last thing, we give the GS fans grief about the schedule, but the reality is, once you land your first P5, and show you can be a good host and handle gameday, then I think, the games will start lining up for you guys, just a matter of time.

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)moehler Wrote:  The complaint with Wake, is there a low P5 school, they really don't count.

I actually want to get more low-level P5's on the schedule. P5 wins are P5 wins, for the most part.

(02-14-2017 11:09 AM)HighCountry Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)moehler Wrote:  The complaint with Wake, is there a low P5 school, they really don't count.

I actually want to get more low-level P5's on the schedule. P5 wins are P5 wins, for the most part.

I agree with you the Wake game is a very winnable P5 and beating them will get you more recognition nationally than playing a good game but losing to UNC.

Cheat is horrible at stopping the run. Hopefully App can keep getting good RBs. Unless we are going through some big coaching changes or just have a down year in recruiting I think we will stand a good chance against the Cheaters on the Hill.

(02-14-2017 11:02 AM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Ehh, rumors always get out there before an official announcement is made. Fan gripes won't suddenly make UNC officials back out of a deal.

But I do have a real question for Ga Southern fans. And i ensure you this is a legit question, not a dig......what is the true consensus among your fans regarding the lack of success schedule P5s to Paulson? Seems like many fans are agitated that you haven't scheduled a H&H with a P5 yet, whereas the other half seems to say "well we don't want to give up money games to get one". That sounds like an excuse to mask the fact that you really REALLY want one. What gives?

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I personally haven't been too upset about the lack of a P5 on the home schedule but some of our fans do seem obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' so to speak. My gripe is the lack of 6 home games like last season with 2 of the five home games being on a week night I was only able to attend three games in spite of being a season ticket holder. I guess I might be in the minority but I agree with those who say no 2-1 deals just to get a P5 to our place. It seemed that our AD was having trouble scheduling even peer conference teams to begin with but our H&H deals do seem to be improving so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

no offense, I get why you don't want 2-1 deal just to get a P5 to our place, but when you do that your closing the doors on getting P5s to Statesboro on a regular basis. To me, it all about building it one layer at a time, you start with, very low P5 and solid G5, then once you establish you can handle all the logistics on gameday, extra crowd, traffic, etc, and you get that reputation of being a good host, then then it becomes much easier to sell your product to a mid-major, such as the Heels, and then you can start making some real money. The point is, now that Miami came, and other than the score, it was a big success by both fanbases/administrations, and with Wake, ECU, already signed up, the Carolinas, Dukes, and NC States of the world feel much more comfortable giving us a home game, than they did 2 years ago.

Boone has a advantage over Statesboro. Location. 6 teams (OOC) within the same state that have no problem playing a g5 on the road with 4 of those 6 being p5 teams. Also 4 other p5 teams in border states that also have scheduled to play g5 teams on the road. (Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vandy, and GaTech).

Now look at Statesboro. Only one team (OOC) within Georgia that will play a g5 on the road, (GaTech) and only 2 other p5 teams in border states that will play at a g5 (Miami and Vandy).

(02-14-2017 12:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:02 AM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Ehh, rumors always get out there before an official announcement is made. Fan gripes won't suddenly make UNC officials back out of a deal.

But I do have a real question for Ga Southern fans. And i ensure you this is a legit question, not a dig......what is the true consensus among your fans regarding the lack of success schedule P5s to Paulson? Seems like many fans are agitated that you haven't scheduled a H&H with a P5 yet, whereas the other half seems to say "well we don't want to give up money games to get one". That sounds like an excuse to mask the fact that you really REALLY want one. What gives?

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

I personally haven't been too upset about the lack of a P5 on the home schedule but some of our fans do seem obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' so to speak. My gripe is the lack of 6 home games like last season with 2 of the five home games being on a week night I was only able to attend three games in spite of being a season ticket holder. I guess I might be in the minority but I agree with those who say no 2-1 deals just to get a P5 to our place. It seemed that our AD was having trouble scheduling even peer conference teams to begin with but our H&H deals do seem to be improving so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

no offense, I get why you don't want 2-1 deal just to get a P5 to our place, but when you do that your closing the doors on getting P5s to Statesboro on a regular basis. To me, it all about building it one layer at a time, you start with, very low P5 and solid G5, then once you establish you can handle all the logistics on gameday, extra crowd, traffic, etc, and you get that reputation of being a good host, then then it becomes much easier to sell your product to a mid-major, such as the Heels, and then you can start making some real money. The point is, now that Miami came, and other than the score, it was a big success by both fanbases/administrations, and with Wake, ECU, already signed up, the Carolinas, Dukes, and NC States of the world feel much more comfortable giving us a home game, than they did 2 years ago.

Boone has a advantage over Statesboro. Location. 6 teams (OOC) within the same state that have no problem playing a g5 on the road with 4 of those 6 being p5 teams. Also 4 other p5 teams in border states that also have scheduled to play g5 teams on the road. (Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vandy, and GaTech).

Now look at Statesboro. Only one team (OOC) within Georgia that will play a g5 on the road, (GaTech) and only 2 other p5 teams in border states that will play at a g5 (Miami and Vandy).

Well, technically you've also got 4 other teams in border states that will play at a G5 as well (UNC, Duke, NCSU, Wake)

(02-14-2017 12:14 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 12:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:02 AM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Ehh, rumors always get out there before an official announcement is made. Fan gripes won't suddenly make UNC officials back out of a deal.

But I do have a real question for Ga Southern fans. And i ensure you this is a legit question, not a dig......what is the true consensus among your fans regarding the lack of success schedule P5s to Paulson? Seems like many fans are agitated that you haven't scheduled a H&H with a P5 yet, whereas the other half seems to say "well we don't want to give up money games to get one". That sounds like an excuse to mask the fact that you really REALLY want one. What gives?

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

I personally haven't been too upset about the lack of a P5 on the home schedule but some of our fans do seem obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' so to speak. My gripe is the lack of 6 home games like last season with 2 of the five home games being on a week night I was only able to attend three games in spite of being a season ticket holder. I guess I might be in the minority but I agree with those who say no 2-1 deals just to get a P5 to our place. It seemed that our AD was having trouble scheduling even peer conference teams to begin with but our H&H deals do seem to be improving so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

no offense, I get why you don't want 2-1 deal just to get a P5 to our place, but when you do that your closing the doors on getting P5s to Statesboro on a regular basis. To me, it all about building it one layer at a time, you start with, very low P5 and solid G5, then once you establish you can handle all the logistics on gameday, extra crowd, traffic, etc, and you get that reputation of being a good host, then then it becomes much easier to sell your product to a mid-major, such as the Heels, and then you can start making some real money. The point is, now that Miami came, and other than the score, it was a big success by both fanbases/administrations, and with Wake, ECU, already signed up, the Carolinas, Dukes, and NC States of the world feel much more comfortable giving us a home game, than they did 2 years ago.

Boone has a advantage over Statesboro. Location. 6 teams (OOC) within the same state that have no problem playing a g5 on the road with 4 of those 6 being p5 teams. Also 4 other p5 teams in border states that also have scheduled to play g5 teams on the road. (Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vandy, and GaTech).

Now look at Statesboro. Only one team (OOC) within Georgia that will play a g5 on the road, (GaTech) and only 2 other p5 teams in border states that will play at a g5 (Miami and Vandy).

Well, technically you've also got 4 other teams in border states that will play at a G5 as well (UNC, Duke, NCSU, Wake)

You are correct but each of those 4 more likely to schedule App, ECU, Charlotte, USC, Tenn, Vandy, or Georgia before Georgia Southern. Like I said Location.

(02-14-2017 02:20 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  man, the WDDITWAA crowd must be having a stroke with this deal. So glad we got rid of them.

I'd love to have seen the look on Bob Sneed and Roachel Laney's faces when they saw this.

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(02-14-2017 11:02 AM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Ehh, rumors always get out there before an official announcement is made. Fan gripes won't suddenly make UNC officials back out of a deal.

But I do have a real question for Ga Southern fans. And i ensure you this is a legit question, not a dig......what is the true consensus among your fans regarding the lack of success schedule P5s to Paulson? Seems like many fans are agitated that you haven't scheduled a H&H with a P5 yet, whereas the other half seems to say "well we don't want to give up money games to get one". That sounds like an excuse to mask the fact that you really REALLY want one. What gives?

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

I personally haven't been too upset about the lack of a P5 on the home schedule but some of our fans do seem obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' so to speak. My gripe is the lack of 6 home games like last season with 2 of the five home games being on a week night I was only able to attend three games in spite of being a season ticket holder. I guess I might be in the minority but I agree with those who say no 2-1 deals just to get a P5 to our place. It seemed that our AD was having trouble scheduling even peer conference teams to begin with but our H&H deals do seem to be improving so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

no offense, I get why you don't want 2-1 deal just to get a P5 to our place, but when you do that your closing the doors on getting P5s to Statesboro on a regular basis. To me, it all about building it one layer at a time, you start with, very low P5 and solid G5, then once you establish you can handle all the logistics on gameday, extra crowd, traffic, etc, and you get that reputation of being a good host, then then it becomes much easier to sell your product to a mid-major, such as the Heels, and then you can start making some real money. The point is, now that Miami came, and other than the score, it was a big success by both fanbases/administrations, and with Wake, ECU, already signed up, the Carolinas, Dukes, and NC States of the world feel much more comfortable giving us a home game, than they did 2 years ago.

Well the positive news is that we have the H/H with Houston, so that was a good step to get a solid G5 (with pretty big name recognition). The next step is a P5, no matter who it is.

When the Indiana game was announced I was a bit disappointed it wasn't a H/H, cause that seems like a pretty good candidate.

I personally am starting to have some concerns about the long term viability of our AD to make an impact in this area.

(02-14-2017 12:11 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 11:02 AM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:50 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 09:48 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Ehh, rumors always get out there before an official announcement is made. Fan gripes won't suddenly make UNC officials back out of a deal.

But I do have a real question for Ga Southern fans. And i ensure you this is a legit question, not a dig......what is the true consensus among your fans regarding the lack of success schedule P5s to Paulson? Seems like many fans are agitated that you haven't scheduled a H&H with a P5 yet, whereas the other half seems to say "well we don't want to give up money games to get one". That sounds like an excuse to mask the fact that you really REALLY want one. What gives?

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

I personally haven't been too upset about the lack of a P5 on the home schedule but some of our fans do seem obsessed with keeping up with the Jones' so to speak. My gripe is the lack of 6 home games like last season with 2 of the five home games being on a week night I was only able to attend three games in spite of being a season ticket holder. I guess I might be in the minority but I agree with those who say no 2-1 deals just to get a P5 to our place. It seemed that our AD was having trouble scheduling even peer conference teams to begin with but our H&H deals do seem to be improving so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that.

no offense, I get why you don't want 2-1 deal just to get a P5 to our place, but when you do that your closing the doors on getting P5s to Statesboro on a regular basis. To me, it all about building it one layer at a time, you start with, very low P5 and solid G5, then once you establish you can handle all the logistics on gameday, extra crowd, traffic, etc, and you get that reputation of being a good host, then then it becomes much easier to sell your product to a mid-major, such as the Heels, and then you can start making some real money. The point is, now that Miami came, and other than the score, it was a big success by both fanbases/administrations, and with Wake, ECU, already signed up, the Carolinas, Dukes, and NC States of the world feel much more comfortable giving us a home game, than they did 2 years ago.

Boone has a advantage over Statesboro. Location. 6 teams (OOC) within the same state that have no problem playing a g5 on the road with 4 of those 6 being p5 teams. Also 4 other p5 teams in border states that also have scheduled to play g5 teams on the road. (Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vandy, and GaTech).

Now look at Statesboro. Only one team (OOC) within Georgia that will play a g5 on the road, (GaTech) and only 2 other p5 teams in border states that will play at a g5 (Miami and Vandy).

Boy this is a switch! For decades all App folks have been told is our remote location and inaccessiblity would make it impossible to....
A: Play FBS football
B: Be successful in FBS football
C: Attract quality FBS opponents

I need to pause for a while and ponder this development.

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(02-14-2017 08:17 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  That is the we don't do it that way at App leadership from 1990 (or earlier) through 2004.

These "leaders" didn't believe App could be what we are today. From my perspective they knew they didn't have the skills to take us to the next level and thus status quo was good enough.

Saint I actually think it was more sinister than that. Thomas, Borkowski, Sneed and Laney wanted to keep the program small in order to maintain control and power. Once the genie was out of the bottle there was no putting it back in.

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So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

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(02-14-2017 12:52 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:17 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  That is the we don't do it that way at App leadership from 1990 (or earlier) through 2004.

These "leaders" didn't believe App could be what we are today. From my perspective they knew they didn't have the skills to take us to the next level and thus status quo was good enough.

Saint I actually think it was more sinister than that. Thomas, Borkowski, Sneed and Laney wanted to keep the program small in order to maintain control and power. Once the genie was out of the bottle there was no putting it back in.

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I don't know if they sole intentions was to keep App small, I heard Borkowski hated any kind of collage athletics, and to him it was all about academics, and even though athletics suffered greatly under him, he really improved the academics. As far as Thomas, I was there during his run, and I don't think App improved in any field during his tenure, he seemed very happy just maintaining the status quo, just my opinion.

(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

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Would take a 2 for 1 with Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Clemson, South Carolina, or Tennessee. None of these are going to happen. The only other team would be GaTech. Now I could see Southern signing a 1-1-1 against almost any p5 with the 3rd games being in say Birmingham or Atlanta against a team like MissSt.

(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

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2-1 P5 deals we would take: South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, Ga Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU

Unfortunately these schools will not go for a 2-1 for with GS.

2-1 P5 deals we would not take: Vandy, UNC, NCST, Wake Forest, East Carolina, Duke

We would love to set up a 1-1 with any of those schools but a 2-1 would be a net loss for us.

I would personally love to set up a 1-1-1 with a Florida school (FSU/Miami/UF/UCF/USF) where the final game is played in Jacksonville or something.

How would a 2 for 1 like the one we have set up turn into a loss? It's literally just a home and home with a money game added onto it. Not really a 2 for 1 at all.

(02-14-2017 04:04 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

2-1 P5 deals we would take: South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, Ga Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU

Unfortunately these schools will not go for a 2-1 for with GS.

2-1 P5 deals we would not take: Vandy, UNC, NCST, Wake Forest, East Carolina, Duke

We would love to set up a 1-1 with any of those schools but a 2-1 would be a net loss for us.

I would personally love to set up a 1-1-1 with a Florida school (FSU/Miami/UF/UCF/USF) where the final game is played in Jacksonville or something.

ECU is a G5 school.

(02-14-2017 04:04 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

2-1 P5 deals we would take: South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, Ga Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU

Unfortunately these schools will not go for a 2-1 for with GS.

2-1 P5 deals we would not take: Vandy, UNC, NCST, Wake Forest, East Carolina, Duke

We would love to set up a 1-1 with any of those schools but a 2-1 would be a net loss for us.

I would personally love to set up a 1-1-1 with a Florida school (FSU/Miami/UF/UCF/USF) where the final game is played in Jacksonville or something.

Yeah I don't think any of those schools will do a 1-1 with you guys. I think scheduling a 2-1 would be less of a "net loss" than never scheduling them and continuing to just sign home and homes with the likes of NMSU...

(02-14-2017 04:32 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 04:04 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  So Ga Southern fans have zero interest in a 2 for 1 even if it's structured similar to App's rumored 2 for 1 with UNC....being H&H plus 1 in Chapel Hill for a million bucks? Let's just say it would be against a P5 that's relatively close by, has a relatively good history, and travels relatively well...like a Miami, Louisville, or Mississippi State? Just using those as examples...no need to argue the semantics of each.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

2-1 P5 deals we would take: South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, Ga Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU

Unfortunately these schools will not go for a 2-1 for with GS.

2-1 P5 deals we would not take: Vandy, UNC, NCST, Wake Forest, East Carolina, Duke

We would love to set up a 1-1 with any of those schools but a 2-1 would be a net loss for us.

I would personally love to set up a 1-1-1 with a Florida school (FSU/Miami/UF/UCF/USF) where the final game is played in Jacksonville or something.

ECU is a G5 school.

I'm aware but they have P5 level attendance and y'all scheduled a 2-1-1 with them so I used them as an example. If we scheduled a 2-1-1 with them it wouldn't do much for us.

(02-14-2017 02:25 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 12:52 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:17 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  That is the we don't do it that way at App leadership from 1990 (or earlier) through 2004.

These "leaders" didn't believe App could be what we are today. From my perspective they knew they didn't have the skills to take us to the next level and thus status quo was good enough.

Saint I actually think it was more sinister than that. Thomas, Borkowski, Sneed and Laney wanted to keep the program small in order to maintain control and power. Once the genie was out of the bottle there was no putting it back in.

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I don't know if they sole intentions was to keep App small, I heard Borkowski hated any kind of collage athletics, and to him it was all about academics, and even though athletics suffered greatly under him, he really improved the academics. As far as Thomas, I was there during his run, and I don't think App improved in any field during his tenure, he seemed very happy just maintaining the status quo, just my opinion.

If you only knew. How many schools prohibit their athletic scholarship club from solliciting anyone who had EVER donated to ANY school, department or organization at the university? While every Yosef Club member was fair game to any school, department or organization within the university. Every football game Sneed packed the Chancellor's Box with prospective donors to his pet projects. None had anything to do with athletics. How many schools across this land will you find athletic events used to raise money for everything except athletics?