(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:05 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:04 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Then don't schedule us. I'm sure if we could get a home and home with you it would be a good get for LU since we will be a Transtional FBS team next year and need home games but a one and done is a waste of time.

It actually made me laugh out loud to read this. The fact that you truly believe that you have any leverage whatsoever when it comes to FBS scheduling.

The ONLY thing you have to offer ANYONE is a boat load of money. So prepare to crack open that check book fattened up by your online "school."

You'll get a few home FBS games, but you'll pay a hefty price for them.

Actually we are in a position of power and have quite bit of leverage. We need home and homes and can pay P5 or upper level G5's if we need to do a one and done home game. GSU or any lower level G5 school has zero leverage on us. I'm not saying that as an insult I'm saying we can say no to a one and done at home with GSU. GSU is the one that needs us given their position. Doing away games is the easy part of scheduling.

That aside I'm being told we have our 2018 and 2019 schedules almost done. I'm sure we will have quite a bit of home and home games on it. And maybe some one and done home games at LU. Don't confuse your hate of LU as some widely accepted thing. Most Athletic Directors don't care what Coastal thinks or what a poster on a forum thinks. Like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us. But it's doubtful anyone one this forum has their schools Athletic Director answering to them so in the end tough sh*t.

So what you did with this post is make a long winded effort to repackage what I already said and pretend it was different somehow.

You just admitted that your leverage is your checkbook. And like I stated in the post you are supposedly refuting, you have absolutely zero leverage except for your check book.

You'll pay dearly for the majority of the home FBS games you get.

And the problem I have with Coastal potentially playing liberty has absolutely nothing to do with hatred or politics or anything like that. I'm against it because it will further a perception problem we are fighting in the state of SC that we are still FCS. If we continue playing the same opponent that we played in our FCS days, it is counter productive to what we are trying to do perception wise.

Out of every single team in the Sun Belt, Coastal has the most to lose by even putting liberty on the schedule in my opinion. Much like we shouldn't be playing Furman or SC State any time in the near to intermediate future.

Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:05 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:52 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  It actually made me laugh out loud to read this. The fact that you truly believe that you have any leverage whatsoever when it comes to FBS scheduling.

The ONLY thing you have to offer ANYONE is a boat load of money. So prepare to crack open that check book fattened up by your online "school."

You'll get a few home FBS games, but you'll pay a hefty price for them.

Actually we are in a position of power and have quite bit of leverage. We need home and homes and can pay P5 or upper level G5's if we need to do a one and done home game. GSU or any lower level G5 school has zero leverage on us. I'm not saying that as an insult I'm saying we can say no to a one and done at home with GSU. GSU is the one that needs us given their position. Doing away games is the easy part of scheduling.

That aside I'm being told we have our 2018 and 2019 schedules almost done. I'm sure we will have quite a bit of home and home games on it. And maybe some one and done home games at LU. Don't confuse your hate of LU as some widely accepted thing. Most Athletic Directors don't care what Coastal thinks or what a poster on a forum thinks. Like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us. But it's doubtful anyone one this forum has their schools Athletic Director answering to them so in the end tough sh*t.

So what you did with this post is make a long winded effort to repackage what I already said and pretend it was different somehow.

You just admitted that your leverage is your checkbook. And like I stated in the post you are supposedly refuting, you have absolutely zero leverage except for your check book.

You'll pay dearly for the majority of the home FBS games you get.

And the problem I have with Coastal potentially playing liberty has absolutely nothing to do with hatred or politics or anything like that. I'm against it because it will further a perception problem we are fighting in the state of SC that we are still FCS. If we continue playing the same opponent that we played in our FCS days, it is counter productive to what we are trying to do perception wise.

Out of every single team in the Sun Belt, Coastal has the most to lose by even putting liberty on the schedule in my opinion. Much like we shouldn't be playing Furman or SC State any time in the near to intermediate future.

Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:05 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Actually we are in a position of power and have quite bit of leverage. We need home and homes and can pay P5 or upper level G5's if we need to do a one and done home game. GSU or any lower level G5 school has zero leverage on us. I'm not saying that as an insult I'm saying we can say no to a one and done at home with GSU. GSU is the one that needs us given their position. Doing away games is the easy part of scheduling.

That aside I'm being told we have our 2018 and 2019 schedules almost done. I'm sure we will have quite a bit of home and home games on it. And maybe some one and done home games at LU. Don't confuse your hate of LU as some widely accepted thing. Most Athletic Directors don't care what Coastal thinks or what a poster on a forum thinks. Like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us. But it's doubtful anyone one this forum has their schools Athletic Director answering to them so in the end tough sh*t.

So what you did with this post is make a long winded effort to repackage what I already said and pretend it was different somehow.

You just admitted that your leverage is your checkbook. And like I stated in the post you are supposedly refuting, you have absolutely zero leverage except for your check book.

You'll pay dearly for the majority of the home FBS games you get.

And the problem I have with Coastal potentially playing liberty has absolutely nothing to do with hatred or politics or anything like that. I'm against it because it will further a perception problem we are fighting in the state of SC that we are still FCS. If we continue playing the same opponent that we played in our FCS days, it is counter productive to what we are trying to do perception wise.

Out of every single team in the Sun Belt, Coastal has the most to lose by even putting liberty on the schedule in my opinion. Much like we shouldn't be playing Furman or SC State any time in the near to intermediate future.

Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

(04-11-2017 01:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  So what you did with this post is make a long winded effort to repackage what I already said and pretend it was different somehow.

You just admitted that your leverage is your checkbook. And like I stated in the post you are supposedly refuting, you have absolutely zero leverage except for your check book.

You'll pay dearly for the majority of the home FBS games you get.

And the problem I have with Coastal potentially playing liberty has absolutely nothing to do with hatred or politics or anything like that. I'm against it because it will further a perception problem we are fighting in the state of SC that we are still FCS. If we continue playing the same opponent that we played in our FCS days, it is counter productive to what we are trying to do perception wise.

Out of every single team in the Sun Belt, Coastal has the most to lose by even putting liberty on the schedule in my opinion. Much like we shouldn't be playing Furman or SC State any time in the near to intermediate future.

Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

I'm waiting on that link saying all of the FBS won't schedule us. Please provide the link. You must have a source since you keep saying we are desperate. And I said it is a guess we will be playing since we have a long history. If you think that's not a true statement then you be cray cray. The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation. In others that are P5's that won't do a H&H we can to a 2 for 1 or a one and done at LU and pay the P5. All of it is doable. And yes I am a outsider looking in but I don't make broad comments like Coastal is desperate for games or whatever and make it sound factual when it's not.

I think Coastal playing LU won't be good or bad it will just be more of the same. What I think will be a negative is your small stadium. I've seen pics it's a very nice stadium and something you should be proud of. But to get those high level P5 teams to do a home will be challenging but not impossible without expanding your seat capacity. To build that name for yourself you need to host some P5's and occasionally beat them. That would apply to any new FBS team.

CurtisC and CoastalAlum... did you guys used to be married??? LOL!

(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Money talks in FBS the sooner you come to terms with that the better. Having a checkbook is a good thing at the highest level of Football. CUSA is on the verge of exploding because of you guessed it...the lack of money. That is just rumor but given the huge pay cut it would make sense.

I love all of the G5 teams and would love a home and home with anyone of them. But like I said before if you hate us then don't schedule us, if you have any say with your AD then make it happen. I won't lose any sleep over it I can promise you that. But I'm sure Coastal and LU will be playing in the near distance future. You know it and I know it.

Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

I'm waiting on that link saying all of the FBS won't schedule us. Please provide the link. You must have a source since you keep saying we are desperate. And I said it is a guess we will be playing since we have a long history. If you think that's not a true statement then you be cray cray. The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation. In others that are P5's that won't do a H&H we can to a 2 for 1 or a one and done at LU and pay the P5. All of it is doable. And yes I am a outsider looking in but I don't make broad comments like Coastal is desperate for games or whatever and make it sound factual when it's not.

I think Coastal playing LU won't be good or bad it will just be more of the same. What I think will be a negative is your small stadium. I've seen pics it's a very nice stadium and something you should be proud of. But to get those high level P5 teams to do a home will be challenging but not impossible without expanding your seat capacity. To build that name for yourself you need to host some P5's and occasionally beat them. That would apply to any new FBS team.

Ok. I tried. Futile effort.

I don't see how someone wanting you guys for a one and done game is leverage when all they have to do is move on to the next school. Just because y'all tell them no doesn't mean they're gonna be like "oh they turned down a payday game at our place, let's offer a h/h instead."

(04-11-2017 01:57 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I don't see how someone wanting you guys for a one and done game is leverage when all they have to do is move on to the next school. Just because y'all tell them no doesn't mean they're gonna be like "oh they turned down a payday game at our place, let's offer a h/h instead."

I had typed up a similar response but decided it wasn't worth it.

But yes. What you're saying here is actually highly logical and it's how negotiation works in the real world. Whether you're buying a used car from a guy off Craigslist or you're scheduling football games. The ability and willingness to walk away is the ultimate trump card. And Liberty does not have that leverage. All they have is their checkbook. Which will absolutely get them games. But it will cost them.

I guess you have to provide a link to post simple logic around here.

(04-11-2017 11:46 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:20 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 08:40 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  So on April Fools I made a weak joke about Liberty and GS scheduling a H/H. Yesterday someone broke news that we are hosting Texas Southern in 2018. The article also stated that our home game with Tulsa for 2018 has been cancelled.

Anyways since we got backed out on a short notice we might have to schedule Liberty if we want a "G5" home game next year. Obviously none of us want to schedule them but if we it ends up happening then I'll have to blame it on karma striking back after what I said.

Speak for yourself. I don't / wouldn't have an issue with Liberty. Beats the heck out of a second year FCS ETSU or Savannah State. I've about had it with the politically correct crowd decreeing what is and isn't acceptable. If it were up to me I'd schedule 'em just to hack you people off.

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You don't know me. I'm not very politically correct. I'd just rather not schedule a team that is only FBS because they said they are.

I thought pres. Trump cancelled political correctness

(04-11-2017 01:50 PM)Meathead Wrote:  CurtisC and CoastalAlum... did you guys used to be married??? LOL!

This is just carry over from the Big South. Same way when they blasted GS for considering Chadwell when he was owning them and now not a peep about him.

(04-11-2017 02:00 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:57 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I don't see how someone wanting you guys for a one and done game is leverage when all they have to do is move on to the next school. Just because y'all tell them no doesn't mean they're gonna be like "oh they turned down a payday game at our place, let's offer a h/h instead."

I had typed up a similar response but decided it wasn't worth it.

But yes. What you're saying here is actually highly logical and it's how negotiation works in the real world. Whether you're buying a used car from a guy off Craigslist or you're scheduling football games. The ability and willingness to walk away is the ultimate trump card. And Liberty does not have that leverage. All they have is their checkbook. Which will absolutely get them games. But it will cost them.

I guess you have to provide a link to post simple logic around here.

So LU has no leverage when we can just say no to a one and done at another school? I beg to differ. We aren't desperate for games. I don't know if the imaginary lizard people you seem to have intimate conversations about LU told you we are but we aren't. YOU have issues with LU not AD's at most or all schools. If they do they have haven't made it public. And if it's a private opinion it's doubtful that that confide in a Coastal poster on the Sunbelt board.

(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation.

No duh away games are easy, FCS schools get away games at FBS obviously. Nothing new there for y'all.

So apparently your leverage is that you "need home games". So does everyone else...

I don't see how saying no to a P5 that wants a payday game leads to a H/H.

Look I'm not saying no one will play y'all. I just don't see how that equates to leverage when every other school is capable of scheduling away games, and needs home games. I'm sure y'all have a great schedule lined up. I just hope we're not on it.

Just reading this board it would be hilarious if Liberty announced a P5 home game before Ga Southern.

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(04-13-2017 10:05 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Just reading this board it would be hilarious if Liberty announced a P5 home game before Ga Southern.

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That would be ironic. The outrage would be funny

(04-13-2017 09:45 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation.

No duh away games are easy, FCS schools get away games at FBS obviously. Nothing new there for y'all.

So apparently your leverage is that you "need home games". So does everyone else...

I don't see how saying no to a P5 that wants a payday game leads to a H/H.

Look I'm not saying no one will play y'all. I just don't see how that equates to leverage when every other school is capable of scheduling away games, and needs home games. I'm sure y'all have a great schedule lined up. I just hope we're not on it.

I'm not talking about saying no to a P5 although that's not saying we wouldn't, depends on the P5. I'm saying we would say no to a G5 very easily if we couldn't get a future home game out of it. I keep reading we are desperate for games so because of that a one and done away game is a must have for LU. I don't know where people get their info but we aren't desperate and if we are how would anyone know that. I think folks are mixing up facts and opinions here and I'm just trying to set them straight. For 2018 all we need is 3 home games and then it bumps up to 5 in 2019. That would be easy to do. Just front load a bunch of away games in 2018 and have a home game with said schools later on. That way we have home games in the pipeline. I'm not saying that's what we are going to do I'm just saying it's not that hard to make something happen.

(04-11-2017 01:01 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Yep. We beat them in Tulsa a few years back.

I sure hope we are compensated in some way for this cancellation, even if they still plan to play us in San Marcos in the future.

I don't think it is cancelled yet. FBS Schedules had it listed as TBA. They may just try to make it up at a later date. If they do cancel, there should be a clause in the contract that requires some sort of compensation. Doubt it is more than a few hundred thousand though.

Right, but the 2018 game won't be played as scheduled and that's an issue considering it's already 2017 now.

We are left to scramble to try and find a home FBS game for 2018 now when almost everyone has their schedules for 2018 finalized. Even if they still plan to make the game up we're still getting screwed here.

(04-11-2017 01:54 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:13 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Actually I don't know that and you don't know that.

But the real question here is this...why would you want to play us? Other than complete desperation on your part to get FBS games on the schedule...

This would hurt your perception battle in your state just like it would hurt ours in SC.

And again...you're agreeing with me so much that you're trying to make it a disagreement. Here it is simply for you: Liberty = absolutely zero leverage to schedule anyone other than paying a huge amount of money. End of story.

I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

I'm waiting on that link saying all of the FBS won't schedule us. Please provide the link. You must have a source since you keep saying we are desperate. And I said it is a guess we will be playing since we have a long history. If you think that's not a true statement then you be cray cray. The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation. In others that are P5's that won't do a H&H we can to a 2 for 1 or a one and done at LU and pay the P5. All of it is doable. And yes I am a outsider looking in but I don't make broad comments like Coastal is desperate for games or whatever and make it sound factual when it's not.

I think Coastal playing LU won't be good or bad it will just be more of the same. What I think will be a negative is your small stadium. I've seen pics it's a very nice stadium and something you should be proud of. But to get those high level P5 teams to do a home will be challenging but not impossible without expanding your seat capacity. To build that name for yourself you need to host some P5's and occasionally beat them. That would apply to any new FBS team.

Ok. I tried. Futile effort.

It was heroic, though. No matter what you wrote, he insisted that you and he were saying different things.

(04-13-2017 02:24 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:54 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:44 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:23 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 01:19 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  I don't know if we will play you for certain but given our long history it's a good guess. Do I care if we play you? No I do not care either way. And unless you have a source other than looking into a crystal ball you don't know who will do a H&H game with LU. If you have a link that you can share that would apply to every school in the FBS saying something to the effect that our school won't play LU in FBS FB then I'll take you seriously. Otherwise you are just a forum poster that is on the outside looking in like 99% of the posters on CSN.

I'm very openly stating that I don't know if we will play and you don't know either. So actually, you're the one claiming to have a crystal ball saying you know for a fact we will be playing soon. Where is your link? Oh I guess you're just an ass clown poster like the rest of us.

I'm going to give this another try. Try real hard to stay focused.

As a Liberty fan, why would you not see a problem with Liberty playing Coastal, outside of the fact that Liberty is desperate for games?

Do you really not think that would look bad for both Liberty and Coastal?

I'll give you a hint as to my end game here....the only motivation (AKA leverage point) here is that Liberty needs games. And that my friend, is negotiating from a place of weakness.

I'm waiting on that link saying all of the FBS won't schedule us. Please provide the link. You must have a source since you keep saying we are desperate. And I said it is a guess we will be playing since we have a long history. If you think that's not a true statement then you be cray cray. The leverage we have is away games are easy to schedule and we need home games. So we can say no to a school that just wants a one and done home game. That's the leverage we have in that situation. In others that are P5's that won't do a H&H we can to a 2 for 1 or a one and done at LU and pay the P5. All of it is doable. And yes I am a outsider looking in but I don't make broad comments like Coastal is desperate for games or whatever and make it sound factual when it's not.

I think Coastal playing LU won't be good or bad it will just be more of the same. What I think will be a negative is your small stadium. I've seen pics it's a very nice stadium and something you should be proud of. But to get those high level P5 teams to do a home will be challenging but not impossible without expanding your seat capacity. To build that name for yourself you need to host some P5's and occasionally beat them. That would apply to any new FBS team.

Ok. I tried. Futile effort.

It was heroic, though. No matter what you wrote, he insisted that you and he were saying different things.

Glad someone else saw it. Lol.

At one point I started thinking that it was like a game for him to agree with me yet try and mask it as some sort of disagreement.

This was pretty much the conversation:

Person A: "Water is wet!"
Person B: "You're so wrong!!!! Water is DEFINITELY not dry!!! Where is your link? Still waiting on proof!!!!!!1!!1!1!!!!1!!"
Person A: "ok I give up. You're right."

Who left the door open and let the liberty fan in?

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