Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

(02-12-2017 04:35 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 04:31 PM)dan o Wrote:  Just imagine the outrage and years' long antogonism if Josh had given up a 25-2 run with no timeouts---at home!

No kidding.

In the post game, Tubby was talking about the 25-2 run and no kidding, part of his response was, "oh well, what can you do?"

You must of missed the part where he took the blame for the loss basically saying this is my fault and "I didn't make the right calls".

It's better to tell the whole story. This loss to me is mostly on him Tubby and he took responsibility.

(02-12-2017 04:04 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 03:53 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 03:40 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 03:20 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  Why call timeout? It's obvious several guys are just going through the motions waiting until they can get paid to do the same. Nothing that can be said in a timeout will change that.

Getting paid for what?

Agreed. Yet there were multiple TV breaks during the 'run'. Not calling timeouts wasn't/isn't/and will not be the issue. It's fake news.

Dedric will get paid for playing BB and Keith knows that. I assume that is his sarcasm. YOU HAVE TO CALL TIME OUT. Can't just say it won't help. If you feel like that just forfeit the game. Wait, that's about what we did. Don't see many of TubbyTimes posts that I have blocked; must be disappointed in his bromance guy.

You have me on ignore but call me out?? Interesting, when I did this yesterday I was called out for it.

Hey Penny Lane how come you don't have the balls to call me those disgusting names that you did with that alias QuickQuickQuick?? No guts, just more sissy crap. Internet bully. You're tough online behind a keyboard. But outside of the Internet, totally different.

(02-12-2017 02:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  WTF?

Did he fall asleep during the game?

He must have been busy making tee-times.

Oh My . ITime Out for both of y'all

(02-12-2017 05:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Sometimes you call timeout to tell the players something specific. Sometime if a team is hot you call timeout to make their hot players take a 90 second break and stand around and think and get out of their groove.

My god people, DUH!!!! Why argue this?

Groundhog Day.

(02-12-2017 06:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Sometimes you call timeout to tell the players something specific. Sometime if a team is hot you call timeout to make their hot players take a 90 second break and stand around and think and get out of their groove.

My god people, DUH!!!! Why argue this?

Because it is fake news. There were multiple timeouts.

At the first dead ball after 4-minute intervals (beyond the 16:00, 12:00, 8:00 and 4:00 minute mark of each half

Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

agree with saluki and was wondering and yelling myself during that ridiculously awful stretch

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

If nothing else, you call a timeout to at least get the crowd into it. There is nothing worse than a TV timeout as an excuse to stop the bleeding. Believe it or not, sometimes crowds can actually make a difference and can actually fire up a lethargic team. It HAS happened even for the Tigers. To let things slip by like that, gets a Sunday afternoon crowd a little more sedate, when it needs to be fired up. And, precisely what is the DOWNSIDE of taking at least one timeout during that stretch?

CTS did not have one of his better days.

can we get a refund

I don't think there is a coach in the world that could please some of the Memphis fans on here. Gripe and moan about anything

Maybe he didnt call timeout because he had nothing to say?

(02-12-2017 06:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Whatever. We know your agenda. I'm not defending Tubby at all. It was an ugly game. I'm just pointing out that you and the TO stuff is as bad as the people who harp on a couple of bad calls. IT WAS A DOUBLE DIGIT KILLING. Do you really think a couple of deadball timeouts would change that? Sure he should have called one. And? Sure the ref should have got the calls right. And? You're just pushing an agenda to kick when down. You're very quiet when we beat a Tulsa like we did this week, but when can count on you to be here today.

(02-12-2017 09:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Whatever. We know your agenda. I'm not defending Tubby at all. It was an ugly game. I'm just pointing out that you and the TO stuff is as bad as the people who harp on a couple of bad calls. IT WAS A DOUBLE DIGIT KILLING. Do you really think a couple of deadball timeouts would change that? Sure he should have called one. And? Sure the ref should have got the calls right. And? You're just pushing an agenda to kick when down. You're very quiet when we beat a Tulsa like we did this week, but when can count on you to be here today.

RRR

(02-12-2017 09:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:06 PM)bluecrew Wrote:  Do people honestly not get that a coach like Tubby has earned a lot more of a benefit of the doubt than that idiot Josh? Seriously, you don't see the difference?

Just the opposite...you expect that nonsense out of a JV coach like the one before who gets lost in the moment. Heck, I might expect it IF you have a really great record and have some leeway either within a game or the season to "make the players work crap out."

However, Memphis doesn't have the firepower or consistency to be taught a lesson during a must win game nor do they have the record to allow a game to be lost just to prove a point.

Instead, (as Tubbytime notes) Tubby (for the THIRD time this year) admitted he messed up with substitutions and the like. Not sure that it's a good sign that a dude who had coached 30 years is still screwing up coaching 101 basics.

In the strange event that Tubby beats Cincinnati or SMU, it would be fair of you to point out the coaching moves he made that contributed to the big win, right? I know we can count the queen on you to do that.

(02-12-2017 09:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:09 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the timeouts would have solved the problem of them hitting everything - even when we did play D. It's the secret ingredient. It never fails. The missing piece. Of course, we could have started fouling them too, because they only shot 60% from the line.

No wait. Maybe it was the refs. There were at least 2 terrible calls. Didn't the phantom foul and the missed possession have a more direct impact to the game, than a to would have? Those calls directly led to 4 points.

So let's complain about officiating instead of the timeouts. Fans get worked up about both, when they neither have much impact in a double-digit game. They just don't.

Good lord this sounds like the Pastner stuff all over.

It seems to be coaching 101 to call a timeout SOME TIME during an 11 minute 25-2 run. Especially when you have a timeout that won't carry over to the 2nd half.

I really can't believe anyone with half a brain would do anything but shake heads in agreement, but it's not surprising to see 87 and midtown would have to argue the impossible.

Whatever. We know your agenda. I'm not defending Tubby at all. It was an ugly game. I'm just pointing out that you and the TO stuff is as bad as the people who harp on a couple of bad calls. IT WAS A DOUBLE DIGIT KILLING. Do you really think a couple of deadball timeouts would change that? Sure he should have called one. And? Sure the ref should have got the calls right. And? You're just pushing an agenda to kick when down. You're very quiet when we beat a Tulsa like we did this week, but when can count on you to be here today.

RRR

Can someone explain to me what rrr means?