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Big West fans pissed
Got on the Big West message board to see reaction to Bakersfield addition. Yikes! Not happy campers. Some pretty disparaging things being said about Bakersfield. Good luck with that bunch Clarity.
11-27-2017 09:21 PM
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(11-27-2017 09:21 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  Got on the Big West message board to see reaction to Bakersfield addition. Yikes! Not happy campers. Some pretty disparaging things being said about Bakersfield. Good luck with that bunch Clarity.
Old news....

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11-27-2017 10:46 PM
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Why would you want large conference in one bid league where tournament money is going to be split? I like 8 but there is some volatility there.
11-28-2017 12:34 AM
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Just like watching the Seven Stages of Grief unfold.

Seriously, many figured this day would likely come..... at some point sooner or later...or MUCH later. Every year, it seemed as soon as June came and sports was over, a CSUB fear thread was begun on the BW Boards. No lie, almost annually!
So, now it has finally come and the drama is playing out and all will subside into acceptance at some point.

That said....I'd still rather stay here. I DO hate the thought of this making the WAC doomed. The WAC and BW DO need each other. I DO hope a few replacements are gathered.
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11-28-2017 03:08 PM
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The WAC is doomed always has been. UMKC and Chicago State will be gone this year. GCU/NMSU to the Horizon. The first two this year the next two probably this year but next spring at the very latest. This could be the last season of WAC basketball or 2018-19. It will be one of them. I can guarantee you NMSU will not be waiting around for D2 moveups for a second time. They are very upset at this. If anyone thinks the WAC is here for the long term they are in for a very rude awakening which is what I've been saying. Keep in mind I am the only person here who has actually been right on all this and was met with massive backlash.
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(11-28-2017 03:16 PM)Clarity Wrote:  The WAC is doomed always has been. UMKC and Chicago State will be gone this year. GCU/NMSU to the Horizon. The first two this year the next two probably this year but next spring at the very latest. This could be the last season of WAC basketball or 2018-19. It will be one of them. If anyone thinks the WAC is here for the long term they are in for a very rude awakening which is what I've been saying. Keep in mind I am the only person here who has actually been right on all this and was met with massive backlash.

Remind me about your posts that CSUB was moving to the BW and that would begin the collapse of the WAC? I can't seem to locate them...
11-28-2017 03:27 PM
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I've said the WAC was unstable since the beginning. You all said the WAC was stable and all was happy go lucky. I am not surprised at the CSUB news but everyone else is shocked. CSUB got out of the sinking ship first.
11-28-2017 03:29 PM
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Saying the WAC is unstable and taking credit for it is like saying, "I told you the sun would rise this morning".
11-28-2017 03:40 PM
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Hey man don't blame me blame the majority of people on here who are absolutely stunned at this news.
11-28-2017 03:43 PM
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I agree that you have been vocal about the collapse of the WAC. It appears that you and everyone else on this board was shocked of the news that Bako was going to the BW. You have also clearly stated that UMKC was going to the Summit.

I've personally never posted that the WAC was stable. But I never saw the Bako move coming and I have not seen anything credible that UMKC is leaving for the Summit.

Time will tell if the WAC will continue. If it collapses, I will give you credit. But to date you have not "been right" on anything regarding a WAC collapse that I can find. Last I checked the WAC was still chugging along.
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Had to see it for myself, BW fans absolutely hate CSUB being added.
11-28-2017 04:10 PM
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(11-28-2017 04:10 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Had to see it for myself, BW fans absolutely hate CSUB being added.

You would feel the same way. Just a few years ago the BW was oh so close to getting back San Diego State and Boise. Three of the last four years its conference RPI for basketball was in the mid-teens, a vast improvement over the previous decade. "Settling" for UC San Diego and Cal State Bakersfield just feels like a letdown. Now if NMSU, Seattle or Grand Canyon comes along, that tune will change.
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Theres even UCSD fans on there not wanting Bakersfield. Sheesh.

"Sorry about bringing Bakersfield with us...now lets work together to kick them out!"
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(11-28-2017 04:43 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  Theres even UCSD fans on there not wanting Bakersfield. Sheesh.

"Sorry about bringing Bakersfield with us...now lets work together to kick them out!"

Yes, I saw that too. (He was chided by another established poster for it too, BTW) He sounds....very knowledgeable.... and mature, bagging on a school that cut its transition teeth in Indy and has built back up from weakness to a good program today/ Hopefully, his school will be able to say that as well.

Ive lurked on the BW Boards for 10+ years at various times. Believe it or not, like I joked on another thread, its is like stages of grief. I DO see some who have had it sink in and are dealing with it.

Hey, a plus in that....we can't disappoint their expectations, but we CAN be a pleasant surprise (as one other poster noted)
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(11-28-2017 04:38 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(11-28-2017 04:10 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Had to see it for myself, BW fans absolutely hate CSUB being added.

You would feel the same way. Just a few years ago the BW was oh so close to getting back San Diego State and Boise. Three of the last four years its conference RPI for basketball was in the mid-teens, a vast improvement over the previous decade. "Settling" for UC San Diego and Cal State Bakersfield just feels like a letdown. Now if NMSU, Seattle or Grand Canyon comes along, that tune will change.

There is a lot of CA east-west political and cultural divide wrapped up in that too, with regards to Bako and the Big West.
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CP. I wouldn't make it up just to piss off Clarity. It's funny cause when I did a poll with Sun Belt fans and almost all of them wanted NMSU to have a full invite yet the administrators (Benson) did the exact opposite. Bakersfield gets in invite and the Big West fan base hates them. I don't get it.
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I figured Bakersfield would want to stay around more especially with the NMSU rivalry really flourishing. Now they have only two more years to try and stick it to NMSU and GCU before they leave.
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(11-28-2017 07:32 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  CP. I wouldn't make it up just to piss off Clarity. It's funny cause when I did a poll with Sun Belt fans and almost all of them wanted NMSU to have a full invite yet the administrators (Benson) did the exact opposite. Bakersfield gets in invite and the Big West fan base hates them. I don't get it.

Well, that's a complicated deal.

Obviously, it's a small and vocal sampling. Especially that board. Those guys have been there forever. Very little turnover on that board.

Lots of factions. The old big west, with their abandonment issues, and the newer members. The UCs, and the CSUs. Ironically Poly kind of falls in the middle of all those groups. Then of course you've got Poly and Davis which play football, and the old big west fans that hate football because it made all the top members leave. The Argentine cowboys and the Niners are traditionally the best basketball programs.

The mod on that board, GauchoDan is a class guy. Does a great job.

Bako is bako. In the California dictionary if you look up "the sticks" it says see Bako. I'm from Visalia, which is halfway between Fresno and Bakersfield. Not specifically on that board, I'm talking in general now. Coastal CA is wealthy, blue, and urban, and inland CA is blue collar, red, and rural. So you'll see a lot of that reflected in that boards attitude toward Bakersfield. Davis is Sac, which is inland, but not really rural, it also is the 3rd best public university in a state that takes enormous pride in its higher education system. You see that reflected on the board, most posters don't go after Davis, while they will take cheap shots at CSUN.

But you're right, they mostly all hate Bako, which to be honest, is partly fear based. They don't want their school getting whipped by Cal State Bakersfield of all places.

The Big West is an alumni and student league, not a community league. (Exclude Hawaii from everything I'm saying because they are the anamoly). It's why I don't think it's a good fit for CSUB. The goal there is to be a community team, ie, the "pro" team of Bakersfield, like State is to Fresno.
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To your last point yes being like Fresno State would be an amazing thing.
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(11-29-2017 12:59 AM)Clarity Wrote:  To your last point yes being like Fresno State would be an amazing thing.
But you will never be because Fresno State is all about football.
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