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Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
http://footballscoop.com/news/mountain-w...line-only/

I would be for this if it meant we could play our football games on Saturdays and rebuild our fan base. Interesting idea.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
(03-15-2017 10:59 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  http://footballscoop.com/news/mountain-w...line-only/

I would be for this if it meant we could play our football games on Saturdays and rebuild our fan base. Interesting idea.

Minus some of the really late tip times. this is the same thing the MAC needs to be looking at. That and football games that go over four hours.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
Maybe "black-out" our home games like Bill Wirtz did the Blackhawk games back in the day......
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I can only wish the MAC would do something like this. Cable television packages will be extinct in the next 10 years I believe. It will all be online streaming and pay as you go channels.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
(03-15-2017 12:00 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Maybe "black-out" our home games like Bill Wirtz did the Blackhawk games back in the day......


No one should ever do anything like Bill Wirtz did.
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Amen and kudos to the mountain west! Hope The mac and mac ADs see this story. Enough is enough. The up front money to pay the salaries for front office and ADs is not worth the trade off of having no fans left
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(03-15-2017 12:00 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Maybe "black-out" our home games like Bill Wirtz did the Blackhawk games back in the day......

The bigger deal than access on tv is just the fact we don't have the fanbase anymore. We have shot ourselves in the foot driving away fans. That is why I get so angry when fans are blamed, it's like someone whining and yelling "my foot is bleeding and hurts!" Yes because you shot yourself in the foot!
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Too bad the MAC doesn't have a commissioner like the MWC and the MAC schools don't have their ADs. Our conference and individual school leadership seems content with giving up our Saturday games and alienating our fan bases so we can be on ESPN3.com on Tuesday.
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For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.
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(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.
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(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
(03-15-2017 03:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.

If that happens, I will be pleasantly surprised. It has yet to happen to date though and the schedule gets worse every year.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Well in the sense that the President is the boss of the AD, I guess that is technically right, but as Huskietap22 mentioned, it is the passive nature of the ADs and leadership in this conference that has put us where we are at. If every institution and every school President and AD would have said they didn't want this to happen, it wouldn't be so. Time to own the problem, because if not owned, nothing will get fixed
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(03-15-2017 03:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.

Yeah don't let him sell you that, its semantics, the individual ADs have let this conference down in a huge huge huge way. Maybe the Mountain West awakening as to what is happening will cause pressure to be put on the top elites in conferences like the MAC that they need to put getting their big salary paid off first maybe as 2nd priority to the athletic program.
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(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.

If that happens, I will be pleasantly surprised. It has yet to happen to date though and the schedule gets worse every year.

The presidents need to be so sick of hearing about this issue that when they do have a chance to make a change they will hopefully jump on it.
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(03-15-2017 03:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  For the LAST TIME, the decision to not play on Saturdays has NOTHING to do with any of the ADs in the MAC. It is coming from the Commissioner and Presidents of each individual school.

How many times does this have to reiterated?

So the school Presidents don't take recommendations from the ADs leading their athletic departments and just do whatever they want? I have a hard time thinking the ADs play no role.
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(03-15-2017 03:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.

If that happens, I will be pleasantly surprised. It has yet to happen to date though and the schedule gets worse every year.

The presidents need to be so sick of hearing about this issue that when they do have a chance to make a change they will hopefully jump on it.

Its really the ADs that have the Presidents ear though. The pressure needs to be put on Frazier and other MAC ADs for anything to happen. Than again, our fearless AD wants us to go to FCS, so not sure that will do any good either
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(03-15-2017 03:57 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:51 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:37 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(03-15-2017 03:18 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  Since snoopy did call out the commissioner, this needs to be reiterated over and over again and again until they understand that there is a strong fan base that is being alienated from coming to games that are not played on Saturday. Furthermore, the decision not to play on Saturday may have nothing to do with the ADs, but the solution to push back to Saturdays can certainly start with them.

It may start with them but it will end right there. A few MAC ADs have already come out indicating their disgust with the scheduling. Does that change anything? No.

It's a quick and easy money grab for the conference and they could give two sh*ts about what the ADs of each school thinks, let alone our personal opinions.

Fine - we still need to let the ADs know. And the ADs can let the Presidents know. If the Presidents don't do anything about it, at least they can't claim ignorance of the state of the fans' loyalty or possible loss of it.

If that happens, I will be pleasantly surprised. It has yet to happen to date though and the schedule gets worse every year.

The presidents need to be so sick of hearing about this issue that when they do have a chance to make a change they will hopefully jump on it.

+1 We all need to be inundating Pres. Baker , STF, MAC commish, anybody & everybody we can scream at with emails, phone calls whatever it takes.
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RE: Mountain West considers leaving traditional TV
Did any NIU fans actually bother to read this article? A large portion of the problems the MWC refers to is with basketball scheduling

You can't compare the MWC with the MAC situation. The Mountain West plays in major markets; Las Vegas, Albuquerque, San Diego, Fresno, San Jose, etc. They have the ability to draw larger crowds than the schools from the MAC conference. They are also on the west coast, meaning all televised games air two or three hours later in the midwest and east coast, which means less eyes on games. Craig Thompson postulates the revenue boost and exposure from nationally televised games isn't compensating for lost gate revenue and fan inconvenience. He's probably correct.

It is very dissimiliar from the MAC situation, however.

The ESPN contract offers each school close to one million annually. MAC schools are not making that up with bigger gate if the games were more conveniently scheduled. With all the nonsense Huskie fans continue to post, I have yet to see anyone offer a salient way these schools will make up that lost revenue should the MAC opt out of the ESPN deal.

The MAC got lucky signing their new lucrative deal when they did. Check out Conference USA, if you will.

Continuing on, how do you think NIU became good and remained good for many years? How do you think they opened the Florida pipeline for recruiting that has been crucial to success? Does anyone really think NIU would have ever played in the Orange Bowl if it were not for ESPN and the MACtion branding?

Good grief. I've never known NIU fans to be so blind. None of you are looking at the big picture.
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