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RE: With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
yes I guess all we have to do is avoid letting one of our team lead the negotiations for our TV deal, turn down ESPN then immeadiately leave the conference.
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(02-10-2017 09:32 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Never will happen. Cincy and Houston are investing heavily and consistently to build P5 programs. UConn has a growing internal war over it's athletic future direction. The majority of schools are pissed at the bill of goods sold them with he weak media package. 10 of 12 applied to the Big 12. And the Comissioner talks in an alternate universe speak of being the 6th power conference.

Yeah all kumbaya

In what bizarro world is this happening in?
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(02-10-2017 10:11 PM)HHOOTter Wrote:  A new TV contract is all about
potential viewership

IF AAC "looks" 2 expand
Best bet 4 best TV deal
Go Military
Air Force/Army
o/s of BYU (Mormons will never join AAC)
Military schools offer the most "new" viewer eyes

That's what would seem logical.
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Realignment is not quiet. It's too quiet! 03-wink
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(02-10-2017 10:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 09:08 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 09:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 04:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  It looks like the AAC member schools are elated with the current situation we see in the CFB world and conferences. I think stability will be a good thing moving forward, and I see great things in store for the AAC in the future. I think their future is very bright, and so long as that conference does not allow avarice to set in everyone will be happy. The whole system is working well for everyone. Hopefully the AAC fans don't muck it up for the rest of us by trying to force their schools to do irrational things.

Show me the money. Teams in the AAC can't chug along on a pittance while the P5s of the world continue to rake it in. Whatever good vibes folks are feeling about this conference will quickly fade if we can't attract the resources to become more competitive on the national stage.

This right here is what I'm talking about. Instead of worrying about what everyone else has, the AAC needs to focus within and make the conference the best it can be. Jealousy and greed will ultimately be the undoing of the AAC IF the member schools allow it to happen. This is where the fans can become dangerous to the viability of the conference by trying to drive it down a path paved with the stones of greed and the mortar of jealousy.

Hahahaha...you are a poet Miko!

To be honest I thought Miko had lost a step. His schtick was getting old. But stones of greed and mortar of jealousy... that's Class A stuff.
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(02-10-2017 09:39 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  I know it will never happen but IMO an AAC and MWC merger would be awesome

I don't understand the love affair with the Mtn West. Sure here are some solid schools to cherry pick, but to bring in the entire league would kill the AAC's perception of a P6 Conference. Seven to eight schools consistently average below 25,000 in football and since 2013 their NCAA Basketball Tournament apps have plummeted. Only one team made the field in 2016 three in 2015 and two in 2014.
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With realignment being very quiet, looks like AAC is very content
I could see the AAC going to 18 but no more, to many mouths to feed.

Possibly?
East- Cincinnati, Memphis, UCONN, ECU, Temple, USF, UCF, Tulane, Tulsa

West- NAVY, AF, Army, Houston, BYU, Boise, SMU, SD State, Colorado State

Being able to go multi dimensional would help out the AAC, ACC, SEC, B1G & the PAC.

In a 3x6, possibly?
Cincinnati, Memphis, UCONN, USF, UCF, ECU

NAVY, AF, Army, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa

BYU, Boise, SD State, Houston, SMU, Colorado State
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The TV deal that traded exposure for money was smart.
The whole conference basically made the Big Twelves finalist list. A grant of rights with an escape clause for a P5 invite would be smart. Adding CSU and New Mexico would help their P6 argument.

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(02-10-2017 10:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 09:08 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 09:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 04:54 PM)miko33 Wrote:  It looks like the AAC member schools are elated with the current situation we see in the CFB world and conferences. I think stability will be a good thing moving forward, and I see great things in store for the AAC in the future. I think their future is very bright, and so long as that conference does not allow avarice to set in everyone will be happy. The whole system is working well for everyone. Hopefully the AAC fans don't muck it up for the rest of us by trying to force their schools to do irrational things.

Show me the money. Teams in the AAC can't chug along on a pittance while the P5s of the world continue to rake it in. Whatever good vibes folks are feeling about this conference will quickly fade if we can't attract the resources to become more competitive on the national stage.

This right here is what I'm talking about. Instead of worrying about what everyone else has, the AAC needs to focus within and make the conference the best it can be. Jealousy and greed will ultimately be the undoing of the AAC IF the member schools allow it to happen. This is where the fans can become dangerous to the viability of the conference by trying to drive it down a path paved with the stones of greed and the mortar of jealousy.

Hahahaha...you are a poet Miko!
I'd argue that it becomes dangerous when the non-AAC fans of the P5 hijack the vehicle, thus driving the conference down through a path paved with gravel and the high weeds filled with hostile trolls full of petty hatred.. Greed of the Cartel will be the only undoing of this conference as The Rich Man who has everything kills his poor neighbor's only sheep. A sheep the family loved so much that he slept in the home, and ate at the family table. When that day happens, and college athletics is ruined and the Cartel wants to know who committed such an atrocity the Prophet will shout to the Cartel "You're the Man!" And the greed and shame will be the undoing of the evil cartel of college athletics as the rich man (Cartel 5) falls on his face sobbing at what he has done.

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(02-12-2017 09:49 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(02-10-2017 09:39 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  I know it will never happen but IMO an AAC and MWC merger would be awesome

I don't understand the love affair with the Mtn West. Sure here are some solid schools to cherry pick, but to bring in the entire league would kill the AAC's perception of a P6 Conference. Seven to eight schools consistently average below 25,000 in football and since 2013 their NCAA Basketball Tournament apps have plummeted. Only one team made the field in 2016 three in 2015 and two in 2014.

To be clear, it's about football more than anything else. Plus there's already a P6 in basketball and that doesn't include the AAC.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think anyone outside of AAC fan's consider them to be the 6th P conference in football.

That's why I'm a proponent of a merger of the two. We are on a slow march to college football becoming a true minor league to the NFL. The only way for teams in the G5 to be included is too either, a) be lucky geographically or Market wise so one of the P5's picks you in the expansion game or, b) merge the best of the rest so the networks might include you when they create their new tier in college football, NFL AAA.
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(02-12-2017 10:53 AM)MJG Wrote:  The TV deal that traded exposure for money was smart.
The whole conference basically made the Big Twelves finalist list. A grant of rights with an escape clause for a P5 invite would be smart. Adding CSU and New Mexico would help their P6 argument.

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Then you may as well not have a grant of rights in the first place. Again - like a broken record - short term greed may be the undoing of the conference. What major network will be willing to invest significant sums of money into a conference that will quite easily be crippled by defections? You either go all in, or you should disband and join of group of schools that you have zero problem being with for the long term. Taking the uneasy "wait and see" approach with the hope that your school gets that coveted invite is no better than investing the endowment fund into lottery tickets.

The conference needs to learn the nuances of Money Ball - not Power Ball.
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Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.
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(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.
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(02-13-2017 03:33 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.

But that may be a great move for UCONN in the end. They are not really that committed to FB and are using it to insulate BB. However, if the Big East can be guaranteed a spot at the table for the tournament, then I think UCONN will move to the Big East and shut FB down.
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Of course they wouldn't shut FB down. Way too huge of an investment, by the school and donors.

There is nothing wrong with UConn FB going independent. Simply nothing, at all. UMass and UConn can make it work, just fine. Even a yearly home/home at the Rent and Gillette, would be a great thing for both.
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(02-14-2017 12:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 03:33 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.

But that may be a great move for UCONN in the end. They are not really that committed to FB and are using it to insulate BB. However, if the Big East can be guaranteed a spot at the table for the tournament, then I think UCONN will move to the Big East and shut FB down.

Nothing could be further from the truth. UConn is 100% committed to football, it is just that the results haven't been there since 2010 due to two bad hires. How come nobody was saying that Louisville wasn't committed to football when Kragthorpe was driving that program into the ground. Louisville recovered by hiring Charlie Strong and then rehiring former coach Bobby Petrino after Strong left. UConn took a page out of that playbook and is now trying to capture a little lightning in a bottle by rehiring Randy Edsall. With Edsall at the helm again and Rhett Lashlee as the new OC and Billy Crocker as the new DC, I would argue that UConn is very committed to getting football back on track. UConn is not dropping football or going FCS. Period.

One last thought. If it seems like UConn is trying to insulate basketball, it isn't because of preferred choice or commitment, it is due to necessity. It is because of the P5 cartel's rules. This proclaimed P5/G5 divide coupled with G5 schools not REALLY having a chance of playing for a national title puts programs left out of the cartel in a tough spot. UConn will work hard at making football good in hopes of joining the cartel no later than 2025. If it doesn't happen by then, then UConn will be forced to insulate basketball. You do what you have to do.
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(02-14-2017 12:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 03:33 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.

But that may be a great move for UCONN in the end. They are not really that committed to FB and are using it to insulate BB. However, if the Big East can be guaranteed a spot at the table for the tournament, then I think UCONN will move to the Big East and shut FB down.

I guess I just don't see the upside to the NBE for UConn but if they were planning to drop football I could see this being the best option. But I don't think they are trying to drop football.
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(02-14-2017 02:53 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 12:56 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 03:33 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 11:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not so sure. I am still seeing articles for UConn. and the Big East connection still.

At that point UConn would have noone to blame but themselves. Would easily be the biggest blunder of realignment history.

That's like getting back together with your X wife after she gains 100 pounds and catches an STD.

But that may be a great move for UCONN in the end. They are not really that committed to FB and are using it to insulate BB. However, if the Big East can be guaranteed a spot at the table for the tournament, then I think UCONN will move to the Big East and shut FB down.

I guess I just don't see the upside to the NBE for UConn but if they were planning to drop football I could see this being the best option. But I don't think they are trying to drop football.

Agree. There is no upside to the NBE for UConn unless it becomes absolutely crystal clear over the next seven years that joining a P5 conference is completely impossible for UConn. Until that day comes, UConn will commit to FBS football and work hard to make it respectable.

If UConn is shut out of the P5 by 2025, then basketball (and olympic sports) could possibly move to the NBE and football could either join the MAC or drop to FCS. At that point, I would actually prefer FCS over joining the MAC. FBS at that point would be such a cash drain due to the ever increasing P5/G5 divide (which is such utter horseshite anyway). At least in FCS, you can play for a national championship.
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