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I love how John threw out what Alabama has done. Silly Goose I've only lived here a little over a year. I was in Missouri for 2 years prior to that, and Mississippi 3 years prior. That's not counting my time in NC, Louisiana, NY, Oregon, or Florida.

I did. It was because of budget cuts. You cut the things that don't generate revenue.

(02-16-2017 03:02 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I did. It was because of budget cuts. You cut the things that don't generate revenue.

That is the most pathetic response ever

(02-16-2017 02:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 02:38 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 02:36 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 02:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 02:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  A mentally ill person who stole the weapons used.

what kind of weapons?

That has to be the most idiotic leap in logic you have ever made on here and by God that says a lot because you are a world class mental gymnast.

We could easily have a Top 100 countdown.

it's pathetic that you simply agree with him because he disagrees with me.

would you honestly say asking "what kind of weapon was used" in regards to a crime qualifies as a leap? common sense says no and you two are both avoiding the obvious fact that kap is afraid to say the term "gun" in this conversation.

Simmer down, bud.

I'm a minority. I wasn't suppressed. Neither was my MIL or my wife.

It's a bunch of crap, period.

Of course a valid ID would suppress the illegal vote. Logically there would be fewer voting in a strict state.

Everyone else has an ID. Need to stop this fraud that minorities don't. They need them as much and quite often more than the rest of us. The few that don't have one, they need only go get one, like everyone else does.

Idiots.

Confirmation bias done right.

Another victim category. We have the I'm not getting a legal pass to the U.S. because I've suffered in my country and I don't think it's necessary.

I'm not getting an ID even though I know I use one to get food stamps, medical and other freebies and I won't say I have one to vote so that my friends the Demon-crats can biatch about it to the world, especially to the Cons.

I'm a Syrian refugee and even though I could be killed fighting there because they shoot back I can commit a crime here and be the victim.

ETCETERA, ETCETERA!

(02-16-2017 03:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 03:02 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I did. It was because of budget cuts. You cut the things that don't generate revenue.

That is the most pathetic response ever

So you're for keeping things open that lose money. You'll do well in life.

So voter ID makes it more difficult for illegals to vote. What is the problem?

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I had a heated discussion at the range this evening. KY is considering concealed constitutional carry legislation right now. The bill would make it legal for anyone 18 or over that is legal to own a gun to concealed carry without any application, permit, or classroom time. I like the idea of keeping it at 21 and requiring some minimum classroom time. Others were screaming that any requirement suppresses a right and was unacceptable.

I got roasted but it was cool. I started laughing at them - I told them that their idiotic arguments sound just like idiotic liberals who argue against any voter ID laws under the same principles. It got quiet.

(02-16-2017 03:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 03:02 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I did. It was because of budget cuts. You cut the things that don't generate revenue.

That is the most pathetic response ever

Translation: I don't have a response so I'm going to throw an insult that won't tempt the mods to do anything to me cause I'm a brown noser.

Actually, the reason why minorities vote less in a state that has voter ID laws is because the illegal minorities cannot vote. So no ****, you are going to have less minorities voting. Next!


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(02-16-2017 01:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Here's a suggestion. Find out what it is about requiring an ID that causes alleged voter suppression....attempt to fix that. Not requiring an ID to vote is not a valid solution to those problems.

Yes. Yes. And ... yes.

Do identification laws suppress minority banking?

If minorities use banks less than whites does that make the banking industry racially compromised?

It never ceases to amaze me that there are those on the left that scream people have no transportation, money, etc to get these IDs, but the same lefties will go get these disenfranchised folks on election day and take them to vote. But you can't pay for them an ID or take them to get said ID.

Wait the response is coming, why should you be out an expense for a basic right afforded to you by the Constitution? Unfortunately in our society there's no such thing as a free lunch. Meaning I have the right to tell my boss he's a c*cksucker, I can express that, but I may pay the price of unemployment. I have the right to bear arms, only after I pass a background check. I have the right to drink, but after I show proof of age.

(02-16-2017 01:50 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  You need a photo ID for everything else.

Only thing I need a photo ID for is driving and my chew, I absolutely do not need a photo ID for anything else.

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(02-16-2017 08:17 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 03:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 03:02 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I did. It was because of budget cuts. You cut the things that don't generate revenue.

That is the most pathetic response ever

So you're for keeping things open that lose money. You'll do well in life.

Revenue is evil to some folks.

(02-16-2017 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 01:50 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  So?

Either way, photo ID should required to vote. You need a photo ID for everything else.

this is actually an incorrect assertion. but it doesn't stop the GOPers from repeating it.

What's incorrect about it? You need an ID to work at anything other than an 'under the table' job. You need an ID to open a bank account or cash a check without paying a ridiculous fee. You need an ID for much travel. You need an ID to buy beer or watch some movies. You need an ID to get loans to buy a car or house. Most decent places require an ID to rent an apartment, and those that don't take advantage of you as a result. You need an ID for most assistance.

You need an ID to participate fully in the 'American Dream' and not get ripped off by people/companies who take advantage of you.... most often the people who can least afford it.

(02-16-2017 01:54 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Here's a suggestion. Find out what it is about requiring an ID that causes alleged voter suppression....attempt to fix that. Not requiring an ID to vote is not a valid solution to those problems.

This. It's good for everyone. Seriously, unless you're a far right anarchist group or religious cult, why would you NOT want/be better off with an ID?

(02-16-2017 01:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  and wasn't that illegal alien a republican?

Don't remember, but if so, it only proves that this isn't a right wing partisan issue. It's also true that most 'anti-government' groups and religious cults (most likely to not want IDs) lean right.... and white.

Honestly, I don't see how keeping minorities from having/wanting/getting ID is anything more than an attempt to keep them in low wage jobs and bad neighborhoods working for people who can rip them off.... and if you have an ID anything like a 'state id', you don't need to then ALSO register to vote. Puts all of those 'voter registration' groups out of work... so now they can help get these people IDs.