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Softball question
With conference play starting up, I was looking into some stuff and am happy with the start to conference play. Current records:

South Alabama 17-3
Coastal Carolina 13-3
Louisiana 13-4
Texas State 13-4
ULM 12-6
UTA 11-8
Appalachian State 9-7
Georgia State 10-8
Georgia Southern 9-9
Troy 11-12

NCAA website doesn't show the RPI numbers and I'm not real sure where else to look. Anyone know how the SBC is stacking up in the circle this year?
03-08-2017 11:18 PM
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Wow, one losing record in the conference, and even then only one game below .500. Conference is 116-64 overall on the year, I'd assume that has to be near the top.
03-08-2017 11:22 PM
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That is my assumption too.
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(03-08-2017 11:22 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Wow, one losing record in the conference, and even then only one game below .500. Conference is 116-64 overall on the year, I'd assume that has to be near the top.

And that one losing record is mostly against tough competition. Troy has already beaten NC State and #19 Pittsburgh.
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TXST 4 losses - #2 Auburn, #25 BYU, crap loss to ACU on a weird play and UNM in a tourney where they split with them 1-1.
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(03-09-2017 01:07 AM)CatMom Wrote:  TXST 4 losses - #2 Auburn, #25 BYU, crap loss to ACU on a weird play and UNM in a tourney where they split with them 1-1.

I doubt if the belt is rated very high with only 3 teams in the top 50 RPI. the pac12 and B12 have many of the top rpi spots. as for us at uta, the mavs have wins against the cheesy teams and have been thumped by the good ones they have played. when sam clakley pitches we do well and with an all american anchoring the infield the season should be over 500.
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I'm not sure why the discrepancy with the Sun Belt's site but Coastal's website is showing an 18-3 record.

http://www.goccusports.com/sports/w-soft...sched.html
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(03-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure why the discrepancy with the Sun Belt's site but Coastal's website is showing an 18-3 record.

http://www.goccusports.com/sports/w-soft...sched.html

21 home games and the majority of them crap; that won't do any RPI favors
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RE: Softball question
(03-08-2017 11:18 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  With conference play starting up, I was looking into some stuff and am happy with the start to conference play. Current records:

South Alabama 17-3
Coastal Carolina 13-3
Louisiana 13-4
Texas State 13-4
ULM 12-6
UTA 11-8
Appalachian State 9-7
Georgia State 10-8
Georgia Southern 9-9
Troy 11-12

NCAA website doesn't show the RPI numbers and I'm not real sure where else to look. Anyone know how the SBC is stacking up in the circle this year?

The link to the NCAA site where all the polls and RPI's are listed is below.

College D1 Softball Ranking Page
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First 2016 RPI rankings were released by NCAA as of games played on 3/20/16, so I would expect their first release to Monday/Tuesday after games played on 3/19/17.
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Our series against UL has been cancelled due to inclement weather. Forecast of snow on Saturday and Sunday after it being 65 degrees today.
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(03-09-2017 01:07 AM)CatMom Wrote:  TXST 4 losses - #2 Auburn, #25 BYU, crap loss to ACU on a weird play and UNM in a tourney where they split with them 1-1.

USA's 3 losses have been to #9/#11 Alabama, #13/#14 JMU, and McNeese State. And those that know softball know that Alabama and JMU are good and McNeese is no joke.
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RE: Softball question
(03-09-2017 09:18 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure why the discrepancy with the Sun Belt's site but Coastal's website is showing an 18-3 record.

http://www.goccusports.com/sports/w-soft...sched.html

21 home games and the majority of them crap; that won't do any RPI favors

I was just correcting the record. I don't follow softball as closely as you do, we are usually decent but we are typically good at so many sports it is hard to kee up with everything.
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(03-09-2017 07:34 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 09:18 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure why the discrepancy with the Sun Belt's site but Coastal's website is showing an 18-3 record.

http://www.goccusports.com/sports/w-soft...sched.html

21 home games and the majority of them crap; that won't do any RPI favors

I was just correcting the record. I don't follow softball as closely as you do, we are usually decent but we are typically good at so many sports it is hard to kee up with everything.

Wasn't meaning to come off as something at you; just simply shocked at the schedule. Usually a road trip is sprinkled in somewhere.
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(03-09-2017 08:58 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 07:34 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 09:18 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 08:52 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure why the discrepancy with the Sun Belt's site but Coastal's website is showing an 18-3 record.

http://www.goccusports.com/sports/w-soft...sched.html

21 home games and the majority of them crap; that won't do any RPI favors

I was just correcting the record. I don't follow softball as closely as you do, we are usually decent but we are typically good at so many sports it is hard to kee up with everything.

Wasn't meaning to come off as something at you; just simply shocked at the schedule. Usually a road trip is sprinkled in somewhere.

I don't follow it closely enough to know if this is how we typically schedule or not but 21 straight home games does seem a bit much. I'm sure a lot of it is being able to leverage Myrtle Beach much like our baseball team does.
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I don't know that home/road matter for the RPI in softball like it does in baseball. The only way it would is if the Big 10 complained enough about playing on the road early in the season.
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(03-09-2017 10:50 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I don't know that home/road matter for the RPI in softball like it does in baseball. The only way it would is if the Big 10 complained enough about playing on the road early in the season.

Unless it has very recently changed, it doesn't matter.
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(03-10-2017 12:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 10:50 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I don't know that home/road matter for the RPI in softball like it does in baseball. The only way it would is if the Big 10 complained enough about playing on the road early in the season.

Unless it has very recently changed, it doesn't matter.

This is correct. Softball still uses the base formula (25% your record/50% SOS/25% Opponents SOS) with bonuses and penalties for wins vs base RPI Top 50 and losses vs 225 and below to adjust. I believe they took out bonuses when its vs a team in your conference to help curb the inflation of power conference RPIs

Baseball has the same base formula (25/50/25) but uses the home/road factors for their adjustment
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(03-10-2017 12:45 PM)wcd35 Wrote:  
(03-10-2017 12:16 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-09-2017 10:50 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  I don't know that home/road matter for the RPI in softball like it does in baseball. The only way it would is if the Big 10 complained enough about playing on the road early in the season.

Unless it has very recently changed, it doesn't matter.

This is correct. Softball still uses the base formula (25% your record/50% SOS/25% Opponents SOS) with bonuses and penalties for wins vs base RPI Top 50 and losses vs 225 and below to adjust. I believe they took out bonuses when its vs a team in your conference to help curb the inflation of power conference RPIs

Baseball has the same base formula (25/50/25) but uses the home/road factors for their adjustment

That is correct. The in-conference bonus removal was thanks to Coach Lotief and lots of data from an ex-UL graduate who is very good at statistics. This was following year after year where the Cajuns would be in the top 5 starting conference and drop out of the top 16 (and hosting) by winning all their conference games. A home/away adjustment was also proposed but was not approved.
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