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(02-14-2017 03:17 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
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(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.

But that may be a great move for UCONN in the end. They are not really that committed to FB and are using it to insulate BB. However, if the Big East can be guaranteed a spot at the table for the tournament, then I think UCONN will move to the Big East and shut FB down.

I guess I just don't see the upside to the NBE for UConn but if they were planning to drop football I could see this being the best option. But I don't think they are trying to drop football.

Agree. There is no upside to the NBE for UConn unless it becomes absolutely crystal clear over the next seven years that joining a P5 conference is completely impossible for UConn. Until that day comes, UConn will commit to FBS football and work hard to make it respectable.

If UConn is shut out of the P5 by 2025, then basketball (and olympic sports) could possibly move to the NBE and football could either join the MAC or drop to FCS. At that point, I would actually prefer FCS over joining the MAC. FBS at that point would be such a cash drain due to the ever increasing P5/G5 divide (which is such utter horseshite anyway). At least in FCS, you can play for a national championship.

It's certainly not impossible at this point. I don't think there is even 1 P-5 conference who is happy with the current setup. PAC needs something to help with the network as they are quickly becoming second tier in BB and haven't had a championship level FB team since CArroll and Kelly were coaching. . SEC needs to get Missouri out of the East. ACC needs to find an even number to create divisions and 14.625 or 15 don't work very well not to mention the downside of havinmg regional schools like Miami and FSU who are not in the same division. B1G is on thier second divisional setup since going to 14 and now the West seems very unbalanced (much like old Big 12 North). Big 12 setup with a 9 game RR schedule and rematch CCG is far from ideal (and BTW nobody has been paying attention but the deal for the CCG has still not been finalized and its' supposed to happen this year).

There is more movement to come.

I'd love to see the Big 12 become a partner in the PACN and add BYU and UConn as they both offer the most value to a conference network. Suddenly you have a network with strengthened numbers in the West, rabid fans in the Central sime zone, and even exposure in the NYC/Boston area. #1 brand in every state within the footprint aside from Iowa but they have the most rabid fans in the confernce so getting picked up by all the major TV providers would be no problem at that point. Let UT keep LHN and they simply get no share of the confernce network $. No big deal as you still get all of the UT road content for the network so it's really an ideal setup.

Then go to East West Divisions, 8 game conference schedule to allow more flexibility for what each program needs.

AAC adds Rice and everyone is happy.
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RE: With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
(02-10-2017 08:29 PM)p23570 Wrote:  BYU would be the best add the AAC could ever get.
Agreed.

Quote:Gotta think Rice would make the most sense in the central and Eastern time zones. Beyond that a pod of New Mexico, Colorado ST, Air Force, and Boise would be pretty cool.
Rice would be a strong add but AAC already has a flag on that hill.
The relationship between Boise State and the AAC is deeply poisoned. Nothing will happen there without a yuge financial promise from ESPN or whoever to make it worthwhile. Such commitments don't appear to exist at the moment.

Quote:Baylor might be looking that way if they keep it up.
Heh. And to think Baylor triggered the break-up of the old SWC back in 1994.

If the Big <XII somehow implodes later on, Baylor would be reduced to C-USA/Sun Belt status. Nobody else would want anything to do with them.
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(02-10-2017 07:45 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Miko has achieved a transcendental level of trolling, where he doesn't even have to actually troll, just to exist. 04-coffee

I actually think he has slipped into irrelevance. Maybe his dumbest thread yet, intended to get a rise from...the AAC fans, of course. 03-zzz
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(02-15-2017 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 07:45 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Miko has achieved a transcendental level of trolling, where he doesn't even have to actually troll, just to exist. 04-coffee

I actually think he has slipped into irrelevance. Maybe his dumbest thread yet, intended to get a rise from...the AAC fans, of course. 03-zzz

That's my point. He didn't even have to throw out any troll-bait statements about the AAC--he said nice things. And yet here we are on post #44 of the thread. (Yours was 43, so I assume I'm next.)
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RE: With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
(02-15-2017 06:39 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 08:29 PM)p23570 Wrote:  BYU would be the best add the AAC could ever get.
Agreed.

Quote:Gotta think Rice would make the most sense in the central and Eastern time zones. Beyond that a pod of New Mexico, Colorado ST, Air Force, and Boise would be pretty cool.
Rice would be a strong add but AAC already has a flag on that hill.
The relationship between Boise State and the AAC is deeply poisoned. Nothing will happen there without a yuge financial promise from ESPN or whoever to make it worthwhile. Such commitments don't appear to exist at the moment.

Quote:Baylor might be looking that way if they keep it up.
Heh. And to think Baylor triggered the break-up of the old SWC back in 1994.

If the Big <XII somehow implodes later on, Baylor would be reduced to C-USA/Sun Belt status. Nobody else would want anything to do with them.

AAC and MW would be in a war to get them but to be honest I think Baylor might explore independence. But in the end they would join the AAC.

Conferences are good at looking past illegal activity when the AD is solid. See Louisville and the ACC. No way Baylor and it's FB, BB, and WBB programs get put in C-USA.
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(02-14-2017 03:17 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  There is no upside to the NBE for UConn unless it becomes absolutely crystal clear over the next seven years that joining a P5 conference is completely impossible for UConn.

This is simply nonsense.

Having football in the AAC does nothing to promote UConn getting a P5 invite. Not unless you're actually competitive in the AAC. As is, there are several AAC football programs that you're having a hard time out-competing year in and year out.

Going independent in fact won't reduce your football program a single iota. Might even help you gain some prominence, similar to BYU.


BE basketball is better for UConn MBB team than AAC, in terms of rivalries and historic opponents. That can't be argued.
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Native: Arkansas to the SEC was the first thread in the SWC demise. (Really it was SMU going on the "death penalty")
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With respect to the OP and the AAC's apparent contentment-- as the old saying goes, "Men are only as faithful as your options"
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(02-15-2017 10:30 AM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 06:39 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 08:29 PM)p23570 Wrote:  BYU would be the best add the AAC could ever get.
Agreed.

Quote:Gotta think Rice would make the most sense in the central and Eastern time zones. Beyond that a pod of New Mexico, Colorado ST, Air Force, and Boise would be pretty cool.
Rice would be a strong add but AAC already has a flag on that hill.
The relationship between Boise State and the AAC is deeply poisoned. Nothing will happen there without a yuge financial promise from ESPN or whoever to make it worthwhile. Such commitments don't appear to exist at the moment.

Quote:Baylor might be looking that way if they keep it up.
Heh. And to think Baylor triggered the break-up of the old SWC back in 1994.

If the Big <XII somehow implodes later on, Baylor would be reduced to C-USA/Sun Belt status. Nobody else would want anything to do with them.

AAC and MW would be in a war to get them but to be honest I think Baylor might explore independence. But in the end they would join the AAC.

Conferences are good at looking past illegal activity when the AD is solid. See Louisville and the ACC. No way Baylor and it's FB, BB, and WBB programs get put in C-USA.

Much like a "troubled" athlete, the question is are your talents more or less important than your problems. Baylor's athletic scandals are worthy of Alabama or USC football or Kentucky or Kansas basketball, and their accomplishments really don't measure up.

In other words, if your most famous coaches are Dave Bliss and Art Briles, you'd better have some serious hardware to show for it--national championships, Final Fours, etc--and they don't. If the Big 12 goes bust, Baylor looks a lot like SMU, but without as many rich boosters.
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What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.
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I'd be happy if:

UH
SMU
TULANE
TULSA

Joined the BIG XII. I'd also like WVU to find a more geographically reasonable home.
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(02-15-2017 07:35 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:30 AM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 06:39 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 08:29 PM)p23570 Wrote:  BYU would be the best add the AAC could ever get.
Agreed.

Quote:Gotta think Rice would make the most sense in the central and Eastern time zones. Beyond that a pod of New Mexico, Colorado ST, Air Force, and Boise would be pretty cool.
Rice would be a strong add but AAC already has a flag on that hill.
The relationship between Boise State and the AAC is deeply poisoned. Nothing will happen there without a yuge financial promise from ESPN or whoever to make it worthwhile. Such commitments don't appear to exist at the moment.

Quote:Baylor might be looking that way if they keep it up.
Heh. And to think Baylor triggered the break-up of the old SWC back in 1994.

If the Big <XII somehow implodes later on, Baylor would be reduced to C-USA/Sun Belt status. Nobody else would want anything to do with them.

AAC and MW would be in a war to get them but to be honest I think Baylor might explore independence. But in the end they would join the AAC.

Conferences are good at looking past illegal activity when the AD is solid. See Louisville and the ACC. No way Baylor and it's FB, BB, and WBB programs get put in C-USA.

Much like a "troubled" athlete, the question is are your talents more or less important than your problems. Baylor's athletic scandals are worthy of Alabama or USC football or Kentucky or Kansas basketball, and their accomplishments really don't measure up.

In other words, if your most famous coaches are Dave Bliss and Art Briles, you'd better have some serious hardware to show for it--national championships, Final Fours, etc--and they don't. If the Big 12 goes bust, Baylor looks a lot like SMU, but without as many rich boosters.

This ^ except they do have rich boosters at Baylor. One of them paid for and built a beautiful football stadium for them a couple years ago. One guy. That's impressive.
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People caused the issues at Baylor. There will be no long term issues. They already rebuonded recruiting in football and the other sports like BB and WBB are strong. No way they end up in c-USA.

Being in the AAC does not require any "hardware". No idea where you came up with that but that is your own fantasy, not reality. PSU didn't get kicked out of the B1G and Baylor will not be relegated to CUSA on Sun Belt.

They have $, location, and facilities. As much as I hate to say it they will be fine. I'm certainly no Baylor lover but if you want to see a very similar situation look at Montana. They had a "rape friendly" atmosphere with coverups from the coach, AD, police, and DA to the point they were referred to as "america's rape capitol". It's already past and was little more than a speed bump to the AD.

Here is more if you are interested in looking at the similarities.
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-E...1506210012
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(02-15-2017 07:36 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.

When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.
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(02-15-2017 10:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:36 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.

When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.

LOL. I'ts fun to type stuff like that. But then reality hits that any scenario where Texas leaves is highly unlikely. They have the best TV deal ever right now getting paid better than anyone with ESPN protecting it's investment. They have no reason to leave they have everything they want.

Then you come to OU and KU leaving by themselves which again is fun to say but then you look at what it would take for that to happen it's highly unlikely. An in state divorce is going to be messy, especially if it's not a crisis last resort type of situation, which this hardly is. OU is coming off a final 4 and playoff and would have been in the playoff if we had beat Houston so we ended up winning another Sugar bowl and top 10 recruiting class. . HArdly terrible times. OU and KU are making good $, playing regional games that fans enjoy and alumni can attend. Access to the playoff is better for OU and KU has been to the NCAA tournament nearly 20- years straight and is finally looking better in football.

I have not seen one piece of information that suggest KU is trying to get away from KSU and ISU and I have not seen any information to suggest OU is trying to get away from OSU. That's just fantasy board chatter from disgruntled AAC fans (or Louisville) who wish they had gotten an invite and now trash the Big 12.

To be realistic what would need to happen is no expansion and no opportunity for a conference network due to UT somehow preventing that from happening. I personally believe there will be a partnership with the PACN with a couple of regional channels in Big 12 country.

Nobody has paid attention but the Big 12 has not made a deal for a CCG. They agreed to have one and where to have one but I haven't seen a report that indicates a deal is done with a $ amount.

The Big 12 has also not negotiated a deal to remove the expansion clause that I am aware of. There was a lot of talk but that has gone silent with no conclusion.

The Big 12 and PAC met last fall to discuss a scheduling alliance and I ahve no doubt they discussed expansion. After that meeting I believe the Big 12 and PAC hired a consultant to research options on a partnership with the PACN including which teams the Big 12 could add which would be the most valuable to the PACN (BYU/UConn). ESPN would also be involved as they own both BYU and UConn content. UConn is threatening to go to FOX (NBE) if they dont' get an invite. BYU is the one school who increases viewers in the PAC footprint. Uconn offer some great content for a conference network and shocked the world with TV ratings for win #100.

ESPN decides to protect it's investment in BYU And UCOnn by paying the pro rata increase and FOX is more than willing to add UConn BB to it's BB content in the Northeast. PAC is interested in forcing providers to carry PACN And this accomplishes that and allows for a conference network that covers over half the country and is #1 in every state except Iowa where it's a 50/50 split as well as spans from LA to NY.

In the end this won't cost ESPN much as they already pay BYU for FB and would be splitting the increase with FOX.

AAC now has an opportunity to add 1 or more schools. I personally think it will be Rice for a variety of reasons but could see them making a move for the front range + Boise.
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(02-15-2017 11:47 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:36 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.

When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.

LOL. I'ts fun to type stuff like that. But then reality hits that any scenario where Texas leaves is highly unlikely. They have the best TV deal ever right now getting paid better than anyone with ESPN protecting it's investment. They have no reason to leave they have everything they want.

Then you come to OU and KU leaving by themselves which again is fun to say but then you look at what it would take for that to happen it's highly unlikely. An in state divorce is going to be messy, especially if it's not a crisis last resort type of situation, which this hardly is. OU is coming off a final 4 and playoff and would have been in the playoff if we had beat Houston so we ended up winning another Sugar bowl and top 10 recruiting class. . HArdly terrible times. OU and KU are making good $, playing regional games that fans enjoy and alumni can attend. Access to the playoff is better for OU and KU has been to the NCAA tournament nearly 20- years straight and is finally looking better in football.

I have not seen one piece of information that suggest KU is trying to get away from KSU and ISU and I have not seen any information to suggest OU is trying to get away from OSU. That's just fantasy board chatter from disgruntled AAC fans (or Louisville) who wish they had gotten an invite and now trash the Big 12.

To be realistic what would need to happen is no expansion and no opportunity for a conference network due to UT somehow preventing that from happening. I personally believe there will be a partnership with the PACN with a couple of regional channels in Big 12 country.

Nobody has paid attention but the Big 12 has not made a deal for a CCG. They agreed to have one and where to have one but I haven't seen a report that indicates a deal is done with a $ amount.

The Big 12 has also not negotiated a deal to remove the expansion clause that I am aware of. There was a lot of talk but that has gone silent with no conclusion.

The Big 12 and PAC met last fall to discuss a scheduling alliance and I ahve no doubt they discussed expansion. After that meeting I believe the Big 12 and PAC hired a consultant to research options on a partnership with the PACN including which teams the Big 12 could add which would be the most valuable to the PACN (BYU/UConn). ESPN would also be involved as they own both BYU and UConn content. UConn is threatening to go to FOX (NBE) if they dont' get an invite. BYU is the one school who increases viewers in the PAC footprint. Uconn offer some great content for a conference network and shocked the world with TV ratings for win #100.

ESPN decides to protect it's investment in BYU And UCOnn by paying the pro rata increase and FOX is more than willing to add UConn BB to it's BB content in the Northeast. PAC is interested in forcing providers to carry PACN And this accomplishes that and allows for a conference network that covers over half the country and is #1 in every state except Iowa where it's a 50/50 split as well as spans from LA to NY.

In the end this won't cost ESPN much as they already pay BYU for FB and would be splitting the increase with FOX.

AAC now has an opportunity to add 1 or more schools. I personally think it will be Rice for a variety of reasons but could see them making a move for the front range + Boise.

You've stated elsewhere that you live in Mountain country. You know why BYU will never be in the PAC. That's impossible.

Cheers!
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(02-16-2017 11:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 11:47 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:36 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.

When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.

LOL. I'ts fun to type stuff like that. But then reality hits that any scenario where Texas leaves is highly unlikely. They have the best TV deal ever right now getting paid better than anyone with ESPN protecting it's investment. They have no reason to leave they have everything they want.

Then you come to OU and KU leaving by themselves which again is fun to say but then you look at what it would take for that to happen it's highly unlikely. An in state divorce is going to be messy, especially if it's not a crisis last resort type of situation, which this hardly is. OU is coming off a final 4 and playoff and would have been in the playoff if we had beat Houston so we ended up winning another Sugar bowl and top 10 recruiting class. . HArdly terrible times. OU and KU are making good $, playing regional games that fans enjoy and alumni can attend. Access to the playoff is better for OU and KU has been to the NCAA tournament nearly 20- years straight and is finally looking better in football.

I have not seen one piece of information that suggest KU is trying to get away from KSU and ISU and I have not seen any information to suggest OU is trying to get away from OSU. That's just fantasy board chatter from disgruntled AAC fans (or Louisville) who wish they had gotten an invite and now trash the Big 12.

To be realistic what would need to happen is no expansion and no opportunity for a conference network due to UT somehow preventing that from happening. I personally believe there will be a partnership with the PACN with a couple of regional channels in Big 12 country.

Nobody has paid attention but the Big 12 has not made a deal for a CCG. They agreed to have one and where to have one but I haven't seen a report that indicates a deal is done with a $ amount.

The Big 12 has also not negotiated a deal to remove the expansion clause that I am aware of. There was a lot of talk but that has gone silent with no conclusion.

The Big 12 and PAC met last fall to discuss a scheduling alliance and I ahve no doubt they discussed expansion. After that meeting I believe the Big 12 and PAC hired a consultant to research options on a partnership with the PACN including which teams the Big 12 could add which would be the most valuable to the PACN (BYU/UConn). ESPN would also be involved as they own both BYU and UConn content. UConn is threatening to go to FOX (NBE) if they dont' get an invite. BYU is the one school who increases viewers in the PAC footprint. Uconn offer some great content for a conference network and shocked the world with TV ratings for win #100.

ESPN decides to protect it's investment in BYU And UCOnn by paying the pro rata increase and FOX is more than willing to add UConn BB to it's BB content in the Northeast. PAC is interested in forcing providers to carry PACN And this accomplishes that and allows for a conference network that covers over half the country and is #1 in every state except Iowa where it's a 50/50 split as well as spans from LA to NY.

In the end this won't cost ESPN much as they already pay BYU for FB and would be splitting the increase with FOX.

AAC now has an opportunity to add 1 or more schools. I personally think it will be Rice for a variety of reasons but could see them making a move for the front range + Boise.

You've stated elsewhere that you live in Mountain country. You know why BYU will never be in the PAC. That's impossible.

Cheers!
I agree that BYU will never join the PAC. I never suggested BYU join the PAC. I suggested the Big 12 add BYU and UConn.
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(02-16-2017 12:18 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 11:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 11:47 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:36 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  What's left of the Big12 will come calling on the AAC soon enough.

When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.

LOL. I'ts fun to type stuff like that. But then reality hits that any scenario where Texas leaves is highly unlikely. They have the best TV deal ever right now getting paid better than anyone with ESPN protecting it's investment. They have no reason to leave they have everything they want.

Then you come to OU and KU leaving by themselves which again is fun to say but then you look at what it would take for that to happen it's highly unlikely. An in state divorce is going to be messy, especially if it's not a crisis last resort type of situation, which this hardly is. OU is coming off a final 4 and playoff and would have been in the playoff if we had beat Houston so we ended up winning another Sugar bowl and top 10 recruiting class. . HArdly terrible times. OU and KU are making good $, playing regional games that fans enjoy and alumni can attend. Access to the playoff is better for OU and KU has been to the NCAA tournament nearly 20- years straight and is finally looking better in football.

I have not seen one piece of information that suggest KU is trying to get away from KSU and ISU and I have not seen any information to suggest OU is trying to get away from OSU. That's just fantasy board chatter from disgruntled AAC fans (or Louisville) who wish they had gotten an invite and now trash the Big 12.

To be realistic what would need to happen is no expansion and no opportunity for a conference network due to UT somehow preventing that from happening. I personally believe there will be a partnership with the PACN with a couple of regional channels in Big 12 country.

Nobody has paid attention but the Big 12 has not made a deal for a CCG. They agreed to have one and where to have one but I haven't seen a report that indicates a deal is done with a $ amount.

The Big 12 has also not negotiated a deal to remove the expansion clause that I am aware of. There was a lot of talk but that has gone silent with no conclusion.

The Big 12 and PAC met last fall to discuss a scheduling alliance and I ahve no doubt they discussed expansion. After that meeting I believe the Big 12 and PAC hired a consultant to research options on a partnership with the PACN including which teams the Big 12 could add which would be the most valuable to the PACN (BYU/UConn). ESPN would also be involved as they own both BYU and UConn content. UConn is threatening to go to FOX (NBE) if they dont' get an invite. BYU is the one school who increases viewers in the PAC footprint. Uconn offer some great content for a conference network and shocked the world with TV ratings for win #100.

ESPN decides to protect it's investment in BYU And UCOnn by paying the pro rata increase and FOX is more than willing to add UConn BB to it's BB content in the Northeast. PAC is interested in forcing providers to carry PACN And this accomplishes that and allows for a conference network that covers over half the country and is #1 in every state except Iowa where it's a 50/50 split as well as spans from LA to NY.

In the end this won't cost ESPN much as they already pay BYU for FB and would be splitting the increase with FOX.

AAC now has an opportunity to add 1 or more schools. I personally think it will be Rice for a variety of reasons but could see them making a move for the front range + Boise.

You've stated elsewhere that you live in Mountain country. You know why BYU will never be in the PAC. That's impossible.

Cheers!
I agree that BYU will never join the PAC. I never suggested BYU join the PAC. I suggested the Big 12 add BYU and UConn.

My bad. What 6 team divisions would you have for big 12 plus UCONN and BYU. That would be a difficult geographic split.
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RE: With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
(02-16-2017 03:20 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 12:18 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 11:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 11:47 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  When Texas, Oklahoma, and possibly some friends leave the Big 12 my guess is that Houston, Cincy, UCF, USF, and possibly others like UConn, Memphis, Tulane, and SMU will migrate over.

LOL. I'ts fun to type stuff like that. But then reality hits that any scenario where Texas leaves is highly unlikely. They have the best TV deal ever right now getting paid better than anyone with ESPN protecting it's investment. They have no reason to leave they have everything they want.

Then you come to OU and KU leaving by themselves which again is fun to say but then you look at what it would take for that to happen it's highly unlikely. An in state divorce is going to be messy, especially if it's not a crisis last resort type of situation, which this hardly is. OU is coming off a final 4 and playoff and would have been in the playoff if we had beat Houston so we ended up winning another Sugar bowl and top 10 recruiting class. . HArdly terrible times. OU and KU are making good $, playing regional games that fans enjoy and alumni can attend. Access to the playoff is better for OU and KU has been to the NCAA tournament nearly 20- years straight and is finally looking better in football.

I have not seen one piece of information that suggest KU is trying to get away from KSU and ISU and I have not seen any information to suggest OU is trying to get away from OSU. That's just fantasy board chatter from disgruntled AAC fans (or Louisville) who wish they had gotten an invite and now trash the Big 12.

To be realistic what would need to happen is no expansion and no opportunity for a conference network due to UT somehow preventing that from happening. I personally believe there will be a partnership with the PACN with a couple of regional channels in Big 12 country.

Nobody has paid attention but the Big 12 has not made a deal for a CCG. They agreed to have one and where to have one but I haven't seen a report that indicates a deal is done with a $ amount.

The Big 12 has also not negotiated a deal to remove the expansion clause that I am aware of. There was a lot of talk but that has gone silent with no conclusion.

The Big 12 and PAC met last fall to discuss a scheduling alliance and I ahve no doubt they discussed expansion. After that meeting I believe the Big 12 and PAC hired a consultant to research options on a partnership with the PACN including which teams the Big 12 could add which would be the most valuable to the PACN (BYU/UConn). ESPN would also be involved as they own both BYU and UConn content. UConn is threatening to go to FOX (NBE) if they dont' get an invite. BYU is the one school who increases viewers in the PAC footprint. Uconn offer some great content for a conference network and shocked the world with TV ratings for win #100.

ESPN decides to protect it's investment in BYU And UCOnn by paying the pro rata increase and FOX is more than willing to add UConn BB to it's BB content in the Northeast. PAC is interested in forcing providers to carry PACN And this accomplishes that and allows for a conference network that covers over half the country and is #1 in every state except Iowa where it's a 50/50 split as well as spans from LA to NY.

In the end this won't cost ESPN much as they already pay BYU for FB and would be splitting the increase with FOX.

AAC now has an opportunity to add 1 or more schools. I personally think it will be Rice for a variety of reasons but could see them making a move for the front range + Boise.

You've stated elsewhere that you live in Mountain country. You know why BYU will never be in the PAC. That's impossible.

Cheers!
I agree that BYU will never join the PAC. I never suggested BYU join the PAC. I suggested the Big 12 add BYU and UConn.

My bad. What 6 team divisions would you have for big 12 plus UCONN and BYU. That would be a difficult geographic split.
Cheers!
The divisions should be setup to give OU and UT the best opportunity to be highly ranked and not have a rematch of the RRR. Put the biggest brands (OU, KU, UT) in the biggest markets in the East.

East/West with permanent crossover game for FB and BB.
UT/TT
OU/OkSU
KU/KSU
ISU/Baylor
WVU/TCU
UConn/BYU
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With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
Something will happen soon it seems
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