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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
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(03-04-2017 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Even this year, some folks have WSU on the bubble or out unless they win Arch Madness.

Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Even this year, some folks have WSU on the bubble or out unless they win Arch Madness.

Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

I guess the KenPom stat wasn't considered since they were 10th in it. Or just like Rpi and everything else it depends on what league you are in.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-13-2017 10:04 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

I guess the KenPom stat wasn't considered since they were 10th in it. Or just like Rpi and everything else it depends on what league you are in.

They just didn't beat any teams worth a crap.

Their two best wins were vs. Illinois State and Colorado State (both NIT teams). Tulsa was their third BEST win. That is embarrassing.

They played three good teams: Michigan State, UL, and Oklahoma State and were handled by all three.

It just makes it difficult to assess a team on those standards.

If that were a blind resume or change "Wichita State" with "UAB" and no one would be clamoring for the Blazers to get in or complaining about the seed.
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(03-13-2017 10:09 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 10:04 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

I guess the KenPom stat wasn't considered since they were 10th in it. Or just like Rpi and everything else it depends on what league you are in.

They just didn't beat any teams worth a crap.

Their two best wins were vs. Illinois State and Colorado State (both NIT teams). Tulsa was their third BEST win. That is embarrassing.

They played three good teams: Michigan State, UL, and Oklahoma State and were handled by all three.

It just makes it difficult to assess a team on those standards.

If that were a blind resume or change "Wichita State" with "UAB" and no one would be clamoring for the Blazers to get in or complaining about the seed.

Who would you pick on a neutral floor right now? Wichita or Vandy?
Wichita or Marquette? Wichita or South Carolina? Wichita or Seton Hall?
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(03-13-2017 10:37 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 10:09 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 10:04 AM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

I guess the KenPom stat wasn't considered since they were 10th in it. Or just like Rpi and everything else it depends on what league you are in.

They just didn't beat any teams worth a crap.

Their two best wins were vs. Illinois State and Colorado State (both NIT teams). Tulsa was their third BEST win. That is embarrassing.

They played three good teams: Michigan State, UL, and Oklahoma State and were handled by all three.

It just makes it difficult to assess a team on those standards.

If that were a blind resume or change "Wichita State" with "UAB" and no one would be clamoring for the Blazers to get in or complaining about the seed.

Who would you pick on a neutral floor right now? Wichita or Vandy?
Wichita or Marquette? Wichita or South Carolina? Wichita or Seton Hall?

That's a good question.

I've seen WSU a few times this year. They beat Illinois State in the MVC title game and both teams looked absolutely underwhelming.

It doesn't matter about those teams. But if we play that, here is what I know:

The best four teams WSU has been shown capable of beating are Illinois State, CSU, Tulsa, and Southern Illinois. They were shown incapable of beating Louisville, Michigan State, and Oklahoma State. And even lost once to Illinois State.

Again, I'm NOT saying WSU is unworthy, it's just if one actually looks at the games they have played, it's hard to gain a lot of knowledge about their capabilities.

WSU relies on three point shooting and is one of the best three point shooting teams in the nation. In the games they have lost, they have not shot well from three.

Dayton has above average perimeter defense. Don't be surprised if Dayton wins.
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RE: Gregg Marshall coming to Memphis?
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

Please grace us with your knowledge and understanding of the selection process.
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(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 10:55 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Even this year, some folks have WSU on the bubble or out unless they win Arch Madness.

Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.
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(03-13-2017 02:39 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 07:31 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 11:04 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

WSU was not close to the bubble as some had projected. Of the 68 teams, they were No. 38.

That post exhibits a complete lack of understanding of the selection process.

Please grace us with your knowledge and understanding of the selection process.

Look at the list you referenced. Look at where Providence is ranked. They are one of the at large last in. That was the cushion for WSU. And that is based on WSU actually getting the auto bid. Imagine they would have been out or one of the first four had they not won the MVC tourney.
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(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 02:55 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Who? Everything I have seen has them solidly in. They are ranked in both polls, 27-4 and have won something like 14 straight with an RPI of 38. Most have them around a 7-8.

Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.
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It still boils down to whether WSU is a good program or just a ride-along of Gregg Marshall's.

I'm inclined to think their success is due to Gregg. He leaves, they become Southern Illinois.
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(03-13-2017 06:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  It still boils down to whether WSU is a good program or just a ride-along of Gregg Marshall's.

I'm inclined to think their success is due to Gregg. He leaves, they become Southern Illinois.

WSU's success is mostly due to Marshall. Otherwise they are known for the X man of CBB- Xavier McDaniel.
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(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-04-2017 03:27 PM)2tigers Wrote:  Just look at who posted it. You should know by now he is full crap and does not know as much as he thinks he does. But he has to keep his daddy HoopDreams happy. Plus one of his favorite coaches just lost his 13th game to Kansas State who lost to Oklahoma by 30. He will now post that they are in a better league but didn't we beat Ok. Yes we did.

WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.
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(03-13-2017 08:42 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

They should file a what could be a landmark lawsuit. They certainly have damages in the form of lost NCAA tourney shares. Seems to me it could be class action if every schools not P5 joined in.
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(03-13-2017 08:42 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 05:55 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  WSU won their auto bid and is a 10 seed. 11 seeds are the last four in.

The MVC Co champ didn't get in.

That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

Schedule Illinois State home and home in the same season then.

G5 schools need to have a little more solidarity.
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(03-13-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 08:42 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

They should file a what could be a landmark lawsuit. They certainly have damages in the form of lost NCAA tourney shares. Seems to me it could be class action if every schools not P5 joined in.

No. Not really.
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(03-13-2017 09:48 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 08:42 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 10:43 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's why WSU would be attracted to the AAC. They're in a CUSA-type situation or worse & want a higher level of competition to provide a better SOS/RPI. And WSU would help the AAC in the same respect, again a no-brainer IMO.

WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

Schedule Illinois State home and home in the same season then.

G5 schools need to have a little more solidarity.

In all seriousness, the "bracket busters" thing ESPN had going on was cool.
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(03-13-2017 06:37 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  It still boils down to whether WSU is a good program or just a ride-along of Gregg Marshall's.

I'm inclined to think their success is due to Gregg. He leaves, they become Southern Illinois.

He was never coming here

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(03-13-2017 10:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 09:20 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 08:42 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 05:32 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 03:07 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  WSU may have the hardest time of any of us non-powers in getting home/home OOC quality games. Sure looks like it.

That's why WSU wants AAC membership - and it is why the AAC should want WSU. The recognized BB conferences - those with schools that seem to get the benefit of a good SOS rating and get NCAA tourney consideration with 18-19 wins & 14-15 losses just through their conference schedule (still can't understand how the SEC has achieved an intrinsically high SOS) . The AAC along with the lesser recognized BB conferences don't get that consideration & have been more & more systematically locked out of competitive OOC home & home games being scheduled. If the AAC wants to be recognized as one of the better BB conferences they have to have schools that justify that recognition. Even worse for WSU & their MVC situation. An WSU addition to the AAC would give the AAC another proven conference member to help offset the weak OOC schedule across the board in the AAC & the down years of current members (like Memphis & UConn currently). Add another BB school too, maybe Dayton or VCU or Gonzaga if they'd bite. But for sure adding any of those schools is a much more confident bet compared to assuming that ECU, USF or Tulane will improve their programs or UH, SMU, UCF or Tulsa will sustain their recent success.

GP was talking about it this afternoon. Evidently, the Illinois State coach today called out the NCAA committee and the P5 conferences. Says the committee penalizes mid-majors by saying they didn't play anyone. But says no one will play them. He claims to have put out calls to the entire P5 last year for a game, and got straight no's. So they say you haven't played any P5's, but the P5 won't play you.

Same thing we're running into. Our home schedule stinks, but it's not for lack of trying.

They should file a what could be a landmark lawsuit. They certainly have damages in the form of lost NCAA tourney shares. Seems to me it could be class action if every schools not P5 joined in.

No. Not really.

Yea. Really-not class action but schools who can document what they did along with subpoenaed records from selection committee.
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Maybe this is how you do it-on Twitter:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../99136648/
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