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RE: Rumor-UConn and Cincy to ACC in 2018?
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

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The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
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(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.
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(03-29-2017 09:24 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.

For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.
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(03-29-2017 07:09 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Texas population is closer to 23 mil and yeah go ahead take the longhorns ... please, then Houston will take their place in the b12

I believe he was referring to households, not people.
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(03-29-2017 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:24 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.

For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.

Wasn't that around the time that the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore & became the Ravens?
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(03-29-2017 09:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:24 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.

For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.

Wasn't that around the time that the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore & became the Ravens?

I was thinking baseball.

I'm wrong on this one. Sorry, I was in ... left field!
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(03-29-2017 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:09 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Texas population is closer to 23 mil and yeah go ahead take the longhorns ... please, then Houston will take their place in the b12

I believe he was referring to households, not people.

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(03-29-2017 09:52 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.

I was thinking baseball.

I'm wrong on this one. Sorry, I was in ... left field!
You were, in fact, in the wrong stadium entirely...

We might add WVU in the Big XII, Colorado in the Pac-12, and even Maryland in the B1G as examples of what college programs will do if the price is right.
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(03-20-2017 08:43 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  I would be ok with this:

Texas, Houston or TCU, ND, Louisville, Miami, Cincinnati

FSU, Clemson, NC State, WF, BC, Syracuse

NC, VT, Duke, Virginia, Pittsburgh, GT

If the Big 12 does ultimately blow up, the ACC will need to be prepared to take advantage.

I agree that it is unlikely that Texas ends up in the ACC. However, it is a possibility specifically because the ACC can offer a Notre Dame type deal. It seems extremely unlikely that the SEC, P12 or B1G would be willing to do the same.

I think the more likely scenario is Texas, OU and 2 of 3 from Kansas, TTU and Ok.St. to the Pac 12. A move like this came very close to happening twice in the last round of realignment.

If this did happen, the ACC should seriously consider adding one or two Texas schools. For instance, adding TCU and Houston would put the ACC in two of the top ten television markets in the country (DFW and Houston), with combined TV HH of over 5 million. This would be a potentially huge addition for the ACCN.
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(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

add archrival a&m to the list ...
the big12 expatriate joined a southeastern conference with member states: kentucky, florida, georgia, south carolina ...
vaguely familiar ...

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(03-29-2017 09:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:24 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 01:42 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Texas will never join the ACC!

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.

For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.

Wasn't that around the time that the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore & became the Ravens?

Nah, the football Cardinals moved to Arizona in 1988. The Browns didn't become the Ravens until 1996.
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I repeat, Texas will never join the ACC! 07-coffee3
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(03-29-2017 02:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I repeat, Texas will never join the ACC! 07-coffee3

Very true... Pipe dream.
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(03-29-2017 02:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I repeat, Texas will never join the ACC! 07-coffee3

Probably not in the remainder of my lifetime. Same is true of Penn State. And again, within the remainder of my lifetime, the same might also be said of Notre Dame joining the ACC as a full member.

Still, at this point, what would be the pressing need for the ACC to add anyone other than ND, Texas, or PSU?

Of the realistic candidates (listed alphabetically) - Cincinnati, Connecticut, West Virginia - what would be the driving forces that would prompt ACC expansion with any of them? ACCN? Losing current member(s) to SEC or B1G? Football? Basketball?

Under the current conditions with the ACC being Top 3 in both football and basketball, with an ACCN about to launch without any of the three realistic expansion candidates, with the massive headache of scheduling in both major sports with 14/15 members as is, expansion only makes sense if the target is a quality get.

So, until either the landscape changes again and/or ND, Texas, or PSU joins (or joins fully in the case of the Irish), the ACC will remain as is.

It's going to be a dull summer on these boards. 03-lmfao

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(03-29-2017 01:23 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:33 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 09:24 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 07:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  The Colts will never leave Baltimore...
The Cardinals will never leave St. Louis
Which city is it that the Rams play in again?

The Raiders will never leave Oakland for Los Angeles
The Raiders would never return to Oakland
The Raiders would never leave Oakland again for Las Vegas


When people start opening wallets, the word "never" seems to disappear.04-cheers

I don't think that the Cards will leave STL. I'm also pretty sure you meant the Rams, but I love delicious irony.

For those with short memories, the Cardinals did, indeed, leave St. Louis - for Arizona.

Wasn't that around the time that the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore & became the Ravens?

Nah, the football Cardinals moved to Arizona in 1988. The Browns didn't become the Ravens until 1996.

St Louis seems to be something of a pit stop for major league franchises. The St Louis Browns (who started out as the Milwaukee Brewers) moved on to become the Baltimore Orioles. The football Cardinals started out in Chicago and later moved to Phoenix. The Rams, of course, were the complete pit stop, moving first to St Louis from LA and then back again. The NBA Hawks moved to St Louis in 1955 from Milwaukee, then on to Atlanta in the late 60's.

That city has shrunk considerably from its glory days. Will it continue to be big enough to support its NHL franchise?
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With the growing revenue gap of SEC/B1G, you are much more likely to see Texas (OU, and other power programs not in those conferences) to join those two conferences.

There will be a P2 and then mid majors. $$$$ gap is getting very real.
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(03-29-2017 02:34 PM)omniorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 02:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I repeat, Texas will never join the ACC! 07-coffee3

Probably not in the remainder of my lifetime. Same is true of Penn State. And again, within the remainder of my lifetime, the same might also be said of Notre Dame joining the ACC as a full member.

Still, at this point, what would be the pressing need for the ACC to add anyone other than ND, Texas, or PSU?

Of the realistic candidates (listed alphabetically) - Cincinnati, Connecticut, West Virginia - what would be the driving forces that would prompt ACC expansion with any of them? ACCN? Losing current member(s) to SEC or B1G? Football? Basketball?

Under the current conditions with the ACC being Top 3 in both football and basketball, with an ACCN about to launch without any of the three realistic expansion candidates, with the massive headache of scheduling in both major sports with 14/15 members as is, expansion only makes sense if the target is a quality get.

So, until either the landscape changes again and/or ND, Texas, or PSU joins (or joins fully in the case of the Irish), the ACC will remain as is.

It's going to be a dull summer on these boards. 03-lmfao

Cheers,
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That's a very good question. My answer would be the same as yours. It would take a major change in the landscape to drive us past the current membership.
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(03-29-2017 02:43 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 02:34 PM)omniorange Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 02:11 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I repeat, Texas will never join the ACC! 07-coffee3

Probably not in the remainder of my lifetime. Same is true of Penn State. And again, within the remainder of my lifetime, the same might also be said of Notre Dame joining the ACC as a full member.

Cheers,
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My answer would be the same as yours. It would take a major change in the landscape to drive us past the current membership.

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(03-29-2017 02:42 PM)nole Wrote:  With the growing revenue gap of SEC/B1G, you are much more likely to see Texas join those two conferences.

in all likelihood Texas can keep the Longhorn Network and its revenue ($15 million per year for 20 years) by going to the ACC
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(03-29-2017 03:34 PM)green Wrote:  
(03-29-2017 02:42 PM)nole Wrote:  With the growing revenue gap of SEC/B1G, you are much more likely to see Texas join those two conferences.

in all likelihood Texas can keep the Longhorn Network and its revenue ($15 million per year for 20 years) by going to the ACC
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I believe this is the one thing many posters and some reporters say but don't realize that the likelihood of it happening is very remote, especially if the ACCN is a success without the state of Texas.

If Texas joins in full, the ACCN theoretically gets all of their conference sports. Imagine the outrage that would take place if by the time Texas joins, the ACCN already has the majority of subscribers in the state of Florida but then the ACC gives Texas all of the $$$ from Texas subscribers? Does anyone believe that will sit well with FSU and/or Miami?

It is possible I suppose the ACC could offer Texas more $$$ out of the ACCN pot than any other team based upon some type of payout system where percentage of state subscribers is taken into account. But then that opens up a different can of worms with the state of North Carolina and there being 4 teams from that state.

Now, if Texas joins with an ND type deal I could see their current LHN TV contract going away and being replaced by a football only deal open to other networks to bid on, similar to ND's NBC contract. That by itself will likely be higher than the current LHN deal.

However, in terms of the bottom line, will the Longhorns getting the same percentage of the ACCN as everyone else plus ND's percentage in terms of the basketball portion of the TV contract (which I think is 20% of the overall contract) plus that new football TV contract equal what they would get by remaining in the B12? Not to mention joining the SEC or B1G?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question. Just things to consider.

Cheers,
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