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(02-15-2017 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  what about tv appearances, bowl invites & schedule opponents ...

- Scheduling: no problem. As I suggested, UMass home/home each year. And UMass isn't finding difficulty filling a scheudle. UConn can schedule Big Ten, ACC, AAC, MAC, CUSA, etc. Lots of opportunities to fill non-conf games for those schools.

- bowls -- this will actually improve for UConn!! Because: even though it has no access to tie-ins, because of the nature of the bowl system right now, there are more slots than the conferences can fill. So as long as UConn can get to 6-6, it is pretty much guaranteed to get picked up by a bowl somewhere.

- TV - can't guarantee anything here. BYU got its own TV deal, though. Perhaps there would be interest for a regional deal with FOX/FS1 (Big East partner).
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(02-15-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  - MAC won't take UConn football. It's done with Eastern football-only's. Tried that with Temple and UMass, and it didn't work out. UConn is not a (significantly) better add than either of those two, right now. Sure, it has potential and has great facilities.

Well....that could be but when Temple left and UMass became the odd team...despite being offered full membership, I have to think that they might try again with UConn and UMass.
Unless the Big East is going to 20 games, then they can stay at 11 teams so they is no need for a 12th member (such as UMass).
If the AAC doesn't take UMass to replace UConn or add them as a fb-only replacement, the MAC could take a calculated risk and have UConn and UMass as fb-only members and will be quite stable as UConn isn't joining any P5 conference.

I would think that UConn can go Indy with NMSU, BYU and UMass able to help fill the November scheduling. And when the AAC figures out what to do by adding a full member or a fb-only member (say AF or UMass). If UMass isn't in the AAC, then I can see the MAC adding UMass back as a fb-only add along with UConn.
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RE: UConn to Big East?
Big East wants to go to 20 league games, per the OP article.


You are right though, the MAC could take UMass and UConn football as a pair. That's a reasonable proposal.


Think AAC would have more interest in Wichita St (without football) than UMass with football.
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(02-15-2017 01:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  - MAC won't take UConn football. It's done with Eastern football-only's. Tried that with Temple and UMass, and it didn't work out. UConn is not a (significantly) better add than either of those two, right now. Sure, it has potential and has great facilities.

Well....that could be but when Temple left and UMass became the odd team...despite being offered full membership, I have to think that they might try again with UConn and UMass.
Unless the Big East is going to 20 games, then they can stay at 11 teams so they is no need for a 12th member (such as UMass).
If the AAC doesn't take UMass to replace UConn or add them as a fb-only replacement, the MAC could take a calculated risk and have UConn and UMass as fb-only members and will be quite stable as UConn isn't joining any P5 conference.

I would think that UConn can go Indy with NMSU, BYU and UMass able to help fill the November scheduling. And when the AAC figures out what to do by adding a full member or a fb-only member (say AF or UMass). If UMass isn't in the AAC, then I can see the MAC adding UMass back as a fb-only add along with UConn.

While a conceivable thought - Umass has A LOT of work to do on the gridiron and basketball court to be competitive (and attractive to any conference) again.
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(02-15-2017 01:28 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 01:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  - MAC won't take UConn football. It's done with Eastern football-only's. Tried that with Temple and UMass, and it didn't work out. UConn is not a (significantly) better add than either of those two, right now. Sure, it has potential and has great facilities.

Well....that could be but when Temple left and UMass became the odd team...despite being offered full membership, I have to think that they might try again with UConn and UMass.
Unless the Big East is going to 20 games, then they can stay at 11 teams so they is no need for a 12th member (such as UMass).
If the AAC doesn't take UMass to replace UConn or add them as a fb-only replacement, the MAC could take a calculated risk and have UConn and UMass as fb-only members and will be quite stable as UConn isn't joining any P5 conference.

I would think that UConn can go Indy with NMSU, BYU and UMass able to help fill the November scheduling. And when the AAC figures out what to do by adding a full member or a fb-only member (say AF or UMass). If UMass isn't in the AAC, then I can see the MAC adding UMass back as a fb-only add along with UConn.

While a conceivable thought - Umass has A LOT of work to do on the gridiron and basketball court to be competitive (and attractive to any conference) again.

UMass b-ball can stay in the A-10 and will not be a candidate of the BE with a 20 game conf schedule.
UMass as a fb-only add for the AAC still wouldn't be a bad for the AAC (the AAC will have 10 b-ball schools which is great number for basketball). UMass will play some OOC games with the P5 schools in Boston along with some higher profile AAC schools and have games in Amherst for the lower profile OOC and AAC games.
Besides, they are making improvements to the OCS there and will eventually be a pretty decent stadium.
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(02-15-2017 01:28 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  While a conceivable thought - Umass has A LOT of work to do on the gridiron and basketball court to be competitive (and attractive to any conference) again.

Think you're off base with 'A LOT' on both accounts. Football had many competitive fun to watch games and a new DC coordinator and all those freshmen being a year older, with this class should help. Basketball wise, the talent is there and need some chemistry. VCU at VCU was the only blow out that I remember. Having Dekey playing under control is so important. He has tons of talent and just need some solid point guard play. The sloppy passes are down and encouraged with my maroon glasses.
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I find it very hard to believe that UConn would send its football team into the MAC. For all we know, this entire story about UConn into the Big East could be a bluff/attempt to encourage the ACC to take UConn for all sports or all sports except football (Similar to Notre Dame). As we review options for UConn, the question is what path will most likely get UConn into the ACC or B10.
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(02-15-2017 12:00 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  UConn would give the MAC a third program who has made it to a NY6 game.

Plus it would force the AAC to downgrade with its backfill...narrowing the gap between it and the MAC.

UConn could spend less on FB coaches in the MAC saving money there.

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(02-15-2017 01:42 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  I find it very hard to believe that UConn would send its football team into the MAC. For all we know, this entire story about UConn into the Big East could be a bluff/attempt to encourage the ACC to take UConn for all sports or all sports except football (Similar to Notre Dame). As we review options for UConn, the question is what path will most likely get UConn into the ACC or B10.

Or the American entertains the idea of leaving football and keeping 12 football members (and the championship game).
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(02-15-2017 01:42 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  I find it very hard to believe that UConn would send its football team into the MAC. For all we know, this entire story about UConn into the Big East could be a bluff/attempt to encourage the ACC to take UConn for all sports or all sports except football (Similar to Notre Dame). As we review options for UConn, the question is what path will most likely get UConn into the ACC or B10.

I doubt the ACC is really worried about UConn. They aren't going to take a 16th team.
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I'm still not buying this.
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I wonder if this may be a ploy to get ESPN to put more money in the AAC and not lose UConn to Fox. The timing is interesting right after the UConn women's game on Monday night that got 1.229 million viewers.
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IMO, this was a certainty even when the BE/AAC split in 2013. I just couldn't see the ACC or Big 12 adding UConn - for their own unique reasons, not because UConn isn't deserving - and their need to park their Olympic sports in a more regional conference (including power basketball conference).

UConn to the Big East just makes too much sense. An 11-team league, with a huge East Coast-presence, and keeping a round-robin 20-game schedule. If UConn leaves the Big East for the B1G, ACC or any other power conference, it won't impact the Big East at all, as we will still have our 10-team core in tact (and, at that point, perhaps Saint Louis and Dayton establish themselves as no-brainers for the conference).

I hope this happens. UConn and the Big East would both benefit from a rekindled partnership.
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In regards to UConns exit fees and wait time would that still stand if they are dropping their FB to FCS?

I think they should do it. It's much more likely that the ACC doesn't expand soon and if it does it does so because the Big XII dissolves and much more attractive options become available. I don't think they have a realistic path to P5 membership. At leats in the Big East they stay a power in BBall.
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To make us a 4-5 bid league we need to add Wichita State, Dayton, and VCU. It will kill off the A-10 and MVC and make them one bid leagues most years. It would also make Cinci and UConn happy in basketball and create more depth. Cincinnati may not be happy with Dayton in the conference but it would be a great rivalry game and really make our conference more close nit. Same goes for VCU and East Carolina, and Wichita State and Tulsa
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(02-15-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  - MAC won't take UConn football. It's done with Eastern football-only's. Tried that with Temple and UMass, and it didn't work out. UConn is not a (significantly) better add than either of those two, right now. Sure, it has potential and has great facilities.

- This is great for UConn. It should be in the Big East, with its historical rivals. It does not belong in a league playing Tulane, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, etc.

- While perhaps Big East should consider adding Dayton too, it sounds like from the article that going to 11 with UConn lets them do a 20 game BB schedule, double-round robin, which is what they want. So no Dayton for now.

- I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, and even if UConn admin are adamant in disagreement with me: the best course of action is for UConn to go independent in football. This won't hurt its football program one iota, relative to what it is in the AAC now (non-competitive). Could help them, if anything. If need be, you can do a yearly home/home with UMass in Gillette and the Rent.

- AAC adds Wichita St to get back to 11 full-members, and goes to 20 game BB schedule, matching the ACC and Big East (which goes to 20, double-round robin with the addition of UConn). To get back to 12 football members, AAC adds Army in football only. The Army-Navy game stays in its special slot, after the bowl games. Not sure how to best address it ... perhaps Army and Navy never play each other in conference, and it's always a non-conf game?

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(02-15-2017 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if this may be a ploy to get ESPN to put more money in the AAC and not lose UConn to Fox. The timing is interesting right after the UConn women's game on Monday night that got 1.229 million viewers.

Except any increase isn't going to compete with the Big East amount and it doesn't help UConn by still being in the AAC when UConn could be in a Power basketball conference which the AAC is not.
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The issue with the American adding non-football members, and with their current contract, is that it dilutes an already low media deal. Even if the media deal goes up with ESPN (or Fox, or whomever), it isn't going up astronomically - those schools by themselves don't dramatically increase the value of the conference. You need to provide enough financial incentive for schools like Wichita State, Dayton and VCU to come over, while also increasing the conference's revenue to justify the additions. The core schools won't accept schools just for the sake of improving basketball, unless they are given more money to do so. The American has clearly decided to be a football-first league (rightfully so).

The other issue is that historically strong programs like Memphis, UConn, Tulsa and Temple have not been themselves these past few years. If they go back to their regular output, in addition to SMU and Cincinnati, the AAC is a solid basketball league. It's ECU, Tulane, UCF and USF that need need to pick things up (UCF made a home run hire with Dawkins, they are definitely on the right path).
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(02-15-2017 02:25 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 02:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I wonder if this may be a ploy to get ESPN to put more money in the AAC and not lose UConn to Fox. The timing is interesting right after the UConn women's game on Monday night that got 1.229 million viewers.

Except any increase isn't going to compete with the Big East amount and it doesn't help UConn by still being in the AAC when UConn could be in a Power basketball conference which the AAC is not.

The Big East is making 4 million per school per year. The AAC right now is making around 2 million. Why wouldn't ESPN bump it up some to keep a valuable property from leaving to Fox?
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