“As president I sit over a number of dormant volcanoes,” Loh said. “One of them is an athletic scandal. It blows up, it blows up the university, its reputation, it blows up the president.

“For the things that happened in North Carolina, it’s abysmal. I would think that this would lead to the implementation of the death penalty by the NCAA. But I’m not in charge of that.”

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Joel Curran, vice chancellor of communications at North Carolina, said school officials were taken aback by Loh's statement.

"We were surprised that a sitting university president with no direct knowledge of our case would choose to offer such uninformed and highly speculative opinions," Curran wrote in an email.

Uniformed on all the fake classes offered to UNC Athletes? Do tell.

This is the same Wallace Loh that sat in a committee meeting in Greensboro with three other ACC presidents and pledged his and his institution's loyalty to the ACC only three weeks before Maryland betrayed the ACC.

NC deserves to be punished but the "death penalty", no. What NC is arguing, IMO, is that since the classes were also offered to ALL students that it didn't provide any extra benefits to athletes. That this should be more of an accreditation issue than an NCAA one. The merit of this argument is being argued now.

(04-11-2017 10:23 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  NC deserves to be punished but the "death penalty", no. What NC is arguing, IMO, is that since the classes were also offered to ALL students that it didn't provide any extra benefits to athletes. That this should be more of an accreditation issue than an NCAA one. The merit of this argument is being argued now.

Not surprising, but crazy that UNC would rather their accreditation be hurt than their athletics. On the other hand, accredition is probably easier for them to correct in the long run.

My graduate school was going through their re-accreditation (as in, they were accredited and trying to keep it) process while I was there. Long, hard work, but manageable, at least from my perspective.

I would think a 4 year ban on all post season play coupled with no eligibility for conference or national titles and the firing of all faculty and administration that were even obliquely involved would be in line. Add probation for accreditation to that and you have a just penalty for their actions.

A 4 year ban on post season titles will significantly hurt recruiting and the firing of the faculty with their transgressions on their record will stick to the psyches of all faculty everywhere. That part helps the rest of us.

(04-11-2017 11:30 AM)JRsec Wrote:  I would think a 4 year ban on all post season play coupled with no eligibility for conference or national titles and the firing of all faculty and administration that were even obliquely involved would be in line. Add probation for accreditation to that and you have a just penalty for their actions.

A 4 year ban on post season titles will significantly hurt recruiting and the firing of the faculty with their transgressions on their record will stick to the psyches of all faculty everywhere. That part helps the rest of us.

Strip them of titles and wins too.

At the end of the day the NCAA will pay a great deal of the legal expenses incurred over the past 7 years by the University and apologize in hopes that Carolina doesn't sue it out of existence.

(04-11-2017 12:51 PM)XLance Wrote:  At the end of the day the NCAA will pay a great deal of the legal expenses incurred over the past 7 years by the University and apologize in hopes that Carolina doesn't sue it out of existence.

Great! Either way we win. If Carolina gets hammered a new sense of justice will befall the NCAA. If not the NCAA needs to be abandoned and the nearly 1 billion in endowed money distributed to all member institutions.