And not to be rude to RamDawg (as I don't think we've met), but I imagine I would have heard if there was direct defiance from Chad to his superiors. Again, not saying you don't know what you're talking about, but I'm skeptical.

(08-15-2017 04:59 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  Great news! I personally think Chad leaving JMU is a loss but not everyone feels that way, especially some of the insiders that were under his leadership that past year or two. When your boss instructs you do a task a certain way and you decide to ignore him/her and do the opposite, your future may not be looking very bright.

I'm not trying to defend the way he was let go but keep in mind there's a whole lot more that look place that we don't know and if we did, it shouldn't be discussed publicly. Break-ups are never a one-sided deal. I will miss the "vib" that Chad brought to the games but I wont miss the few pep band members (official representatives of JMU) that were permitted to act in less than a respectful way toward our opponents, coaches, fans, refs, ect...

I will say you don't know what you're talking about. Also VCU sucks and so does their pep band.

(08-15-2017 04:59 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  Great news! I personally think Chad leaving JMU is a loss but not everyone feels that way, especially some of the insiders that were under his leadership that past year or two. When your boss instructs you do a task a certain way and you decide to ignore him/her and do the opposite, your future may not be looking very bright.

I'm not trying to defend the way he was let go but keep in mind there's a whole lot more that look place that we don't know and if we did, it shouldn't be discussed publicly. Break-ups are never a one-sided deal. I will miss the "vib" that Chad brought to the games but I wont miss the few pep band members (official representatives of JMU) that were permitted to act in less than a respectful way toward our opponents, coaches, fans, refs, ect...

I assume when you say "insiders" you're referring to Pep Band members? If so, those members are probably the ones who barely engaged in the game and talked amongst themselves until they had to play again, aka, NATFs.

I'm also curious as to these supposed "tasks" that were so egregiously disobeyed. My empirical knowledge would beg to differ from your possible conjecture.

Lastly, there was never a time where members were permitted to step over the line. If it happened, they were immediately talked to and it stopped. Perhaps your idea of "less than respectful" is the problem? Please elaborate on what your parameters are for "less than respectful".

I await your rebuttal.

(08-16-2017 01:15 PM)DukesInTheButt Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 04:59 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  Great news! I personally think Chad leaving JMU is a loss but not everyone feels that way, especially some of the insiders that were under his leadership that past year or two. When your boss instructs you do a task a certain way and you decide to ignore him/her and do the opposite, your future may not be looking very bright.

I'm not trying to defend the way he was let go but keep in mind there's a whole lot more that look place that we don't know and if we did, it shouldn't be discussed publicly. Break-ups are never a one-sided deal. I will miss the "vib" that Chad brought to the games but I wont miss the few pep band members (official representatives of JMU) that were permitted to act in less than a respectful way toward our opponents, coaches, fans, refs, ect...

I assume when you say "insiders" you're referring to Pep Band members? If so, those members are probably the ones who barely engaged in the game and talked amongst themselves until they had to play again, aka, NATFs.

I'm also curious as to these supposed "tasks" that were so egregiously disobeyed. My empirical knowledge would beg to differ from your possible conjecture.

Lastly, there was never a time where members were permitted to step over the line. If it happened, they were immediately talked to and it stopped. Perhaps your idea of "less than respectful" is the problem? Please elaborate on what your parameters are for "less than respectful".

I await your rebuttal.

Best username ever?

(08-16-2017 01:17 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-16-2017 01:15 PM)DukesInTheButt Wrote:  

(08-15-2017 04:59 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  Great news! I personally think Chad leaving JMU is a loss but not everyone feels that way, especially some of the insiders that were under his leadership that past year or two. When your boss instructs you do a task a certain way and you decide to ignore him/her and do the opposite, your future may not be looking very bright.

I'm not trying to defend the way he was let go but keep in mind there's a whole lot more that look place that we don't know and if we did, it shouldn't be discussed publicly. Break-ups are never a one-sided deal. I will miss the "vib" that Chad brought to the games but I wont miss the few pep band members (official representatives of JMU) that were permitted to act in less than a respectful way toward our opponents, coaches, fans, refs, ect...

I assume when you say "insiders" you're referring to Pep Band members? If so, those members are probably the ones who barely engaged in the game and talked amongst themselves until they had to play again, aka, NATFs.

I'm also curious as to these supposed "tasks" that were so egregiously disobeyed. My empirical knowledge would beg to differ from your possible conjecture.

Lastly, there was never a time where members were permitted to step over the line. If it happened, they were immediately talked to and it stopped. Perhaps your idea of "less than respectful" is the problem? Please elaborate on what your parameters are for "less than respectful".

I await your rebuttal.

Best username ever?

It's a good one to be sure... I've gotta think that's a former MRD member...we used to sing that all the time to "We Want The Funk" (aka Tear the Roof Off the Sucker)

DitB coming in strong on the first post

DiTB, I'm embarrassed that no one else has that name before you. Wear it well, my friend!

I've had very little if anything to comment on throughout this thread, but if there's one thing I noticed about Chad is that everything he does looks like exactly what Uncle Ron would have wanted him to do while he was running JMU and the school has tried for well over a decade to get away from that mentality. I hope they don't succeed and some people start to disappear from the JMU landscape before it's too late.

The book of music DEFINITELY changed under Chad. Pep Band was always good, but the music was brought current from the stone age. If you want students (as fans) engaged in the music at the game, you need to play THEIR music. Chad brought a lot of that to the forefront. Good luck to him at VT--they're getting a good one.

If you haven't learned that JMU Music administrators wished JMU didn't have an athletics program so they could save money and time on athletics bands, look no further than your latest edition of Madison Magazine on page 4. Shame on Madison Magazine for publishing content that is responsible for connecting a staggering number of alumni to JMU in all realms social, financial, etc.

(08-23-2017 09:41 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  If you haven't learned that JMU Music administrators wished JMU didn't have an athletics program so they could save money and time on athletics bands, look no further than your latest edition of Madison Magazine on page 4. Shame on Madison Magazine for publishing content that is responsible for connecting a staggering number of alumni to JMU in all realms social, financial, etc.

What an idiot.... JMU wins the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP which creates a lot of alumni and student pride so that is what Madison Magazine covers. Not all scores are music scores JEFFREY! Look at this guy!

I promise you that if it weren't for a continued regional and alumni connection through avenues such as sports, JMU wouldn't be as large as it is, and it wouldn't be funded as well as it is. That would mean poor Dr. Jeffrey Bush's salary would be a fraction of what it is. His department's funding would be a fraction of what it is. Did he ever stop to think about that?

(08-24-2017 08:55 AM)Potomac Wrote:  I promise you that if it weren't for a continued regional and alumni connection through avenues such as sports, JMU wouldn't be as large as it is, and it wouldn't be funded as well as it is. That would mean poor Dr. Jeffrey Bush's salary would be a fraction of what it is. His department's funding would be a fraction of what it is. Did he ever stop to think about that?

I can almost certainly say no, no he hasn't.

(08-24-2017 08:41 AM)JMUTrippster Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 09:41 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  If you haven't learned that JMU Music administrators wished JMU didn't have an athletics program so they could save money and time on athletics bands, look no further than your latest edition of Madison Magazine on page 4. Shame on Madison Magazine for publishing content that is responsible for connecting a staggering number of alumni to JMU in all realms social, financial, etc.

What an idiot.... JMU wins the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP which creates a lot of alumni and student pride so that is what Madison Magazine covers. Not all scores are music scores JEFFREY! Look at this guy!

Dude Tripp busting on people is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen

It's also patently untrue, at least for the current issue- anyone care to look back through the last 3 or 4 (which included the Natty run)? In the most recent issue, 4 pages of 64+ were about sports.

(08-24-2017 10:37 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 08:41 AM)JMUTrippster Wrote:  

(08-23-2017 09:41 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  If you haven't learned that JMU Music administrators wished JMU didn't have an athletics program so they could save money and time on athletics bands, look no further than your latest edition of Madison Magazine on page 4. Shame on Madison Magazine for publishing content that is responsible for connecting a staggering number of alumni to JMU in all realms social, financial, etc.

What an idiot.... JMU wins the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP which creates a lot of alumni and student pride so that is what Madison Magazine covers. Not all scores are music scores JEFFREY! Look at this guy!

Dude Tripp busting on people is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen

(08-24-2017 08:41 AM)JMUTrippster Wrote:  What an idiot.... JMU wins the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP which creates a lot of alumni and student pride so that is what Madison Magazine covers. Not all scores are music scores JEFFREY! Look at this guy!

The Maestro:

(08-24-2017 10:57 AM)QuinDuke Wrote:  It's also patently untrue, at least for the current issue- anyone care to look back through the last 3 or 4 (which included the Natty run)? In the most recent issue, 4 pages of 64+ were about sports.

Would you expect the spring issue to be sports heavy? GOOD! It was. I mean, we had just experienced the biggest sports thing to happen to the University since (arguably?) 2013. Only 10K or so attended. Only a couple tens-of-thousands more tuned in at home. But shame on JMU for promoting the athletics connection to the University.

It just makes him look really small.

(08-24-2017 11:26 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 10:57 AM)QuinDuke Wrote:  It's also patently untrue, at least for the current issue- anyone care to look back through the last 3 or 4 (which included the Natty run)? In the most recent issue, 4 pages of 64+ were about sports.

Would you expect the spring issue to be sports heavy? GOOD! It was. I mean, we had just experienced the biggest sports thing to happen to the University since (arguably?) 2013. Only 10K or so attended. Only a couple tens-of-thousands more tuned in at home. But shame on JMU for promoting the athletics connection to the University.

It just makes him look really small.

So many ways I could continue the roast of the particular commentator but I shan't - well said and exactly right.

IF the magazine is able to draw in the sports fan by putting it on the front page so they then read the other articles about what is going at JMU in the magazine, then that is a good thing.

I am not sure whether the ire should be directed at Dr. Bush so much as it should those editors of Madison Magazine. I can understand his point, even if I totally disagree and feel he is missing the big picture. But for the editors to throw him out there like that with his ill-constructed opinionated question? (Bad pun in 3... 2... 1...)
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