(02-20-2017 07:39 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:32 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:24 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:11 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:05 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Look I'm not saying it's right or wrong. The cops like they tend to do are conviction shopping. Juries tend not to like that. The most serious thing the kid's ever been convicted of is a DUI. And now they're looking to send him up for a good portion of his remaining life. And you seem to be all for that. How about a little perspective here.

Have a close friend whose daughter was attacked and raped on a date in college by a supposedly all american young man. When I saw what that family went through and the vicious attacks on their daughter based on nothing but lies, I will be the first to admit my ideas on sexual attacks on campuses changed. Fortunately that young man was convicted and spent 3 years in prison. Unfortunately their daughter has never fully recovered and that breaks my heart.

rape on campus is way overblown.

Sir, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read; and I read the perch daily. More than sufficient evidence/studies are available to disprove your comment. In fact, this single comment is rather sad for you and the countless women raped yet afraid to report as they may face an individual like yourself. His life should be ruined if guilty, the young lady life most certainly is

Your'e probably not going to like this. But a rape not reported is a rape that never happened, especially to law enforcement. Think about it. A lot of the times the woman drops the charges, has nothing to do with guys like me. If they are in a relationship, they still have feelings for the guy. In fact I would dare say no District Attorney worth their salt would even take the case. Especially after the ridiculous cyber stalking charge. It's nothing more than conviction shopping, charging him with every thing under the sun in the hopes that something sticks. ODU went through something similar. In the second or third year of our program a wide receiver (pretty good player) was accused of rape. As I recall she either dropped the charges, or he was found innocent, I don't remember which was the case.

So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

(02-20-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:39 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:32 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:24 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:11 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Have a close friend whose daughter was attacked and raped on a date in college by a supposedly all american young man. When I saw what that family went through and the vicious attacks on their daughter based on nothing but lies, I will be the first to admit my ideas on sexual attacks on campuses changed. Fortunately that young man was convicted and spent 3 years in prison. Unfortunately their daughter has never fully recovered and that breaks my heart.

rape on campus is way overblown.

Sir, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read; and I read the perch daily. More than sufficient evidence/studies are available to disprove your comment. In fact, this single comment is rather sad for you and the countless women raped yet afraid to report as they may face an individual like yourself. His life should be ruined if guilty, the young lady life most certainly is

Your'e probably not going to like this. But a rape not reported is a rape that never happened, especially to law enforcement. Think about it. A lot of the times the woman drops the charges, has nothing to do with guys like me. If they are in a relationship, they still have feelings for the guy. In fact I would dare say no District Attorney worth their salt would even take the case. Especially after the ridiculous cyber stalking charge. It's nothing more than conviction shopping, charging him with every thing under the sun in the hopes that something sticks. ODU went through something similar. In the second or third year of our program a wide receiver (pretty good player) was accused of rape. As I recall she either dropped the charges, or he was found innocent, I don't remember which was the case.

So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

(02-20-2017 08:14 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:39 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:32 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:24 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  rape on campus is way overblown.

Sir, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read; and I read the perch daily. More than sufficient evidence/studies are available to disprove your comment. In fact, this single comment is rather sad for you and the countless women raped yet afraid to report as they may face an individual like yourself. His life should be ruined if guilty, the young lady life most certainly is

Your'e probably not going to like this. But a rape not reported is a rape that never happened, especially to law enforcement. Think about it. A lot of the times the woman drops the charges, has nothing to do with guys like me. If they are in a relationship, they still have feelings for the guy. In fact I would dare say no District Attorney worth their salt would even take the case. Especially after the ridiculous cyber stalking charge. It's nothing more than conviction shopping, charging him with every thing under the sun in the hopes that something sticks. ODU went through something similar. In the second or third year of our program a wide receiver (pretty good player) was accused of rape. As I recall she either dropped the charges, or he was found innocent, I don't remember which was the case.

So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

No, social science would actually tell us that statistically for every rape reported several times that many rapes actually occurred.

(02-20-2017 09:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:14 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:39 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:32 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  Sir, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read; and I read the perch daily. More than sufficient evidence/studies are available to disprove your comment. In fact, this single comment is rather sad for you and the countless women raped yet afraid to report as they may face an individual like yourself. His life should be ruined if guilty, the young lady life most certainly is

Your'e probably not going to like this. But a rape not reported is a rape that never happened, especially to law enforcement. Think about it. A lot of the times the woman drops the charges, has nothing to do with guys like me. If they are in a relationship, they still have feelings for the guy. In fact I would dare say no District Attorney worth their salt would even take the case. Especially after the ridiculous cyber stalking charge. It's nothing more than conviction shopping, charging him with every thing under the sun in the hopes that something sticks. ODU went through something similar. In the second or third year of our program a wide receiver (pretty good player) was accused of rape. As I recall she either dropped the charges, or he was found innocent, I don't remember which was the case.

So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

No, social science would actually tell us that statistically for every rape reported several times that many rapes actually occurred.

But wouldn't that be based on opinion and not actual numbers? And how can we tell why rapes are not reported? I mean if the rapes are not reported, how do we know? The guy seems to think rapes are not reported because of me. I can assure you that is not the case. I mean really, I don't even know these women.

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

(02-20-2017 09:46 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:14 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:39 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Your'e probably not going to like this. But a rape not reported is a rape that never happened, especially to law enforcement. Think about it. A lot of the times the woman drops the charges, has nothing to do with guys like me. If they are in a relationship, they still have feelings for the guy. In fact I would dare say no District Attorney worth their salt would even take the case. Especially after the ridiculous cyber stalking charge. It's nothing more than conviction shopping, charging him with every thing under the sun in the hopes that something sticks. ODU went through something similar. In the second or third year of our program a wide receiver (pretty good player) was accused of rape. As I recall she either dropped the charges, or he was found innocent, I don't remember which was the case.

So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

No, social science would actually tell us that statistically for every rape reported several times that many rapes actually occurred.

But wouldn't that be based on opinion and not actual numbers? And how can we tell why rapes are not reported? I mean if the rapes are not reported, how do we know?

Why are you acting like an expert if you don't know the answers to these questions? He answer is surveys. Anonymous surveys where the woman gains nothing by lying. Some might still lie or inadvertently answer incorrectly but this could go either way and even if you were to very conservatively account for error all studies come back that MOST go unreported. The highest say 1 in 6 are reported.

There certainly seems to be plenty of evidence in this case. I dated a girl that was a victim of date rape. She never reported it. It was a long time before she told me about it. Chances are we all know someone.

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

(02-20-2017 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:46 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:14 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  So a rape that is never reported, never happened??? I imagine a poor girl scared to death to report a rape disagrees with you. Seriously, did you really post that comment?

Look, I know that leftist women's groups have set this issue back. The Rolling Stone fiction about the rape on the Virginia campus certainly was a travesty. Of course some rapes that are reported aren't actually rapes and that is why you pray the legal system works in those cases. Nevertheless, to think rapes that actually happened and aren't reported aren't really rapes, is beyond my comprehension.

Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

No, social science would actually tell us that statistically for every rape reported several times that many rapes actually occurred.

But wouldn't that be based on opinion and not actual numbers? And how can we tell why rapes are not reported? I mean if the rapes are not reported, how do we know?

Why are you acting like an expert if you don't know the answers to these questions? He answer is surveys. Anonymous surveys where the woman gains nothing by lying. Some might still lie or inadvertently answer incorrectly but this could go either way and even if you were to very conservatively account for error all studies come back that MOST go unreported. The highest say 1 in 6 are reported.

There certainly seems to be plenty of evidence in this case. I dated a girl that was a victim of date rape. She never reported it. It was a long time before she told me about it. Chances are we all know someone.

Well answer me this. If the woman doesn't report the rape, how do you know who to survey? Unless you mean to say they survey every woman? Unreported crimes are guesswork at best.

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

This is crazy, she went to the hospital and got a rape kit. More likely he'll try to plea out but I hope they hold his feet to the fire.

(02-20-2017 10:03 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:46 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 08:14 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Let me see if I can post this another way. I mean statistically a rape never reported is a rape that never happened. I can research and give you a mountain of statistics for rape cases that make it to court. I can tell you conviction rates, and do it on a state by state basis. Can you give me statistics on why women drop rape cases? I don't think you can. But apparently you seem to think you know the motivations of all of those women. Honestly there must be a carnival act in there somewhere. You know "the great Carnak" where you can come up with the motivations of everyone in the world.

No, social science would actually tell us that statistically for every rape reported several times that many rapes actually occurred.

But wouldn't that be based on opinion and not actual numbers? And how can we tell why rapes are not reported? I mean if the rapes are not reported, how do we know?

Why are you acting like an expert if you don't know the answers to these questions? He answer is surveys. Anonymous surveys where the woman gains nothing by lying. Some might still lie or inadvertently answer incorrectly but this could go either way and even if you were to very conservatively account for error all studies come back that MOST go unreported. The highest say 1 in 6 are reported.

There certainly seems to be plenty of evidence in this case. I dated a girl that was a victim of date rape. She never reported it. It was a long time before she told me about it. Chances are we all know someone.

Well answer me this. If the woman doesn't report the rape, how do you know who to survey? Unless you mean to say they survey every woman? Unreported crimes are guesswork at best.

What? They survey enough women to get a large enough population to get an acceptable error level. Did you never take a statistics class?

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

Sigh. Football scholarship aside, exactly how does a public university keep someone with past offenses out of the school? In Olsen's case maybe he would have gone somewhere else had we not offered him a football scholarship, but more broadly, I suspect almost all universities have students on campus with DUIs on their record, and drug arrests. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.

(02-20-2017 10:13 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

Sigh. Football scholarship aside, exactly how does a public university keep someone with past offenses out of the school? In Olsen's case maybe he would have gone somewhere else had we not offered him a football scholarship, but more broadly, I suspect almost all universities have students on campus with DUIs on their record, and drug arrests. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.

The "problem" (if there is one) would be that you directly offered him a scholarship with massive signs he was off-kilter. He walked around high 24/7 and got involved with the wrong people really quick. A student having one crazy night, getting caught, then becoming straight-line is different from a guy constantly doing drugs and living just out of reach of cops' handcuffs 23.5 hours a day. But it's a risk you took on a kid who some will say deserved a second chance. However, if the victim does blame the university, she could in theory say if you hadn't offered him a football scholarship while knowing his low moral character, she wouldn't have been raped by him and would not be a victim today; of course no clue how that would play in court but I can see how someone might try to argue that. If he had gone somewhere else on a non-football scholarship, then yeah they're not gonna comb through every arrest and make a moral judgement on "scholarship worthiness", but with a football staff actively making these decisions on whether to give him a chance, they're expected to do that ... it could be said.

(02-20-2017 10:04 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

This is crazy, she went to the hospital and got a rape kit. More likely he'll try to plea out but I hope they hold his feet to the fire.

More likely he'll try to plea out but I hope they hold his feet to the fire. Why do you think this way? Do you know him or her for that matter? When I become judgmental I always remember these simple yet profound words.

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Look it may surprise everyone to know. Not all guy's are beasts and not all women are pure as the driven snow.... Not everything is black and white. THERE ARE PLENTY OF GREY AREAS OUT THERE. Like I said earlier why get so worked up about this? I mean really do you know him or her for that matter? Now I have people screaming at me and calling me "retarded" just because I question the polices methodology? I've already stated I do not condone rape. What more do you need?

(02-20-2017 10:37 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Such a lawsuit would get laughed out of court.

(02-20-2017 10:59 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:37 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Such a lawsuit would get laughed out of court.

Are you kidding? Tell that to Baylor.

(02-20-2017 10:59 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:37 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Such a lawsuit would get laughed out of court.

Frankly the whole case should be laughed out of court. What evidence is there? That she took a rape test? Big deal. They give a rape test to everyone who reports a rape. After all, the evidence is time sensitive. All it would show is they had sexual relations. Well guess what they were going steady. Like I said in my first post "he said she said". End of story.

(02-20-2017 11:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:59 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:37 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Such a lawsuit would get laughed out of court.

Are you kidding? Tell that to Baylor.

this is nothing like the Baylor situation.

(02-20-2017 10:59 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:37 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:58 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 09:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 10:24 AM)Mr. Bojangles Wrote:  I think all 49er fans knew the risks of bringing Olsen in. Programs like us have to take chances on guys like this sometimes. I'm fine with it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately, it didn't work out. It wasn't working out even before he was arrested.

Give me a break with this "I told you so" attitude.

Charlotte should have never let this guy on campus. And I'm sure the young lady will sue the crap out of Charlotte now just like the women at Baylor are doing. It's same problem....except in Charlotte's case you could argue that Charlotte really should have known beforehand that taking on this kid was a big risk.

So a kid convicted with a DUI is a risk to be a rapist? Come on get real!! The crime was committed off campus and off season. Will not effect Charlotte whatsoever. Plus honestly, she'll drop the case, you just watch.

I promise you one of two things will happen:

1) She drops the charges, giving strong credence to Ole Blue's contention that many rape accusers have questionable motives (which I too btw, agree with in many case.) If this happens, she won't have a case against UNCC.

or

2) She will continue with the court case, which will result in her filing a gigantic CIVIL lawsuit against UNCC for letting this guy on campus. Her attorney will argue that this guy was already a two-time loser that had been kicked off of two college football teams, and been charged with a DUI (that we know about) at another school. They'll say the coach didn't do his proper due diligence, and that UNCC should have known better. Her attorneys will say that this coach allowed his greed for a good football player to overcome his reasonable judgement, thereby making UNCC liable. UNCC will subsequently settle the case with her out of court for a large sum not publicly named. But she will win.



The hardest part for UNCC now is that there will probably be a lot more people (lawyers, friends , family members, etc...) pushing for the later scenario rather than simply asking her to drop the case. There's too much money at stake for people to simply walk away.

Such a lawsuit would get laughed out of court.

We shall see....