(02-12-2017 09:46 AM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:14 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  When I watch a game like this where we hold the opposing team down in scoring it makes our triple digit OT losses even more frustrating

And if TK does not start getting bench contributions how is this team going to win three games in three nights. Develop ALL of your players

Great game, fun to watch, dominating performance by the Rockets.

As a few have mentioned 2 consecutive games holding opponents under 60 points. Impressive.

But, here is the rub. Rockets had a basically a double digit lead the entire second half, mostly ranging from 12-18 points, but TK didn't use his bench. Roberts got a couple of minutes in the first half, got in briefly in the 2nd, but committed a turnover and got pulled immediately. He is a freshman, he is going to make freshman mistakes. No PT for Adway, until last 1:30. This was a game, where TK could have gotten some PT for his bench players, but didn't. He obviously only has confidence in his top 6 guys.

Give TK credit. He's smart enough to know that nobody beyond his top six can play. A ten point lead midway through the second half is no time to be developing anybody. The two guys you mentioned could develop a ten-point lead into a tie game in two minutes.

I was at the game. JonJon player real smart basketball. Sanford looks like a real leader. Taylor made a couple bad plays but when he got the ball down low Kent could not stop him.

Roberts is going to be needed if we make a tournament run. He is normally solid but I was disappointed Coach K pulled him when he made one mistake.

Is Garber ever going to play again? His presence would certainly help give the bigs a bit more of a breather.

(02-12-2017 10:30 AM)rkt Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 09:46 AM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:14 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  When I watch a game like this where we hold the opposing team down in scoring it makes our triple digit OT losses even more frustrating

And if TK does not start getting bench contributions how is this team going to win three games in three nights. Develop ALL of your players

Great game, fun to watch, dominating performance by the Rockets.

As a few have mentioned 2 consecutive games holding opponents under 60 points. Impressive.

But, here is the rub. Rockets had a basically a double digit lead the entire second half, mostly ranging from 12-18 points, but TK didn't use his bench. Roberts got a couple of minutes in the first half, got in briefly in the 2nd, but committed a turnover and got pulled immediately. He is a freshman, he is going to make freshman mistakes. No PT for Adway, until last 1:30. This was a game, where TK could have gotten some PT for his bench players, but didn't. He obviously only has confidence in his top 6 guys.

Give TK credit. He's smart enough to know that nobody beyond his top six can play. A ten point lead midway through the second half is no time to be developing anybody. The two guys you mentioned could develop a ten-point lead into a tie game in two minutes.

Completely agree. TK saw what happened when we kept playing an up & down game at BG and let the falcons back into the game in regulation. These last wins, he has started to take the air out of the ball around the 10 minute mark, with the offense running the shot clock down and shortening the game a bit. Smart strategy that helped keep EMU and Kent from being able to make a frantic run to close the gap. In that case, putting Adway, Roberts or Antunez on the floor, to basically play "keep away" on offense, would do little to improve their skills or confidence.

I think the lack of Adway & Antunez, in particular, to develop into 4-5 minutes-a-game contributors, will bite us come MAC tournament time...but a coach's job is to put his/her team in the best position to win a game, and I think TK has done that 2 games in a row now.

(02-12-2017 10:39 AM)Rocket75 Wrote:  I was at the game. JonJon player real smart basketball. Sanford looks like a real leader. Taylor made a couple bad plays but when he got the ball down low Kent could not stop him.

Roberts is going to be needed if we make a tournament run. He is normally solid but I was disappointed Coach K pulled him when he made one mistake.

Is Garber ever going to play again? His presence would certainly help give the bigs a bit more of a breather.

Garber still in boot and on scooter and time is running out.

(02-12-2017 09:07 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:42 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:52 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  4,829 was the people count. Fun crowd with the Blue Crew alums in attendance.

Ahhhh! That explains where they all came from. I wondered about that.

How many were there? I love the Blue Crew.

We had 13 alumni that dressed for the game and all 10 of the active members. I realized that I'm too old for that and could hardly keep up with the college kids. It was a great time! Glad the crowd enjoyed it!

the weird thing about Adway is that he's had some of his better minutes of the bench in recent action. The thing with the Kent game is they play an athletic frenetic style. Adway is sorta that type of player and might have gotten caught up in their game instead of doing what he should in ours. Similarly with Rocerts, his job is to come in and handle the ball well for a few possessions. Kent really pressures the ball and he did not look comfortable with it the 2 times he got on the court. If I was TK I would have done the same thing. I do think Adway needs to give us a solid 2-4 minute rotation once or twice a game come tournament time. The positive is that he's actually had a couple good rotations recently when he's gotten the chance so maybe he's more ready than we think.

I'll add that in championship and tournament games it is common to only play 7. A lot of depth is overrated. The key thing with the bench is do you have a big who can compete off the bench if a starter gets in foul trouble and can you rotate a guard into your perimeter group to stagger rests without losing production. A strong 7 can be enough.

(02-12-2017 05:49 PM)pono Wrote:  the weird thing about Adway is that he's had some of his better minutes of the bench in recent action. The thing with the Kent game is they play an athletic frenetic style. Adway is sorta that type of player and might have gotten caught up in their game instead of doing what he should in ours. Similarly with Rocerts, his job is to come in and handle the ball well for a few possessions. Kent really pressures the ball and he did not look comfortable with it the 2 times he got on the court. If I was TK I would have done the same thing. I do think Adway needs to give us a solid 2-4 minute rotation once or twice a game come tournament time. The positive is that he's actually had a couple good rotations recently when he's gotten the chance so maybe he's more ready than we think.

I'll add that in championship and tournament games it is common to only play 7. A lot of depth is overrated. The key thing with the bench is do you have a big who can compete off the bench if a starter gets in foul trouble and can you rotate a guard into your perimeter group to stagger rests without losing production. A strong 7 can be enough.

For me the concern is more the minutes logged over the course of the season. You just get tired and dinged up at 32 + minutes per game, every game, then have to do it three nights in a row in that. Ondition. I know these guys are young but fatigue and nagging injuries still take a toll.

(02-12-2017 06:56 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:49 PM)pono Wrote:  the weird thing about Adway is that he's had some of his better minutes of the bench in recent action. The thing with the Kent game is they play an athletic frenetic style. Adway is sorta that type of player and might have gotten caught up in their game instead of doing what he should in ours. Similarly with Rocerts, his job is to come in and handle the ball well for a few possessions. Kent really pressures the ball and he did not look comfortable with it the 2 times he got on the court. If I was TK I would have done the same thing. I do think Adway needs to give us a solid 2-4 minute rotation once or twice a game come tournament time. The positive is that he's actually had a couple good rotations recently when he's gotten the chance so maybe he's more ready than we think.

I'll add that in championship and tournament games it is common to only play 7. A lot of depth is overrated. The key thing with the bench is do you have a big who can compete off the bench if a starter gets in foul trouble and can you rotate a guard into your perimeter group to stagger rests without losing production. A strong 7 can be enough.

For me the concern is more the minutes logged over the course of the season. You just get tired and dinged up at 32 + minutes per game, every game, then have to do it three nights in a row in that. Ondition. I know these guys are young but fatigue and nagging injuries still take a toll.

Sanford, Jon Jon, and Taylor don't really seem to get tired... I'm not super worried about a deep run affecting us UNLESS we get into foul trouble. It'd be nice to be deeper but getting to the quarters on a bye is the goal now. And then we'd be 5 days rested.

(02-12-2017 12:04 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Garber still in boot and on scooter and time is running out.

Look for Garber to get limited minutes vs Ball State on February 28 and at Eastern Michigan on March 3

(02-12-2017 08:21 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:56 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:49 PM)pono Wrote:  the weird thing about Adway is that he's had some of his better minutes of the bench in recent action. The thing with the Kent game is they play an athletic frenetic style. Adway is sorta that type of player and might have gotten caught up in their game instead of doing what he should in ours. Similarly with Rocerts, his job is to come in and handle the ball well for a few possessions. Kent really pressures the ball and he did not look comfortable with it the 2 times he got on the court. If I was TK I would have done the same thing. I do think Adway needs to give us a solid 2-4 minute rotation once or twice a game come tournament time. The positive is that he's actually had a couple good rotations recently when he's gotten the chance so maybe he's more ready than we think.

I'll add that in championship and tournament games it is common to only play 7. A lot of depth is overrated. The key thing with the bench is do you have a big who can compete off the bench if a starter gets in foul trouble and can you rotate a guard into your perimeter group to stagger rests without losing production. A strong 7 can be enough.

For me the concern is more the minutes logged over the course of the season. You just get tired and dinged up at 32 + minutes per game, every game, then have to do it three nights in a row in that. Ondition. I know these guys are young but fatigue and nagging injuries still take a toll.

Sanford, Jon Jon, and Taylor don't really seem to get tired... I'm not super worried about a deep run affecting us UNLESS we get into foul trouble. It'd be nice to be deeper but getting to the quarters on a bye is the goal now. And then we'd be 5 days rested.

Coach K said none of these guys should get tired with all of the team and media time-outs.

(02-12-2017 09:10 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:21 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 06:56 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 05:49 PM)pono Wrote:  the weird thing about Adway is that he's had some of his better minutes of the bench in recent action. The thing with the Kent game is they play an athletic frenetic style. Adway is sorta that type of player and might have gotten caught up in their game instead of doing what he should in ours. Similarly with Rocerts, his job is to come in and handle the ball well for a few possessions. Kent really pressures the ball and he did not look comfortable with it the 2 times he got on the court. If I was TK I would have done the same thing. I do think Adway needs to give us a solid 2-4 minute rotation once or twice a game come tournament time. The positive is that he's actually had a couple good rotations recently when he's gotten the chance so maybe he's more ready than we think.

I'll add that in championship and tournament games it is common to only play 7. A lot of depth is overrated. The key thing with the bench is do you have a big who can compete off the bench if a starter gets in foul trouble and can you rotate a guard into your perimeter group to stagger rests without losing production. A strong 7 can be enough.

For me the concern is more the minutes logged over the course of the season. You just get tired and dinged up at 32 + minutes per game, every game, then have to do it three nights in a row in that. Ondition. I know these guys are young but fatigue and nagging injuries still take a toll.

Sanford, Jon Jon, and Taylor don't really seem to get tired... I'm not super worried about a deep run affecting us UNLESS we get into foul trouble. It'd be nice to be deeper but getting to the quarters on a bye is the goal now. And then we'd be 5 days rested.

Coach K said none of these guys should get tired with all of the team and media time-outs.

that too. the game has gotten more spaced out. another thing is with the 30 sec shot clock you only play 10-20 seconds of hard defense most possessions which is the most tiring part of the game