RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-02-2017 08:09 PM)YNot Wrote:
(03-02-2017 08:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: Was BYU women's soccer the girl who yanked the other girl down by her pony tail? They played it all over you youtube "soccer player goes nuts" video. Crazy stuff! Anyone know what I'm talking about? Can someone put that link up?
Cheers!
It was a New Mexico player yanking the BYU players.
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-02-2017 02:21 AM)panite Wrote: BYU, the AAC with Navy, and Army should work with San Diego on reinstating the Poinsettia Bowl too even if they have to own it themselves like the Miami Bowl. Gives BYU east and west bowl options, and makes the Poinsettia Bowl a west coast Military Bowl option for the east coast military academies. With San Diego St in the area and Air Force in the conference MWC, I think the MWC would have an interest in seeing this bowl reinstated too.
I like this idea. 2010 Poinsettia matchup of SDSU/Navy brought 48k fans.
And I wonder about the Holiday Bowl. They're talking about moving to Petco Field or an MLS stadium. Those venues hold 40K, tops. Major downgrade from when the Holiday Bowl was drawing 60K with Wyoming. Easy to see the PAC downgrading them. If so, why not roll the dice on an AAC/MWC matchup?
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-02-2017 08:09 PM)YNot Wrote:
(03-02-2017 08:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: Was BYU women's soccer the girl who yanked the other girl down by her pony tail? They played it all over you youtube "soccer player goes nuts" video. Crazy stuff! Anyone know what I'm talking about? Can someone put that link up?
Cheers!
It was a New Mexico player yanking the BYU players.
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-02-2017 11:03 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:
(03-02-2017 08:09 PM)YNot Wrote:
(03-02-2017 08:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: Was BYU women's soccer the girl who yanked the other girl down by her pony tail? They played it all over you youtube "soccer player goes nuts" video. Crazy stuff! Anyone know what I'm talking about? Can someone put that link up?
Cheers!
It was a New Mexico player yanking the BYU players.
Did you see the very last fight of the video? She landed two blows as her opponent was falling down. A perfect combination! BYU normally is the one landing the nut shots and sucker punches but New Mexico (or at least 1 New Mexico player) really beat the living sh!t out of BYU game in that game!
Cheers!
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 01:04 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:
(03-02-2017 07:39 PM)YNot Wrote: This is true. Brazil and Mexico are the runners up to the US.
Depends on whether you ask the church or Brazilians.
Even in the USA, many denominations claim a lot more members than the number surveyers (like the census) get when they ask people which faith, if any, they belong to.
Look at the U.S. Census data on religion at the bottom of this link and compare the numbers in table 75 (the faith that people say they belong to or identify with) and the much larger numbers in table 76 (each denomination's report of the number of members they claim).
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 01:52 AM)Wedge Wrote:
(03-03-2017 01:04 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:
(03-02-2017 07:39 PM)YNot Wrote: This is true. Brazil and Mexico are the runners up to the US.
Depends on whether you ask the church or Brazilians.
Even in the USA, many denominations claim a lot more members than the number surveyers (like the census) get when they ask people which faith, if any, they belong to.
Look at the U.S. Census data on religion at the bottom of this link and compare the numbers in table 75 (the faith that people say they belong to or identify with) and the much larger numbers in table 76 (each denomination's report of the number of members they claim).
But that Brazilian discrepancy is even greater.
This is because most denominations other than Baptists, or congregationalists, use membership for determining how much a local church should give to either the denomination, or pastor, or some combination of the ministers and denomination. Depending upon the denomination there may be a few other factors as well. So keeping a padded roster ensures raises for the clergy or the denominational structures. So, if you are looking for truth in a Church don't start with the membership roster!
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2017 02:23 AM by JRsec.)
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-02-2017 07:39 PM)YNot Wrote: ...
And BYU AD doesn't sponsor men's soccer....although BYU women's soccer is quite competitive and generally boasts strong attendance.
BYU's Men's soccer team played in the Collegiate Club division until 2003 when the school purchased a franchise in the USL's Premier Development League (PDL). So while it is not part of the NCAA, they do have a Men's Soccer program. As a side note, they are the only NCAA team who has such an arrangement--which to me is part of the disconnect many fans have with that program. But adding the program to the NCAAs would have title IX implications. Should BYU join a P5 conference, I'd prefer to see them add men's soccer to the conference's games but I really have no idea how that may play out.
The Women's soccer team has been far more successful performance-wise and has much larger crowds--averaging nearly 3,000 per game in 2016 while the Men's soccer team usually has crowds under 1,000.
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2017 10:10 AM by f1do.)
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 02:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:
(03-03-2017 01:52 AM)Wedge Wrote:
(03-03-2017 01:04 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:
(03-02-2017 07:39 PM)YNot Wrote: This is true. Brazil and Mexico are the runners up to the US.
Depends on whether you ask the church or Brazilians.
Even in the USA, many denominations claim a lot more members than the number surveyers (like the census) get when they ask people which faith, if any, they belong to.
Look at the U.S. Census data on religion at the bottom of this link and compare the numbers in table 75 (the faith that people say they belong to or identify with) and the much larger numbers in table 76 (each denomination's report of the number of members they claim).
But that Brazilian discrepancy is even greater.
This is because most denominations other than Baptists, or congregationalists, use membership for determining how much a local church should give to either the denomination, or pastor, or some combination of the ministers and denomination. Depending upon the denomination there may be a few other factors as well. So keeping a padded roster ensures raises for the clergy or the denominational structures. So, if you are looking for truth in a Church don't start with the membership roster!
One difference might be on how membership numbers are counted. A person is removed from the Mormon membership numbers when they hit age 105 or something like that. A person who dies or formally requests to leave the church is still counted toward the number until he/she hits the age.
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 03:23 PM)jrj84105 Wrote: One difference might be on how membership numbers are counted. A person is removed from the Mormon membership numbers when they hit age 105 or something like that. A person who dies or formally requests to leave the church is still counted toward the number until he/she hits the age.
I've never heard that before. I know when someone dies, they disappear off the membership roster online right away (I'm in a leadership position and lost some people close to me lately so I noticed when they dropped off the list) so that doesn't sound correct--though I've never seen church membership counting methods published anywhere.
I know people born at least 110 years ago or married at least 95 years ago are assumed to be dead when there is no death record for performing temple ordinance purposes. Could that be what you are thinking of?
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2017 05:47 PM by f1do.)
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 05:41 PM)f1do Wrote:
(03-03-2017 03:23 PM)jrj84105 Wrote: One difference might be on how membership numbers are counted. A person is removed from the Mormon membership numbers when they hit age 105 or something like that. A person who dies or formally requests to leave the church is still counted toward the number until he/she hits the age.
I've never heard that before. I know when someone dies, they disappear off the membership roster online right away (I'm in a leadership position and lost some people close to me lately so I noticed when they dropped off the list) so that doesn't sound correct--though I've never seen church membership counting methods published anywhere.
I know people born at least 110 years ago or married at least 95 years ago are assumed to be dead when there is no death record for performing temple ordinance purposes. Could that be what you are thinking of?
Names are actively removed from rolls but the membership numbers aren't adjusted.
RE: BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
(03-03-2017 07:41 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:
(03-03-2017 05:41 PM)f1do Wrote:
(03-03-2017 03:23 PM)jrj84105 Wrote: One difference might be on how membership numbers are counted. A person is removed from the Mormon membership numbers when they hit age 105 or something like that. A person who dies or formally requests to leave the church is still counted toward the number until he/she hits the age.
I've never heard that before. I know when someone dies, they disappear off the membership roster online right away (I'm in a leadership position and lost some people close to me lately so I noticed when they dropped off the list) so that doesn't sound correct--though I've never seen church membership counting methods published anywhere.
I know people born at least 110 years ago or married at least 95 years ago are assumed to be dead when there is no death record for performing temple ordinance purposes. Could that be what you are thinking of?
Names are actively removed from rolls but the membership numbers aren't adjusted.
Quote:The church announces total membership once a year in April. The total always represents the number of church members at the end of the most recent calendar year.
I know the total membership numbers are not going to equal active church attendance numbers--and they aren't intended to. People don't lose their membership for not attending at a certain level. But it really doesn't make sense that the annual number isn't updated for deaths or membership removals along with children born in the church and baptisms. We can just agree to disagree on that point though.
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BYU's Holmoe expects ESPN tv contract extension this year
