Sickening.

Quote:An illegal immigrant and another man who live in the trailer park where a 22-year-old woman disappeared last Saturday are charged with kidnapping and raping her. The woman’s sister found her in the home of Luiz Lopez-Lara, 25, and Helmer Erazo, 23, on Monday afternoon.

Lopez-Lara and Erazo are charged with first-degree rape, first-degree kidnapping, and first-degree sexual abuse. Lopez-Lara is being held without bond because prosecutors fear he would disappear if a bond is allowed. A judge set Erazo’s bond at $150,000.

The men live in the Briarwood Mobile Home Park off Farm Road 156 near Missouri 413 (Sunshine Street) just west of south Springfield, where the girl lives with her sister.

According to the probable cause statements against the men, the victim has autism and the mental capacity of a 9-year-old child. She left a note when she disappeared “but it was unintelligible.”

More than 60 sheriff’s deputies, state troopers, and Springfield and Republic police officers searched the home and the surrounding area. They used bloodhounds from the Ozarks Correctional Center near Fordland, the sheriff’s department’s Mounted Posse, a Highway Patrol helicopter crew, and dozens of citizen-volunteers, but didn’t find the woman on Saturday, Sunday and Monday morning.

On Monday afternoon, the woman’s sister started walking through the mobile home park and showing her sister’s picture to people. That’s when a man standing at his mailbox told her that her sister was in his home. The woman’s sister called the sheriff’s department, which arrested three men, although only Lopez-Lara and Erazo were charged as of Tuesday afternoon. Officers said Lara-Lopez fled to another nearby mobile home before he was found and arrested.

The 22-year-old woman told officers and trained interviewers at the Child Advocacy Center that she’d been sexually assaulted and held against her will.

The woman said she ran away from her home because she was upset. As she was walking, according to the probable cause statement, she said “some ‘Mexicans were hitting on me,’ they were saying, ‘Hey pretty girl,’ whistling at her, and asked her to drink alcoholic beverages with them at their residence. She described the males as the ‘Mexican with the pony tail,’ the ‘Mexican in the black shirt,’ and the ‘Mexican in the green shirt.’, according to the detective’s statement.

http://www.ky3.com/content/news/2-face-r...64453.html

Not sending their best.

Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

These 2 will be back on the streets. Her autism will be used against her by a defense attorney.

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Yet the left does not acknowledge black on black crimes.

(04-21-2017 03:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Yet the left does not acknowledge black on black crimes.

Ridiculous.

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Because there are probably 15 Million illegal aliens in the USA, that is a whopping #.
They should no be here and yes they commit a lot of violent crimes. As a first world country it is really an embarrassment. Oh and it is hardly every crime, lol, it is usually reserved for rapists and murderers.

(04-21-2017 03:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Yet the left does not acknowledge black on black crimes.

Ridiculous.

(04-21-2017 03:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Because there are probably 15 Million illegal aliens in the USA, that is a whopping #.
They should no be here and yes they commit a lot of violent crimes. As a first world country it is really an embarrassment. Oh and it is hardly every crime, lol, it is usually reserved for rapists and murderers.

Sure haven't heard about the ones jaywalking.

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

You are correct. It isn't fair. We wouldn't want them to feel discriminated against. I'll start research.

(04-21-2017 03:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Because there are probably 15 Million illegal aliens in the USA, that is a whopping #.
They should no [sic] be here and yes they commit a lot of violent crimes. As a first world country it is really an embarrassment. Oh and it is hardly every crime, lol, it is usually reserved for rapists and murderers.

IIRC, They commit crimes, including violent ones, at a rate lower than non illegals.

(04-21-2017 04:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Because there are probably 15 Million illegal aliens in the USA, that is a whopping #.
They should no [sic] be here and yes they commit a lot of violent crimes. As a first world country it is really an embarrassment. Oh and it is hardly every crime, lol, it is usually reserved for rapists and murderers.

IIRC, They commit crimes, including violent ones, at a rate lower than non illegals.

No evidence to support that, Feds do not have that data. I don't think they even have accurate #'s on how much of the prison population are illegal aliens. Or they might have it and won't release it. All you have to do is go to any major county most wanted website, littered with illegal aliens or "grown" up anchor babies.

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

because was the easiest crime to have prevented. simple common sense.

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(04-21-2017 04:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 04:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is every crime the right finds that is committed by an illegal alien, refugee or Muslim worthy of a thread when all other crime in America, unless it's in Chicago, basically gets none?

I guess this explains why Trump voters think that crime is going up and that crime committed by these groups is somehow more than what is committed by others.

Because there are probably 15 Million illegal aliens in the USA, that is a whopping #.
They should no [sic] be here and yes they commit a lot of violent crimes. As a first world country it is really an embarrassment. Oh and it is hardly every crime, lol, it is usually reserved for rapists and murderers.

IIRC, They commit crimes, including violent ones, at a rate lower than non illegals.

No evidence to support that, Feds do not have that data. I don't think they even have accurate #'s on how much of the prison population are illegal aliens. Or they might have it and won't release it. All you have to do is go to any major county most wanted website, littered with illegal aliens or "grown" up anchor babies.

On that subject....

Quote:According to a recent Associated Press article, “multiple studies have concluded that immigrants are less likely to commit crime than native-born U.S. citizens.” But the issue isn’t non-citizens who are in this country legally, and who must abide by the law to avoid having their visas revoked or their application for citizenship refused. The real issue is the crimes committed by illegal aliens. And in that context, the claim is quite misleading, because the “multiple studies” on crimes committed by “immigrants” — including a 2014 study by a professor from the University of Massachusetts, which is the only one cited in the article — combine the crime rates of both citizens and non-citizens, legal and illegal.

That isn’t the only problem with the study. Instead of using official crime data, it uses “self-reported criminal offending and country of birth information.” For obvious reasons, there is little incentive for anyone, let alone criminal aliens, to self-report “delinquent and criminal involvement.” When it comes to self-reporting criminal activity, some respondents will, no doubt, exaggerate. Others will flat out lie. Furthermore, many respondents will likely not disclose if they are a non-citizen out of fear of discovery and deportation.

These claims overlook disturbing actual data on crimes committed by criminal aliens. For example, the Government Accountability Office released two unsettling reports in 2005 on criminal aliens who are in prison for committing crimes in the United States, and issued an updated report in 2011.

The first report (GAO-05-337R) found that criminal aliens (both legal and illegal) make up 27 percent of all federal prisoners. Yet according to the Center for Immigration Studies, non-citizens are only about nine percent of the nation’s adult population. Thus, judging by the numbers in federal prisons alone, non-citizens commit federal crimes at three times the rate of citizens.

The findings in the second report (GAO-05-646R) are even more disturbing. This report looked at the criminal histories of 55,322 aliens that “entered the country illegally and were still illegally in the country at the time of their incarceration in federal or state prison or local jail during fiscal year 2003.” Those 55,322 illegal aliens had been arrested 459,614 times, an average of 8.3 arrests per illegal alien, and had committed almost 700,000 criminal offenses, an average of roughly 12.7 offenses per illegal alien.

Out of all of the arrests, 12 percent were for violent crimes such as murder, robbery, assault and sex-related crimes; 15 percent were for burglary, larceny, theft and property damage; 24 percent were for drug offenses; and the remaining offenses were for DUI, fraud, forgery, counterfeiting, weapons, immigration, and obstruction of justice.

The 2011 GAO report wasn’t much different. It looked at 251,000 criminal aliens in federal, state, and local prisons and jails. Those aliens were arrested nearly 1.7 million times for close to three million criminal offenses. Sixty-eight percent of those in federal prison and 66 percent of those in state prisons were from Mexico. Their offenses ranged from homicide and kidnapping to drugs, burglary, and larceny.

Once again, these statistics are not fully representative of crimes committed by illegal aliens: This report only reflects the criminal histories of aliens who were in prison. If there were a way to include all crimes committed by criminal aliens, the numbers would likely be higher because prosecutors often will agree to drop criminal charges against an illegal alien if they are assured that immigration authorities will deport the alien.

The GAO reports also highlight another important flaw in the study referenced by the Associated Press. It uses survey data from a nationally representative sample of people living in the United States. Thus, the study does not take into account some potentially key factors highlighted in the GAO reports: that criminal aliens from Mexico disproportionately make up incarcerations (GAO-05-337R) and that most arrests are made in the three border states of California, Texas, and Arizona (GAO-05-646R and GAO-11-187).

[...]

Although there are no perfect measures of crimes committed by criminal aliens, it has certainly not been substantiated, as the Associated Press article states, that illegal aliens commit crimes at a lesser rate than either native-born or naturalized American citizens. In fact, existing data seems to show that the opposite is likely true.

But we do know one thing for sure. Every crime committed by an illegal alien is one that would not have occurred if that alien wasn’t in the United States in the first place. That includes the hundreds of thousands of crimes committed by the 55,322 illegal aliens in the GAO study who victimized countless numbers of Americans.

https://www.conservativereview.com/comme...l-activity