(06-19-2017 10:41 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  After watching the Clinton Campaign fiasco and these post november special elections, I believe we can safely conclude that throwing more money at a "problem" does not fix the "problem".

Democratic U.S. Senate seats fell from 55 to 46. Their share of the House plummeted from 256 seats to 194. 

Democratic governerships also became a rarity during this eight-year period, slipping from 28 to 16.


The Obama years, which saw the rise of the Tea Party as well as a new movement form around Trump that is still being defined, coincided with a loss of 958 state legislative seats for Democrats

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/...obama.html


Bu yeah, by all means, count it as a big win and keep doubling down on current philosophies.

(06-19-2017 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If democrats cant win this race, they are in deep ****. There is no other way to spin it. They are in deep deep ****.

its a Republican district. If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do. If they lose, then they've lost a seat historically held by a Republican... and a conservative one at that.

(06-19-2017 11:07 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If democrats cant win this race, they are in deep ****. There is no other way to spin it. They are in deep deep ****.

its a Republican district. If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do. If they lose, then they've lost a seat historically held by a Republican... and a conservative one at that.

yep .The ole "if we squeak out a win, its a huge shot across the bow, but if we lose, it was to be expected" delusionary talking point.

Reality is that Trump was this district by only 1.5 points, and the democrats have spent so much money on this election that it rivals the GDP of some small countries.

And here's the kicker. Can any libturd on here tell me what Osaff's message is?

(06-19-2017 10:40 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  I think the Dems win this race and will make out like it is a huge deal. I guess we will see in 2018 if that is the case. If the Dems don't win this race, then 2018 will be another disaster for them.

I agree. They spent so much time and money on this seat but In reality it will likely be a symbolic victory for 1 year. Will they be able to spend the amount of time and money needed to win seats like this in 2018 when there are 400+ going on? I guess we will see

(06-19-2017 11:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 11:07 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If democrats cant win this race, they are in deep ****. There is no other way to spin it. They are in deep deep ****.

its a Republican district. If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do. If they lose, then they've lost a seat historically held by a Republican... and a conservative one at that.

yep .The ole "if we squeak out a win, its a huge shot across the bow, but if we lose, it was to be expected" delusionary talking point.

Reality is that Trump was this district by only 1.5 points, and the democrats have spent so much money on this election that it rivals the GDP of some small countries.

And here's the kicker. Can any libturd on here tell me what Osaff's message is?

He's given up on his anti-Trump message. Dems figured out that was turning off moderates.

You have to admire the sentiment in the idea that if we win we win big but if we lose we don't actually.

(06-19-2017 11:07 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do.

LOL, unquestionably.

dems have been trying to set that narrative for 6 months now, but all they ever do is lose.

(06-19-2017 12:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 11:07 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do.

LOL, unquestionably.

dems have been trying to set that narrative for 6 months now, but all they ever do is lose.

its Tom Price's district. Certainly, Democrats have pounded the drum to try and get out their vote, but the demographics in that district still support the Republican.

Report: Liberal Jon Ossoff Has 9 Times as Many Cali Donors as GA Donors

I guess Ossoff is the designated savior of the Dems..

Quote:Georgia Democrat Jon Ossoff raised funds from 8.9 times as many donors in California than donors in Georgia between March 29 and May 31, according to his latest campaign finance reporting.

Ossoff, a 30-year old documentary filmmaker, faces Republican Karen Handel in a special election Tuesday to replace former Republican Rep. Tom Price who accepted President Donald Trump’s offer to serve as secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. (RELATED: Ossoff Sets Record For Out Of State Donations)

He reported 7,218 donations from the state of California and 808 donations from Georgia over the past two months, according to the Mercury News. Ossoff had over 3,000 donors in the San Francisco Bay area alone, nearly four times as many donors as he had in Georgia.

Overall, between March 29 and May 31, Ossoff reported $456,296.03 from California compared to $228,474.44 from Georgia. Ossoff received more than $220,000 from the Bay area alone. The Mercury News noted that the totals were only a fraction of the actual donations since he doesn’t have to report donations of less than $200.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/...-district/

(06-19-2017 12:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 11:07 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If they win, it unquestionably sends a shot across the republican bow... which is what they are hoping to do.

LOL, unquestionably.

dems have been trying to set that narrative for 6 months now, but all they ever do is lose.

ok

(06-19-2017 10:40 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  I think the Dems win this race and will make out like it is a huge deal. I guess we will see in 2018 if that is the case. If the Dems don't win this race, then 2018 will be another disaster for them.

2018? Regardless of what happens, the impact on any election 18 months away is zero.

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(06-16-2017 11:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  At least 128k ballots have already been cast, and that doesn't count people who voted Friday/16th.

Compare that to a total turnout (early voting + Election Day) of 193k for the primary in April.

Muh early voting!

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(06-19-2017 07:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 11:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  At least 128k ballots have already been cast, and that doesn't count people who voted Friday/16th.

Compare that to a total turnout (early voting + Election Day) of 193k for the primary in April.

Muh early voting!

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For 2018????

(06-19-2017 07:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 11:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  At least 128k ballots have already been cast, and that doesn't count people who voted Friday/16th.

Compare that to a total turnout (early voting + Election Day) of 193k for the primary in April.

Muh early voting!

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And apparently the Ossoff campaign is not real happy with these really high numbers.

It's their own fault. Treating Trump like this has simply kept his voters engaged.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6202.html

Final polls show a close race with slight slight edge to the GOP lady

What does a Trump-Ossoff voter look like?

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I just don't think this race really means much either way as far as big picture.

Repubs already have huge majorities in the House, and the dems are so desperate for a win ANYWHERE that we can't really tell any trend from this anyway. Way too much outside money and influence has been poured in now.

(06-19-2017 09:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I just don't think this race really means much either way as far as big picture.

Repubs already have huge majorities in the House, and the dems are so desperate for a win ANYWHERE that we can't really tell any trend from this anyway. Way too much outside money and influence has been poured in now.

Yup.

All politics are local. The left coast can blow their desperate millions in hopes of one seat in a place they'd likely never deign to actually set foot in, it's what they do.

But we know this is an area of changing demographics and a relatively weak R candidate is still likely to win. Maybe not, but then what changes? Nothing.

Still be Speaker Ryan. Leader McConnell. And POTUS 45, Trump.

BUT GUISE!!! We can add indi-filmmaker Ossoff to the mix!!!

Good luck with that.

(06-19-2017 11:26 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I just don't think this race really means much either way as far as big picture.

Repubs already have huge majorities in the House, and the dems are so desperate for a win ANYWHERE that we can't really tell any trend from this anyway. Way too much outside money and influence has been poured in now.

Yup.

All politics are local. The left coast can blow their desperate millions in hopes of one seat in a place they'd likely never deign to actually set foot in, it's what they do.

But we know this is an area of changing demographics and a relatively weak R candidate is still likely to win. Maybe not, but then what changes? Nothing.

Still be Speaker Ryan. Leader McConnell. And POTUS 45, Trump.

BUT GUISE!!! We can add indi-filmmaker Ossoff to the mix!!!

Good luck with that.

agree....more specifically to the prose