Saw this posted elsewhere and found it interesting:

From an interview with Saul Smith last year:

"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."

Thats like me going to score a hot chic, showing up to bars in sweatpants and a beat up car and saying "hey babe, Im interested in taking you home. Ill be in the corner over there by myself if your interested".

No wonder they've never signed a top 50 player. They aren't willing to tolerate a kid making a tough decision between 10 different schools??? That whole paragraph said it all.

That tactic might work at a school like Kentucky.... I guess......

(04-06-2017 08:43 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  From an interview with Saul Smith last year:

"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."

JEEBUS

(04-05-2017 03:22 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Mike Norvell wins more games than Tubby next year.

Care to wager on that?

(04-06-2017 08:32 AM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 02:47 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I'll try to update this as pieces fall into place ...

As of 04/05/17:

PG: Jeremiah Martin (Jr.) / Keon Clergeot (So.)
SG: Markel Crawford (RS-Sr.) / Jamal Johnson (Fr.)
SF: David Nickleberry (Fr.)
PF: Jimario Rivers (Sr.) / Victor Enoh (Fr.)
C: Karim Azab (So.)

Remaining Scholarships: 5

Expected Departures: Markel Crawford (grad-transfer)

Targets: Zhaire Smith (G), Kyvon Davenport (F-JUCO), Ron Freeman (G-JUCO), Raynere Thornton (F-JUCO), Chris Darrington (G-JUCO), Toriano Stokes (C-JUCO), Kareem Brewton (G-JUCO)

Add Garrison Brooks (PF) as a target IF he gets out of his LOI w/Mississippi State. Joe Esposito is the lead and was recruiting him prior. Brooks also played AAU ball with Jamal Johnson.

His dad is George Brooks - longtime Mississippi State assistant coach. Garrison plays for Auburn HS (AL) ... Bruce Pearl has an opening on staff.... hmmm...

Well, we just got out of that situation.

Sounds like George Brooks is a pimp.

LMAO

(04-06-2017 08:43 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  JUCO all-stars
The 3 man 3 star frosh class
One Memphian in Martin
Rivers and Clergeot
No grads

BAM

Building a Mess

(04-06-2017 11:25 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Well, we just got out of that situation.

Sounds like George Brooks is a pimp.

LMAO

Whoring out his kids.

(04-06-2017 08:43 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Saw this posted elsewhere and found it interesting:

From an interview with Saul Smith last year:

"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."

Thats like me going to score a hot chic, showing up to bars in sweatpants and a beat up car and saying "hey babe, Im interested in taking you home. Ill be in the corner over there by myself if your interested".

No wonder they've never signed a top 50 player. They aren't willing to tolerate a kid making a tough decision between 10 different schools??? That whole paragraph said it all.

That tactic might work at a school like Kentucky.... I guess......

(04-05-2017 02:47 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I'll try to update this as pieces fall into place ...

As of 04/05/17:

PG: Jeremiah Martin (Jr.) / Keon Clergeot (So.)
SG: Markel Crawford (RS-Sr.) / Jamal Johnson (Fr.)
SF: David Nickleberry (Fr.)
PF: Jimario Rivers (Sr.) / Victor Enoh (Fr.)
C: Karim Azab (So.)

Remaining Scholarships: 5

Expected Departures: Markel Crawford (grad-transfer)

Targets: Zhaire Smith (G), Kyvon Davenport (F-JUCO), Ron Freeman (G-JUCO), Raynere Thornton (F-JUCO), Chris Darrington (G-JUCO), Toriano Stokes (C-JUCO), Kareem Brewton (G-JUCO)

What team? The way it is going we ain't going to have a team. Only 6 players or 7?

Updated OP. Bump.

Kareem Brewton is on the board.

(04-06-2017 11:21 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Updated OP. Bump.

Kareem Brewton is on the board.

Prob just put him where Markel is.

(04-06-2017 08:51 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:22 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Mike Norvell wins more games than Tubby next year.

Care to wager on that?

It was mostly hyperbole. I would never wager on that for a myriad of reasons, mostly, I want our basketball team to win every game they play.

If you wanted to wager on our football team winning 8-9 games this year, I'd take that bet. Hopefully, for the same reason I stated above, you wouldn't though.

Still a long way to go - 5 spots open, may even be a 6th, outside possibility of 7 - either way, 2 JCs visiting this weekend and 1 next weekend and tons of transfers (standard, grad, JC) on the board - tons:

Karim Azab C 6-11 SO Giza, Egypt
Victor Enoh F 6-8 FR Decatur, Georgia
David Nickelberry G/F 6-7 FR Windermere, Florida
Jimario Rivers F 6-7 SR Clarksville, Tennessee
Jamal Johnson G 6-4 FR Birmingham, Alabama
Jeremiah Martin G 6-3 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Kareem Brewton G 6-2 JR Claxton, Georgia/Eastern Florida State CC
Keon Clergeot G 6-1 SO Auburndale, Florida

(04-06-2017 11:24 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 11:21 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Updated OP. Bump.

Kareem Brewton is on the board.

Prob just put him where Markel is.

I'm waiting until the Markel deal is official. But I anticipate I'll update that soon

There is no way they hire Tubby if they didn't think the B12 was imminent. Safest of the safest hire.

(04-07-2017 09:30 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  There is no way they hire Tubby if they didn't think the B12 was imminent. Safest of the safest hire.

For $3MM we could have hired Holtmann, taken a serious run at Archie Miller....or just hire Brad Underwood away from Oklahoma State. Utterly botched search.

(04-07-2017 09:30 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  There is no way they hire Tubby if they didn't think the B12 was imminent. Safest of the safest hire.

It wasn't even that safe of a hire? You know what he did at Minnesota and Texas Tech. Why would you pay him 3mm to do that here.

(04-06-2017 11:30 AM)MTiger14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 08:43 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Saw this posted elsewhere and found it interesting:

From an interview with Saul Smith last year:

"Recruiting, to me, is the lifeblood of a program. But the great thing about working for a guy like Coach Smith is if a player is not interested or kind of puts us to the side, we don't even worry about it. We just move on to the next kid. He's won with less players; he's won with great players. So when a kid struggles to figure out what he wants to do, we're like, 'Look, you've got a scholarship offer. We're willing to take you if you really want to come. We're letting you know we've got two or three other kids in mind.' And if they say, 'Coach, I'm gonna wait,' I'm like, 'Well, it's been great. Let us know if we can do something for you,' and we'll just go sign the other kid. We don't have time for that."

Thats like me going to score a hot chic, showing up to bars in sweatpants and a beat up car and saying "hey babe, Im interested in taking you home. Ill be in the corner over there by myself if your interested".

No wonder they've never signed a top 50 player. They aren't willing to tolerate a kid making a tough decision between 10 different schools??? That whole paragraph said it all.

That tactic might work at a school like Kentucky.... I guess......

The funny thing is that the hot Chick does get to do that...The hot chick gets to chill and wait to see what else is around and take her pick. We aint the hot chick, we gotta work.

But it appears by that statement that the staff is saying that we will keep moving down the bar until we get to the first chick that easily says yes. At this point we are down to 200lb chick with the stache.

The sad thing is that Saul doesn't seem like he cares to compete to try and land a kid...Just hey were Memphis and my dads Tubby...Wanna play...If the answer is no whether we need you or not we are moving on.

(04-07-2017 10:55 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(04-07-2017 09:30 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  There is no way they hire Tubby if they didn't think the B12 was imminent. Safest of the safest hire.

It wasn't even that safe of a hire? You know what he did at Minnesota and Texas Tech. Why would you pay him 3mm to do that here.

Different definition of safe. From the B12 perspective. You make a risky or irritating hire in their eyes and then all of sudden it is no longer imminent. Of course, the irony is we still didn't get in, but we absolutely didn't think that was the case at the time. Quite the contrary. We absolutely considered it imminent. So they hired someone that was 100% guaranteed not to 'rock the boat' from any potential angle with the B12.

(04-07-2017 12:07 AM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  

(04-06-2017 08:51 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 03:22 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  Mike Norvell wins more games than Tubby next year.

Care to wager on that?

It was mostly hyperbole. I would never wager on that for a myriad of reasons, mostly, I want our basketball team to win every game they play.

If you wanted to wager on our football team winning 8-9 games this year, I'd take that bet. Hopefully, for the same reason I stated above, you wouldn't though.

Yes. I was well aware that is was hyperbole. This board seems to major in hyperbole, in place of actual discussion.

Anyway, I agree with you on football. I'm thinking/hoping for 8-9 win season. In basketball, with what is already the 2nd best recruiting class in the AAC (before today's JUCO signing and presumably more good ones to come on board this year), I fully expect a similar win total to last year (maybe more), despite all the angst and teeth gnashing that has proliferated this site, this week.