that will be hurt. And those who fall into that category which also have relied upon the subscription market model will be devastated, and folks that's not the SEC and it won't be the ACC either. And if they sign a scheduling agreement that exceeds just one game it will help both.

"So, I know I'll rest easier knowing that somewhere out there the Dude was wrong and the ACC abides."

Besides the ACC really ties the South together!

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(05-04-2017 07:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/espns-jo...um=twitter

From the above link:
"One element that’s been mused about is ESPN potentially turning one of its lesser-used channels (likely ESPNews or ESPN Classic, possibly even ESPNU) into the ACC Network, similar to how Fox converted Speed into Fox Sports One (now FS1). That might actually make a lot of sense, as then they’re starting with some distribution instead of starting from scratch; there likely would be some renegotiation of rights, but this seems possible, especially with ESPN parent Disney recently lowering the carriage emphasis on those channels. So that might help, but launching a linear TV network is still expensive and difficult, and it may be even more difficult in 2019.

Of course, there are contractual penalties for ESPN if they don’t do so (reportedly up to $45 million annually), and that may be part of what’s pushing them to stay so committed to this despite the warning signs. And there are some potential benefits, too; ESPN has ACC rights through 2036, and if the network helps grow the ACC’s profile, those rights could become more valuable."
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Clearly the ACC Network is D.O.A. and all of these schools are wasting millions on studios and advanced camera equipment which will never be used...

http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2017/0...-5417.html
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Good news for the ACC is like before, I imagine there is a huge payout to the ACC of the linear network is not deployed. My prediction, we are going to start seeing Amazon Prime, Netflix, Youtube or Hula try to buy ESPN from disney and make it their streaming channel while outsourcing the licenses to networks. Remember, part of the problem with "Cord Cutting" you still need a connection. For example, I cut the cord but I still have PSVUE to access sports. Many people are moving from Cable to Streaming Cable type packages. I think Amazon will become the new ESPN Kingmaker by getting stuff that can be bought from Amazon to show duriing these streams. I think we will see the start with NFL Thursday night Football.
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ESPN's Skipper Tells John Swofford ACC Network Is "Full Speed Ahead" For '19 Launch

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily...C-Net.aspx
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(05-02-2017 06:57 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 05:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes! The nihilists have attacked the ACC and in spite of the "the Dude" the ACC abides! The network is coming and with it two additions and one of them major.

I don't love the ACC, have been critical of it at times, but the ACC will abide and their network will get a nice boost at it's inception if what I have heard from 2 different sources is true.

And ESPN isn't going away. It was still the most profitable sports network out there last year and really didn't have a close competitor. There is a major difference when it comes to taking a hit on a quarterly stock valuation or going bankrupt. ESPN is as far from bankruptcy as some on this board are from reality.

And as far as the streaming goes and cord cutting, and the demise of the market model goes, who do you think will be destroyed the most by these things? It's not the ACC with the best basketball product, or the SEC with the best football product, or the pair of them on ESPN with the best in college baseball, and softball.

It won't be any conference where the competition in a single sport is fierce. Because content will be what drives the payout for any form of pay for view. It will be small conferences, mid sized conferences, and large conferences with no depth that will be hurt. And those who fall into that category which also have relied upon the subscription market model will be devastated, and folks that's not the SEC and it won't be the ACC either. And if they sign a scheduling agreement that exceeds just one game it will help both.

"So, I know I'll rest easier knowing that somewhere out there the Dude was wrong and the ACC abides."

Besides the ACC really ties the South together!

+3 Lots of awesomeness in this post. 04-bow

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(05-02-2017 05:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 05:08 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't give much credence to pieces like this; It's the off season in Syracuse, they don't play baseball and it's the lull before the NCAA Lacrosse Tournament starts.

The cold reality for those pining for the death of the conference is The ACC has survived despite the wishes of a few less than credible bloggers with axes to grind. It's not only survived but prospered.

Keep hating. We'll just keep winning.
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Yes! The nihilists have attacked the ACC and in spite of the "the Dude" the ACC abides! The network is coming and with it two additions and one of them major.

I don't love the ACC, have been critical of it at times, but the ACC will abide and their network will get a nice boost at its inception if what I have heard from 2 different sources is true.

And ESPN isn't going away. It was still the most profitable sports network out there last year and really didn't have a close competitor. There is a major difference when it comes to taking a hit on a quarterly stock valuation or going bankrupt. ESPN is as far from bankruptcy as some on this board are from reality.

And as far as the streaming goes and cord cutting, and the demise of the market model goes, who do you think will be destroyed the most by these things? It's not the ACC with the best basketball product, or the SEC with the best football product, or the pair of them on ESPN with the best in college baseball, and softball.

It won't be any conference where the competition in a single sport is fierce. Why? Because content will be what drives the payout for any form of pay for view. It will be small conferences, mid sized conferences, and large conferences with no depth that will be hurt. And those who fall into that category which also have relied upon the subscription market model will be devastated, and folks that's not the SEC and it won't be the ACC either. And if they sign a scheduling agreement that exceeds just one game it will help both.

"So, I know I'll rest easier knowing that somewhere out there the Dude was wrong and the ACC abides."

Besides the ACC really ties the South together!

Well said JR!
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David Teel wrote an article about this.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...t,amp.html

Basically John Swofford says it is still going to happen. Exactly what you would expect him to say...but also very likely the truth.
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(05-06-2017 10:13 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  David Tell wrote an article about this.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...t,amp.html

Basically John Swofford says it is still going to happen. Exactly what you would expect him to say...but also very likely the truth.

I tend to agree. Assuming that Swofford says something, it's not like Swofford would say anything but "this is going to happen" at this point. If it doesn't happen, he'd wait until the last minute and doing it by saying something along the lines of "we're not getting a TV network because we're getting X which is way better!"

However, looking at the size of the facilities investments at ACC schools, the schools are clearly very convinced that it will happen. Also, the damages would be massive if the network doesn't materialize, so I'd be amazed if ESPN backs out. Lastly, Swofford didn't have to say anything. I think that the fact that he's even talking about it means there's an extremely good chance that the network will happen.
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My favorite thing about the ACC and Raycom back in the day was that they knew how many viewers that ECU drew. Whenever they got the chance they would put ECU in when we played at an ACC school. I bet we have been on the current ACC Network / Raycom more than any other non ACC program because the ACC knows we bring eye balls. The SEC could wake up one day and realize this. The SEC already has Charlotte market with South Carolina. What they do not have is Raleigh and I-95 corridor and that is what East Carolina brings. We have the most ECU alumni in Raleigh and probably are a close second for fans and alumni behind NC State in Raleigh. Plus we bring ENC and Wilmington. This does not include the massive amount alumni ECU has on the I 95 corridor all the way up Richmond, DC, and Philadelphia. I know a ton of ECU fans and Alumni who live in Central PA, Philly, Maryland/DC/NOVA.
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I don't think the question is whether a network will exist, but rather whether or not it will be as highly profitable as other conference networks
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(05-02-2017 02:25 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Another article about the ACC Network.

The jury is out if ESPN will go through with it.

BL: if ESPN is making money on the SEC Network that is a positive for the ACC as they drive similar eyeballz.

http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf...iver_index

Schools are collectively spending tens of millions on studios for a network that is in question? Doubtful.
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(05-04-2017 09:13 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  From the above link:
"One element that’s been mused about is ESPN potentially turning one of its lesser-used channels (likely ESPNews or ESPN Classic, possibly even ESPNU) into the ACC Network, similar to how Fox converted Speed into Fox Sports One (now FS1). That might actually make a lot of sense, as then they’re starting with some distribution instead of starting from scratch; there likely would be some renegotiation of rights, but this seems possible, especially with ESPN parent Disney recently lowering the carriage emphasis on those channels."

So how much does ESPN get per month for ESPNews or ESPNClassic now?

How much would they get per month for an ACCNetwork instead of those channels in non-ACC markets? In ACC-markets?

Finally, how much would it cost to create a whole new channel and get distribution?

Answers to those questions will determine which way ESPN will go.
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Here is what ND is doing to get ready for the ACC Network. The other ACC schools are doing the same thing.

Do you think that they would sink this much money into a project without ESPN guarantees?


As part of its $400 million Crossroads project (stadium additions/renovation), ND is almost finished building a new media center:

“It is a massive undertaking by the university,” says Scott Rinehart, broadcast technology program director, Fighting Irish Media, which will move into its new home — a state-of-the-art media center — next August. “It’s a media center that takes the Fighting Irish Media mission of telling the story of Notre Dame through the lens of athletics and expanding it to all of campus. We’re supporting non-athletic events today, but this just takes it to a whole other level.”

The media center will be located on the first floor of the complex’s east building and operated by a newly formed group called Notre Dame Studios, reporting to the university’s Office of Information Technology. The 18,000-sq.-ft. facility will support all facets of Notre Dame media production. From digital content in support of academics and faith-based initiatives to production of the videoboard shows in Notre Dame Stadium, Purcell Pavilion, and Compton Family Ice Arena, it will be a resource for students, faculty, and staff.

“The media center,” says Dan Skendzel, senior associate athletic director for media and branding, “is the manifestation of University President Rev. John Jenkins CSC and VP/Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick’s vision when they approved the launch of Fighting Irish Media: get started in athletics but always with the intent of scaling capability to support the university’s academic and faith missions.”

The media center will house two control rooms to support live productions for ACC Network Extra and NBC digital shows as well as live linear-television broadcasts. Two additional studio spaces, six edit rooms, and two audio rooms will also be brought online. Existing FIM facilities of two edit rooms, three control rooms, and one studio will be folded into a new IP-centric infrastructure. All venues —academic, athletic, and faith — will be connected via single-mode fiber to the media center.

http://www.sportsvideo.org/2016/09/15/am...e-stadium/
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"After all"??

After what??


The ACCN is going to be a separate cable TV channel, focusing on ACC athletics, exactly the same as the SECN is. There is literally zero doubt that this is going to happen.


How is this a valid thread?
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The ACC has an incredible population footprint. The ACC Network is going to do well.
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1. The ACCN is coming.

2. The overhead in preparation of it is in and of itself a safeguard. Should anything ever happen to ESPN, or to the cable network, the campuses will be set up for self production and streaming so the investment is solid. The SEC schools all did this as well.

3. The model will be ESPN owned like the SECN and will share the profits. In this shifting delivery climate not owning a network that you could lose your equity in is smart.

4. The ACC's footprint will be enough to make it successful.

5. The ACC's market penetration is its weakest link. They are dead last among the P5 in the actual number of viewers watching vs the total number of viewers. Notre Dame's full inclusion would go a long way towards helping with this. If that doesn't happen then a much closer scheduling arrangement with the SEC could go a long way in rectifying that percentage. Since both are possible, and ESPN can encourage the latter I think this will be the solution to that deficit.
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