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"We don't need a new coach. He needs a new team. Maybe these same players, but a new team with a new attitude. A team of players that want to play basketball and not just sit around reading about how good they are."

There's plenty more but I have other **** to do today.
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I stand by both of those statements 100%
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LOL, Nevermind. If those are your best reference material to back up your statement, maybe you should have capitulated from the start. Have a good day and don't drink to much green beer.
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I hope and pray that BBHC Ehsan is successful over the coming seasons for a very good reason. If UAB has to replace him, what will be its bargaining position in 2019 or 2020? Chances are the school will not have invested additional money into its BB facilities by then and most fans will probably be thinking FB emphasis.

Will UAB get lucky as it did with Anderson (local ties) or Haase with good career pedigree? When a school fires a coach, it also must hire a coach and for any school at UAB's level, it is a very risky process of judging potential growth for an untried new guy.
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One shouldn't assume that a 1st year coach is bad just because his first year wasn't that great.

One shouldn't also assume that just because a coach played in the NBA & even was a player/coach there that he would be a great college basketball coach.
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(03-17-2017 12:43 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  LOL, Nevermind. If those are your best reference material to back up your statement, maybe you should have capitulated from the start. Have a good day and don't drink to much green beer.

For real. Those don't even come close to saying what was said. And I agree with MB on both those statements. We hired a brand new head coach because that is what our boosters asked for. Brand new coaches make rookie mistakes. He addressed his flaws this year, so maybe he will actually work on correcting them. But hey if you want to labe him a failure, by all means do so.

It was an extremely frustrating year, but the blame should be spread around. It's not all on Ehsan.
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Please........ Lol

I agree with BnA
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You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.
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(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.

So WHAT IF UAB finishes second or third in our one bid league the next two years? As i see it, unless we get a pleasant surprise in a big man or / and shooter, we will not have the guns to finish at the top for an auto bid. How many seasons of "close but no cigar" will be too many?
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(03-17-2017 05:19 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.

So WHAT IF UAB finishes second or third in our one bid league the next two years? As i see it, unless we get a pleasant surprise in a big man or / and shooter, we will not have the guns to finish at the top for an auto bid. How many seasons of "close but no cigar" will be too many?

I'm assuming we add at least one ready to go player for next year. If that player is a shooter or a decent big man, I think we have the talent and experience to expect to win the conference and/or make the big dance. In our 25th-ish ranked league, that's not too much to expect.
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(03-17-2017 05:52 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:19 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.

So WHAT IF UAB finishes second or third in our one bid league the next two years? As i see it, unless we get a pleasant surprise in a big man or / and shooter, we will not have the guns to finish at the top for an auto bid. How many seasons of "close but no cigar" will be too many?

I'm assuming we add at least one ready to go player for next year. If that player is a shooter or a decent big man, I think we have the talent and experience to expect to win the conference and/or make the big dance. In our 25th-ish ranked league, that's not too much to expect.

We can win 30 games and not be in. The conference has to get better or its tournament or bust every year. I think we need to recognize that fact and get used to it for now. Last year is seen as a failure simply because we lost a cusa tournament game.
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(03-17-2017 07:50 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:52 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:19 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.

So WHAT IF UAB finishes second or third in our one bid league the next two years? As i see it, unless we get a pleasant surprise in a big man or / and shooter, we will not have the guns to finish at the top for an auto bid. How many seasons of "close but no cigar" will be too many?

I'm assuming we add at least one ready to go player for next year. If that player is a shooter or a decent big man, I think we have the talent and experience to expect to win the conference and/or make the big dance. In our 25th-ish ranked league, that's not too much to expect.

We can win 30 games and not be in. The conference has to get better or its tournament or bust every year. I think we need to recognize that fact and get used to it for now. Last year is seen as a failure simply because we lost a cusa tournament game.

We also played a soft schedule and lost to some bad teams OOC.
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To start we need to win the games we are supposed to win!!! We cannot lose to the F_Us of the world. 2nd, we need to win and be dominant at home. And 3rd, we need to win some of the games we are not supposed to win, especially on the road.
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(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.



And they say Davis was the worst tournament coach. Umm no that would be Haase outside of one magical year lol. And what coach in their first year got swept by FIU.
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(03-17-2017 08:45 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  To start we need to win the games we are supposed to win!!! We cannot lose to the F_Us of the world. 2nd, we need to win and be dominant at home. And 3rd, we need to win some of the games we are not supposed to win, especially on the road.

I agree. Unfortunately there are so many bad teams(200+RPI) on our schedule every year that chances are good that we will lose to some of them. And yes we not only have to play big time opponents but playing them is not enough. We have to occasionally beat one.
Stating the obvious I realize.
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(03-17-2017 08:41 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 07:50 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:52 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 05:19 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.

So WHAT IF UAB finishes second or third in our one bid league the next two years? As i see it, unless we get a pleasant surprise in a big man or / and shooter, we will not have the guns to finish at the top for an auto bid. How many seasons of "close but no cigar" will be too many?

I'm assuming we add at least one ready to go player for next year. If that player is a shooter or a decent big man, I think we have the talent and experience to expect to win the conference and/or make the big dance. In our 25th-ish ranked league, that's not too much to expect.

We can win 30 games and not be in. The conference has to get better or its tournament or bust every year. I think we need to recognize that fact and get used to it for now. Last year is seen as a failure simply because we lost a cusa tournament game.

We also played a soft schedule and lost to some bad teams OOC.

We also went 16-2 in conference and won the conference going away. How upset would anybody be if that's what Ehsan did in conference?
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(03-18-2017 11:32 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.



And they say Davis was the worst tournament coach. Umm no that would be Haase outside of one magical year lol. And what coach in their first year got swept by FIU.
You can't go "No, this coach was the worst outside of that year he won it all and a tournament game against a #3 seed!" Lol, how does that argument even work



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(03-18-2017 11:32 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.



And they say Davis was the worst tournament coach. Umm no that would be Haase outside of one magical year lol. And what coach in their first year got swept by FIU.

hahahahhaa
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(03-18-2017 06:25 PM)Shrack Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 11:32 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.



And they say Davis was the worst tournament coach. Umm no that would be Haase outside of one magical year lol. And what coach in their first year got swept by FIU.
You can't go "No, this coach was the worst outside of that year he won it all and a tournament game against a #3 seed!" Lol, how does that argument even work



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One can hang is hat on a final four appearance as a HC.

Who has the highest winning percentage at UaB usually does it for some. Lol

Or things like last ranking appearance, number of guys drafted, top 25 wins, top 50 wins , maybe apr, or even Power5 wins for some.

Best school record got broken by a soft record but that too.
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(03-18-2017 07:23 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  
(03-18-2017 11:32 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 04:03 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  You can't absolutely judge him off of one year, but you can start to draw conclusions. Compare what G. Bartow, Anderson, and Bill Clark showed us in their first two years (one for Clark) to what Watson Brown, Callaway, McGee, M. Bartow, and Mike Davis did in their first couple of seasons. You could make an argument to include Haase in the latter group, as he only feasted on a terrible schedule, mostly lost to all high quality teams/tournaments that we played in, and hung his hat on what's looking to be a fluke tourney run in 2015.. However, I think he turned into a decent, not great, coach after four years here, so it'd be a bit unfair to include him in the latter group. He was also a good recruiter and program manager, so that gets him some brownie points.

allll that to say basically that the really good ones typically show you something in year one and especially by year two. We'd need a conference championship and/or a tourney appearance with a win next year to erase the disaster that was this season.



And they say Davis was the worst tournament coach. Umm no that would be Haase outside of one magical year lol. And what coach in their first year got swept by FIU.

hahahahhaa


Getting swept by FIU is hahahahhaa. And the best season ever being topped wit an nit appearance
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