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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
(03-19-2017 08:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:51 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  And we are planning to replace him with whom...? I'm at a loss for where this might be headed, if we lose DL and Markel etc etc etc.... and the other dude doesn't qualify

Snow, there are a ton of players out there we can get that are better than Craig. This is actually good.

Hasn't shown the ability to get them so far. What makes you think he will now?

Meanwhile in the real world, I am watching another player Iverson at Rhode Island who boy wonder ran off having a nice game, think where we would be with that guy helping out this year.

He got his panties in a wad because he was punished for violating team rules and left. Am sure he either cleaned up his act at RI or he would have been suspended there also. He was at least two years older and with it come maturity. Nichols didn't clean up his act and where is he now????

He was looking at a logjam at his position and playing time was a factor.

BTW he is only averaging 5 points a game more than he did here and was most likely NOT going to beat out Dedric for playing time.

Outside of rebounding his stats the last two years per minute played were not as good as when he was here.

^THIS^
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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 05:55 PM)smytiger Wrote:  [quote='TubbyTime' pid='14194092' dateline='1489963538']
This is great news. If Craig was Doom, or Burks, or Mingo Johnson, or CDR, or Antonio Anderson, or Vincent Askew this would be terrible news. But Craig isn't anything like those guys, so now we have the opportunity to fill the spot with a player who can stick the ball in the hole. I wish him well and hope he does great and is very successful in his life. This is good for us.
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It will be good only if they fill the scholarship. As of rightnow I would have to say we will see Randell in 2 years with some team playing in the tourney while we are all talking about missing the post season 5 straight seasons.

What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

Really?

Jermiah Martin is a better 3 point shooter percentage wise for their careers
Martin 28.6%
Randle 26.2%

And Randle was only marginally better this past season
Martin 28.2%
Randle 28.8%

Can't really consider either one a guy who can hit 3s.
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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 05:55 PM)smytiger Wrote:  [quote='TubbyTime' pid='14194092' dateline='1489963538']
This is great news. If Craig was Doom, or Burks, or Mingo Johnson, or CDR, or Antonio Anderson, or Vincent Askew this would be terrible news. But Craig isn't anything like those guys, so now we have the opportunity to fill the spot with a player who can stick the ball in the hole. I wish him well and hope he does great and is very successful in his life. This is good for us.
[/

It will be good only if they fill the scholarship. As of rightnow I would have to say we will see Randell in 2 years with some team playing in the tourney while we are all talking about missing the post season 5 straight seasons.

What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

Iverson, the guy the ACC COY pushed out.
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(03-19-2017 08:02 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:59 PM)Blackman Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:51 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  Snow, there are a ton of players out there we can get that are better than Craig. This is actually good.

Hasn't shown the ability to get them so far. What makes you think he will now?

Meanwhile in the real world, I am watching another player Iverson at Rhode Island who boy wonder ran off having a nice game, wonder where we would be with that guy helping out this year.

I come here to laugh at people who NOW try to act like Opie didn't ruin the program or run off good players.

Tubby may or may not be able to get the job done. I am willing to give him a year or so to find out.
But I can not in good conscious blame him for players that Pastner recruited leaving when Pastner couldn't keep his own recruits.

Ever think it was something besides Pastner?

Up until about the 20th transfer in 7 years.

Any other questions?
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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
Usually don't like losing players. Teams average about 2 of these a year these days, but I typically don't like it all the same. And I don't especially like losing Randall. But honestly it's not a big loss. There are 3-star HS guys out there who have much higher upside. Keon has higher upside.

Agree that it's on the staff to fill out the roster, and that's one more slot. If this is another post-season discussion with the staff where it's not a good fit - kudos to both sides for handling it well and making tough decisions. Good news: You've got another scholly available for better potential. Risk: You got to fill the extra scholly.
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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
(03-19-2017 08:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 05:55 PM)smytiger Wrote:  [quote='TubbyTime' pid='14194092' dateline='1489963538']
This is great news. If Craig was Doom, or Burks, or Mingo Johnson, or CDR, or Antonio Anderson, or Vincent Askew this would be terrible news. But Craig isn't anything like those guys, so now we have the opportunity to fill the spot with a player who can stick the ball in the hole. I wish him well and hope he does great and is very successful in his life. This is good for us.
[/

It will be good only if they fill the scholarship. As of rightnow I would have to say we will see Randell in 2 years with some team playing in the tourney while we are all talking about missing the post season 5 straight seasons.

What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

Iverson, the guy the ACC COY pushed out.

See post #60 ----team rules.
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(03-19-2017 08:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

Iverson, the guy the ACC COY pushed out.

See post #60 ----team rules.

RRR
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(03-19-2017 08:57 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

Iverson, the guy the ACC COY pushed out.

See post #60 ----team rules.

RRR

I haven't a clue what that means--other than a stock meaning--and I don't think you meant that. I bet I won't like it though LOL .
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I always thought RRR was just about bunny rabbits.
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(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 05:55 PM)smytiger Wrote:  [quote='TubbyTime' pid='14194092' dateline='1489963538']
This is great news. If Craig was Doom, or Burks, or Mingo Johnson, or CDR, or Antonio Anderson, or Vincent Askew this would be terrible news. But Craig isn't anything like those guys, so now we have the opportunity to fill the spot with a player who can stick the ball in the hole. I wish him well and hope he does great and is very successful in his life. This is good for us.
[/

It will be good only if they fill the scholarship. As of rightnow I would have to say we will see Randell in 2 years with some team playing in the tourney while we are all talking about missing the post season 5 straight seasons.

What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

I wish him good luck. But he certainly isn't a difference maker. I'd rather have the scholarship...
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RE: Craig Randall not returning...Tubby now has 3
(03-19-2017 08:44 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:51 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:29 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  And we are planning to replace him with whom...? I'm at a loss for where this might be headed, if we lose DL and Markel etc etc etc.... and the other dude doesn't qualify

Snow, there are a ton of players out there we can get that are better than Craig. This is actually good.

Hasn't shown the ability to get them so far. What makes you think he will now?

Meanwhile in the real world, I am watching another player Iverson at Rhode Island who boy wonder ran off having a nice game, think where we would be with that guy helping out this year.

He got his panties in a wad because he was punished for violating team rules and left. Am sure he either cleaned up his act at RI or he would have been suspended there also. He was at least two years older and with it come maturity. Nichols didn't clean up his act and where is he now????

He was looking at a logjam at his position and playing time was a factor.

BTW he is only averaging 5 points a game more than he did here and was most likely NOT going to beat out Dedric for playing time.

Outside of rebounding his stats the last two years per minute played were not as good as when he was here.


Found this from Gottlieb Twwet on Iverson who had 19 yesterday

KI has improved as much in terms of daily habits as any player Danny Hurley has coached. Didn't play at Memphis cause he was a knucklehead
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(03-19-2017 08:50 PM)Blackman Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

Really?
Jermiah Martin is a better 3 point shooter percentage wise for their careers
Martin 28.6%
Randle 26.2%

And Randle was only marginally better this past season
Martin 28.2%
Randle 28.8%

Can't really consider either one a guy who can hit 3s.

When you don't have a PG to set you up and maybe the worst passing team in Memphis history, it's hard for shooters to get their spots or open shots.
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(03-19-2017 10:25 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:50 PM)Blackman Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 06:05 PM)smytiger Wrote:  Just like Kuran Iverson.

WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

Really?
Jermiah Martin is a better 3 point shooter percentage wise for their careers
Martin 28.6%
Randle 26.2%

And Randle was only marginally better this past season
Martin 28.2%
Randle 28.8%

Can't really consider either one a guy who can hit 3s.

When you don't have a PG to set you up and maybe the worst passing team in Memphis history, it's hard for shooters to get their spots or open shots.

Can't disagree with you on this, but Randle just isn't an elite player. I hope he kills it at his next stop, but don't think he would have had a real impact here.
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(03-19-2017 10:30 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 10:25 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:50 PM)Blackman Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

Really?
Jermiah Martin is a better 3 point shooter percentage wise for their careers
Martin 28.6%
Randle 26.2%

And Randle was only marginally better this past season
Martin 28.2%
Randle 28.8%

Can't really consider either one a guy who can hit 3s.

When you don't have a PG to set you up and maybe the worst passing team in Memphis history, it's hard for shooters to get their spots or open shots.

Can't disagree with you on this, but Randle just isn't an elite player. I hope he kills it at his next stop, but don't think he would have had a real impact here.

Bingo!
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(03-19-2017 10:30 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 10:25 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:50 PM)Blackman Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 08:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-19-2017 07:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  WHO ?

TT again with a dumb azz post. Tubby has proven over last SIX YEARS he is not going to recruit any impact players. We will get another unranked, Manhattan recruited or Keon/Randall/Chad type player who are not high D1 players. Randall has shown he can hit 3s. Role player off the bench who has a year under Tubbys system.

Really?
Jermiah Martin is a better 3 point shooter percentage wise for their careers
Martin 28.6%
Randle 26.2%

And Randle was only marginally better this past season
Martin 28.2%
Randle 28.8%

Can't really consider either one a guy who can hit 3s.

When you don't have a PG to set you up and maybe the worst passing team in Memphis history, it's hard for shooters to get their spots or open shots.

Can't disagree with you on this, but Randle just isn't an elite player. I hope he kills it at his next stop, but don't think he would have had a real impact here.

Who thinks Tubby will get an impact player in his place? Based on 6 years of history you would say no.
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(03-19-2017 05:55 PM)smytiger Wrote:  [quote='TubbyTime' pid='14194092' dateline='1489963538']
This is great news. If Craig was Doom, or Burks, or Mingo Johnson, or CDR, or Antonio Anderson, or Vincent Askew this would be terrible news. But Craig isn't anything like those guys, so now we have the opportunity to fill the spot with a player who can stick the ball in the hole. I wish him well and hope he does great and is very successful in his life. This is good for us.
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It will be good only if they fill the scholarship. As of rightnow I would have to say we will see Randell in 2 years with some team playing in the tourney while we are all talking about missing the post season 5 straight seasons.

What tourney caliber team wants Randall? He going to go the route of Damien Wilson

Just like Kuran Iverson.

Kuran isn't Tubby's fault.
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I hope Randall pans out like some of you guys are acting like he will. Dude was ranked #200
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This is plainly addition by subtraction.
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When Tubby runs off a true contributor that he reruited then you have a story.

We are nowhere near that point
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