our fan base is not being unfair with tubby. Ya know, we have our own flavor of expectations. Fans are expecting this coach to build a program. Fans are hopeful that a high salaried coach with a national championship ring will get this job done.
I am not sure if fans are accurate in being critical of two consecutive games at the end of the season where the Tigers were not competitive and were blown off the court.

Are we accurate in thinking this is an indicator of us not building a winning program with the current staff? I just hope our flavor of expectations is not too harsh. (Turn your sarcasm meter up.)

(03-10-2017 10:30 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  our fan base is not being unfair with tubby. Ya know, we have our own flavor of expectations. Fans are expecting this coach to build a program. Fans are hopeful that a high salaried coach with a national championship ring will get this job done.
I am not sure if fans are accurate in being critical of two consecutive games at the end of the season where the Tigers were not competitive and were blown off the court.

Are we accurate in thinking this is an indicator of us not building a winning program with the current staff? I just hope our flavor of expectations is not too harsh. (Turn your sarcasm meter up.)

We know Opie left a mess

The fact it never seemed they were really trying to add to the roster bothered some

He has to make a big boy decision on Keelon

Tubster tells Keelon to take a hike he better have a hell of a recruiting class lined up or he'll get crucified.

(03-10-2017 10:30 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  our fan base is not being unfair with tubby. Ya know, we have our own flavor of expectations. Fans are expecting this coach to build a program. Fans are hopeful that a high salaried coach with a national championship ring will get this job done.
I am not sure if fans are accurate in being critical of two consecutive games at the end of the season where the Tigers were not competitive and were blown off the court.

Are we accurate in thinking this is an indicator of us not building a winning program with the current staff? I just hope our flavor of expectations is not too harsh. (Turn your sarcasm meter up.)

I think expecting the team not to roll over and die is pretty reasonable for a coach with 30+ years of experience. If tubby can't manage that then he can go coach at the Y

(03-10-2017 10:52 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Tubster tells Keelon to take a hike he better have a hell of a recruiting class lined up or he'll get crucified.

Like Jesus?

(03-10-2017 10:52 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Tubster tells Keelon to take a hike he better have a hell of a recruiting class lined up or he'll get crucified.

Takes our two best players and probably the two best rwe Curtis we'll get coming in away.

You don't have to fire him just tell him his kids will be held accountable for their actions

(03-10-2017 10:54 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 10:52 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Tubster tells Keelon to take a hike he better have a hell of a recruiting class lined up or he'll get crucified.

Like Jesus?

Figuratively, not literally.

Dedric will end up playing in Minot, ND or Serbia next year. So be it. He is soft and unmotivated. No where near an NBA quality player.

Keylon and KJ can grab a bus to Troy State for all I care. I still think KJ was over rated and uncontrolled. Pus, I think he was a mental cancer on the team.

Not sold on Tubby's ability to turn this program around but I am convinced that he needs to clean house, including some of his staff (read: son,and Keylon) and rebuild this sucker from scratch, if he has the fortitude and drive to do so. I'm not sure he has the motivation and drive to do it.

Man, there is so much wrong with this program, I don't know if it can be fixed in my lifetime.

(03-10-2017 11:46 PM)mapdude Wrote:  Dedric will end up playing in Minot, ND or Serbia next year. So be it. He is soft and unmotivated. No where near an NBA quality player.

Keylon and KJ can grab a bus to Troy State for all I care. I still think KJ was over rated and uncontrolled. Pus, I think he was a mental cancer on the team.

Not sold on Tubby's ability to turn this program around but I am convinced that he needs to clean house, including some of his staff (read: son,and Keylon) and rebuild this sucker from scratch, if he has the fortitude and drive to do so. I'm not sure he has the motivation and drive to do it.

Man, there is so much wrong with this program, I don't know if it can be fixed in my lifetime.

I don't know if he has the green light to do it.

(03-10-2017 11:57 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 11:46 PM)mapdude Wrote:  Dedric will end up playing in Minot, ND or Serbia next year. So be it. He is soft and unmotivated. No where near an NBA quality player.

Keylon and KJ can grab a bus to Troy State for all I care. I still think KJ was over rated and uncontrolled. Pus, I think he was a mental cancer on the team.

Not sold on Tubby's ability to turn this program around but I am convinced that he needs to clean house, including some of his staff (read: son,and Keylon) and rebuild this sucker from scratch, if he has the fortitude and drive to do so. I'm not sure he has the motivation and drive to do it.

Man, there is so much wrong with this program, I don't know if it can be fixed in my lifetime.

I don't know if he has the green light to do it.

That's why Marshall didn't come here

He wanted control

(03-10-2017 10:30 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  our fan base is not being unfair with tubby. Ya know, we have our own flavor of expectations. Fans are expecting this coach to build a program. Fans are hopeful that a high salaried coach with a national championship ring will get this job done.
I am not sure if fans are accurate in being critical of two consecutive games at the end of the season where the Tigers were not competitive and were blown off the court.

Are we accurate in thinking this is an indicator of us not building a winning program with the current staff? I just hope our flavor of expectations is not too harsh. (Turn your sarcasm meter up.)

(03-10-2017 10:52 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Tubster tells Keelon to take a hike he better have a hell of a recruiting class lined up or he'll get crucified.

No ****, you're doing a damn good job of that now!

(03-10-2017 11:46 PM)mapdude Wrote:  Dedric will end up playing in Minot, ND or Serbia next year. So be it. He is soft and unmotivated. No where near an NBA quality player.

Keylon and KJ can grab a bus to Troy State for all I care. I still think KJ was over rated and uncontrolled. Pus, I think he was a mental cancer on the team.

Not sold on Tubby's ability to turn this program around but I am convinced that he needs to clean house, including some of his staff (read: son,and Keylon) and rebuild this sucker from scratch, if he has the fortitude and drive to do so. I'm not sure he has the motivation and drive to do it.

Man, there is so much wrong with this program, I don't know if it can be fixed in my lifetime.

Damn good post!
Keelon and KJ need to take a hike. I said all season long Keelon was bitter and KJ is a head case. The Lawsons are overrated. I wouldn't doubt if Keelon didn't set Jason Smith up to report the story about Dedric leaving and declaring for the draft. We don't need the Lawson's. We lost by 30 freakin points with them both.

There's something I don't understand. DL has a season averaging a double-double and is voted first team all conference, and KJ is voted rookie of the year, and some say we don't need them? Hmm, interesting.

(03-11-2017 03:15 PM)wylioats Wrote:  There's something I don't understand. DL has a season averaging a double-double and is voted first team all conference, and KJ is voted rookie of the year, and some say we don't need them? Hmm, interesting.

Yeah, sounds like trolls to me.

(03-11-2017 03:15 PM)wylioats Wrote:  There's something I don't understand. DL has a season averaging a double-double and is voted first team all conference, and KJ is voted rookie of the year, and some say we don't need them? Hmm, interesting.

"Addition by subtraction" can yield a better result in basketball in a very toxic situation but "addition by addition" is a more proven method. I think more and better players should be tried first by Tubby.

(03-11-2017 03:15 PM)wylioats Wrote:  There's something I don't understand. DL has a season averaging a double-double and is voted first team all conference, and KJ is voted rookie of the year, and some say we don't need them? Hmm, interesting.

I think that's a small minority. As long as there is nothing toxic going on(any type of power play by Keelon), then we need all the Lawsons.

I would think that when you lose your last 2 games by 71 pts., they have lost leverage.

My biggest concern with this hire was he had never been a consistent top recruiter for a coach of his ability. This has baffled me since the 90’s and continues to this day.

It was obvious to me after Opie’s destruction of the program a new coach would definitely need very good recruiting skills to fill voids. Didn’t happen this season and may not next year either. Or the next or the next (ect, ect).

(03-10-2017 10:49 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 10:30 PM)roachman48 Wrote:  our fan base is not being unfair with tubby. Ya know, we have our own flavor of expectations. Fans are expecting this coach to build a program. Fans are hopeful that a high salaried coach with a national championship ring will get this job done.
I am not sure if fans are accurate in being critical of two consecutive games at the end of the season where the Tigers were not competitive and were blown off the court.

Are we accurate in thinking this is an indicator of us not building a winning program with the current staff? I just hope our flavor of expectations is not too harsh. (Turn your sarcasm meter up.)

We know Opie left a mess

The fact it never seemed they were really trying to add to the roster bothered some

He has to make a big boy decision on Keelon

Is he the one making the decision?

(03-11-2017 04:37 PM)cvilletiger Wrote:  

(03-11-2017 03:15 PM)wylioats Wrote:  There's something I don't understand. DL has a season averaging a double-double and is voted first team all conference, and KJ is voted rookie of the year, and some say we don't need them? Hmm, interesting.

I think that's a small minority. As long as there is nothing toxic going on(any type of power play by Keelon), then we need all the Lawsons.

I would think that when you lose your last 2 games by 71 pts., they have lost leverage.

Well we just lost 2 games by 71 points with both of them on the floor. Stats are nice, how about the team chemistry? How about f'in the stats and playing defense? There is obviously a cancer on the team.