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Tubby's post UCF interview - end of season
Having watched the video I'm more convinced than ever that Tubby is coasting:

The one thing he touched on that's new information is that he did t really put the existing players on a strength program immediately. He said 'we need bigger, stronger players' and then alluded to the fact he that he took awhile to bring in a strength and conditioning coach.

So (a) wtf did he have his team doing and (b) none of his regular staff can oversee an offseason weight room program?

Let's recap:

Tubby gets hired reasonably quickly after the end of last season.

Tubby comes in and doesn't immediately take the reins with his existing players and put them on a strenuous off season program

Tubby really doesn't go balls to the wall in an effort to add meaningful players to the roster.

Tubby then runs his core 4 into the ground agsinst a slaw OOC schedule and then his team takes a late season nose dive and basically quits on him.

Tubby publically complains about the fans expectations for the program when he said at the beginning of the season that he expected this team to make the post season.

The season ends with a 40 and a 30 point loss. The best player is probably leaving and Tubby, to date, has a very, very average recruiting class coming in.

I don't know, I just do t see Tubby as anything like the answer to fixing this dumpster fire.
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03-11-2017 08:18 AM
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A return to the NCAA Tourney next season does not seem realistic at this point and hope is in short supply. Nevertheless, I will buy season tickets, attend games when possible (I live in Nashville) and hunker down while awaiting better times.
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(03-11-2017 08:24 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A return to the NCAA Tourney next season does not seem realistic at this point and hope is in short supply. Nevertheless, I will buy season tickets, attend games when possible (I live in Nashville) and hunker down while awaiting better times.

It's hard to see a great way forward. Talent on our roster leaving and not much coming in to replace in and tubby not exactly lighting it on fire recruiting.
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(03-11-2017 08:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:24 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A return to the NCAA Tourney next season does not seem realistic at this point and hope is in short supply. Nevertheless, I will buy season tickets, attend games when possible (I live in Nashville) and hunker down while awaiting better times.

It's hard to see a great way forward. Talent on our roster leaving and not much coming in to replace in and tubby not exactly lighting it on fire recruiting.

Yep. What's his plan? He didn't develop ANY depth / bench this season.

We all know that, except for very special exceptions, freshmen don't generally contribute all that much. It's a learning year for them.

Even most jucos don't set the world on fire their first year.

I think next year will end up being what this year could and should have been.

Tubby just basically took the year off.
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I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.
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I'm convinced that he has lost his passion for coaching. It's gonna take a lot more than what he did to get us where we want and need to be. He just doesn't have enough at this stage in his career to get it done. He is on slow cruise control.
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(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.
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Let's see what the recruits bring to the table next season. Assuming we lose only DL, I'm actually cautiously optimistic that we'll see an improvement next year. I don't believe Tubby is coasting or that he's lost his passion for coaching. He's never been a big rah-rah guy. Doesn't mean he doesn't care. I'm all for giving him a year or two grace period to analyze what he has, fix it, and move forward.
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(03-11-2017 08:57 AM)Hoots Wrote:  Let's see what the recruits bring to the table next season. Assuming we lose only DL, I'm actually cautiously optimistic that we'll see an improvement next year. I don't believe Tubby is coasting or that he's lost his passion for coaching. He's never been a big rah-rah guy. Doesn't mean he doesn't care. I'm all for giving him a year or two grace period to analyze what he has, fix it, and move forward.

So from solidly out of the NIT to maybe an NIT bubble team or 5-6 NIT SEED?

You'd be good with that?
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(03-11-2017 08:34 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:30 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:24 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A return to the NCAA Tourney next season does not seem realistic at this point and hope is in short supply. Nevertheless, I will buy season tickets, attend games when possible (I live in Nashville) and hunker down while awaiting better times.

It's hard to see a great way forward. Talent on our roster leaving and not much coming in to replace in and tubby not exactly lighting it on fire recruiting.

Yep. What's his plan? He didn't develop ANY depth / bench this season.

We all know that, except for very special exceptions, freshmen don't generally contribute all that much. It's a learning year for them.

Even most jucos don't set the world on fire their first year.

I think next year will end up being what this year could and should have been.

Tubby just basically took the year off.

It's almost as if-dare I say it?-tubby only planned to be here for one year.
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Today, Tubby should cut out the cancer that is in the program.
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(03-11-2017 09:46 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Today, Tubby should cut out the cancer that is in the program.

And who might that be, Daddy?
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(03-11-2017 09:46 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Today, Tubby should cut out the cancer that is in the program.

I don't think he's going to resign.
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Very disappointed with the performance over the last third of the season. Extremely disappointed with the last two games.

That being said, when I look at the difference between the depth and experience we started with this year vs what's projected for next year, I'm not seeing "no improvement." We had five returning scholarship players this year who had played a total of 2520 minutes the year before. One was a red shirt who only played in 10 games, but he was still one of the best returning players because he had actually started a game. Only two of the others had.

Next year we have seven returning scholarship players, five of whom were starters (either Chad or Jimario started every game plus three of the other four starters) who played 4962 minutes this season. And the three we have on deck look better than the one who showed up to play from the previous early signing period.

I'm sure the usual suspects will show up with their coulda, woulda, shoulda's, but those are the actual numbers marking depth and experience. We may not do as well without Dedric -- I don't know (I know we've done better several times this year with him on the bench), but we're definitely going to start next season with more depth and experience than we did this one.
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(03-11-2017 08:47 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.

It can get better if we see the awesome Markel we saw in some games this season all season long, if Martin develops a jump shot and develops his off hand and KJ develops a reliable 3 point shot.

Guard play can win this league if you have bigs who can defend.
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(03-11-2017 12:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:47 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.

It can get better if we see the awesome Markel we saw in some games this season all season long, if Martin develops a jump shot and develops his off hand and KJ develops a reliable 3 point shot.

Guard play can win this league if you have bigs who can defend.

Whole lot of "If's" there.
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(03-11-2017 12:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:47 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.

It can get better if we see the awesome Markel we saw in some games this season all season long, if Martin develops a jump shot and develops his off hand and KJ develops a reliable 3 point shot.

Guard play can win this league if you have bigs who can defend.

Over the years I've learned to the that once you get to three 'ifs' you are wishing in one hand and shitting in the other.

If DL cones back you have a stud to build around and the Tigers should expect to make the NIT and be a bubble NCAA team. If he leaves then you still have poor guard play to deal with and will be counting on a bunch of freshmen / jucos / grad transfers for depth and production. Not happening.

Yo can't even call this year a rebuilding year because ole Tubs did have any freshmen on the roster to get experience. He just took a year off and set the program back another year because he was lazy.
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(03-11-2017 12:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:47 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.

It can get better if we see the awesome Markel we saw in some games this season all season long, if Martin develops a jump shot and develops his off hand and KJ develops a reliable 3 point shot.

Guard play can win this league if you have bigs who can defend.

Didnt KJ lead the team in 3%? I know he did at one point.
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We have to trust the coach
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(03-11-2017 01:13 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 12:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:47 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(03-11-2017 08:35 AM)Trapper John Wrote:  I think we are seeing a return to normalcy. Not a great year, but it may serve as a stabilizing year. No mid year transfers, no game suspensions, minimal drama from within the team. Very disappointing the last quarter of the year, but the team did look solid when everyone was playing together. Hopefully Coach can build on the positives and teach with the negatives.

You're likely losing your first team all conference forward and replacing him with a freshman or a one year rental? I doubt the team is better next year if DL goes.

It can get better if we see the awesome Markel we saw in some games this season all season long, if Martin develops a jump shot and develops his off hand and KJ develops a reliable 3 point shot.

Guard play can win this league if you have bigs who can defend.

Didnt KJ lead the team in 3%? I know he did at one point.

Nope...But even if he did that is like be the tallest midget.

He hit 22 for the year...And teams quit guarding him
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