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RE: The First 2017 Pre Season Outlook
(02-08-2017 10:14 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 05:42 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I would like to see Idaho to get a bowl on their last year of eligibility. Being the Poinsetta Bowl got cancelled, there shouldn't be 5-7 teams in the bowls. I wouldn't think Coastal would get in a bowl, but who knows what will happen.

I didn't know Dallas was still hurt/recovering. We need to win 4 conference games this season. I'm ready to see the full schedule for all the Sunbelt teams.

My predictions
Bowl Teams - App, Troy, Ark State, GS, ULL, Idaho
Maybe - USA, Ga State, Texas State
No - NMSU, ULM, Coastal

We will see but I think ULM makes big improvements this year.




ULM will make big improvements. The problem is we might be a better team and go 5-7. Our OOC schedule isn't a friendly one USM, Memphis, Auburn, and Florida State. 0-4 is a possibility. Yes we may get one but that's going to be tough. Moving forward we will play one FCS in OOC starting 2018. Of everything comes together we can but we will see what happens. Another year in the system and another year with a real Strength coach will benefit us. We haves everything immediate mew starters coming via transfer / juco. This will be a different team this season.
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RE: The First 2017 Pre Season Outlook
(02-08-2017 01:51 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:14 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 05:42 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I would like to see Idaho to get a bowl on their last year of eligibility. Being the Poinsetta Bowl got cancelled, there shouldn't be 5-7 teams in the bowls. I wouldn't think Coastal would get in a bowl, but who knows what will happen.

I didn't know Dallas was still hurt/recovering. We need to win 4 conference games this season. I'm ready to see the full schedule for all the Sunbelt teams.

My predictions
Bowl Teams - App, Troy, Ark State, GS, ULL, Idaho
Maybe - USA, Ga State, Texas State
No - NMSU, ULM, Coastal

We will see but I think ULM makes big improvements this year.




ULM will make big improvements. The problem is we might be a better team and go 5-7. Our OOC schedule isn't a friendly one USM, Memphis, Auburn, and Florida State. 0-4 is a possibility. Yes we may get one but that's going to be tough. Moving forward we will play one FCS in OOC starting 2018. Of everything comes together we can but we will see what happens. Another year in the system and another year with a real Strength coach will benefit us. We haves everything immediate mew starters coming via transfer / juco. This will be a different team this season.

0-4?
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(02-08-2017 03:55 PM)ApexRedWolf Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 01:51 PM)Golota Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:14 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 05:42 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I would like to see Idaho to get a bowl on their last year of eligibility. Being the Poinsetta Bowl got cancelled, there shouldn't be 5-7 teams in the bowls. I wouldn't think Coastal would get in a bowl, but who knows what will happen.

I didn't know Dallas was still hurt/recovering. We need to win 4 conference games this season. I'm ready to see the full schedule for all the Sunbelt teams.

My predictions
Bowl Teams - App, Troy, Ark State, GS, ULL, Idaho
Maybe - USA, Ga State, Texas State
No - NMSU, ULM, Coastal

We will see but I think ULM makes big improvements this year.




ULM will make big improvements. The problem is we might be a better team and go 5-7. Our OOC schedule isn't a friendly one USM, Memphis, Auburn, and Florida State. 0-4 is a possibility. Yes we may get one but that's going to be tough. Moving forward we will play one FCS in OOC starting 2018. Of everything comes together we can but we will see what happens. Another year in the system and another year with a real Strength coach will benefit us. We haves everything immediate mew starters coming via transfer / juco. This will be a different team this season.

0-4?
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(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

With a freshman QB and new offense and TS still in charge, no I don't
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(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

It will be close...New linebackers new QBs New OC new center new Dline with current coaches and errors from last year...6-6 is my hope
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(02-07-2017 04:14 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:54 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  Bowl team projections

Yes
App
TROY
stAte
UL
Idaho
Coastal (transitional team with winning record will get in)


Maybe
USA
GS
TxSt
GaSt


No
ULM
NMSU


Transitioning teams are not eligible for a bowl, except under the following circumstances:

#Not enough 6 and 6 teams.

#Transitioning team is in final year of transition

#not enough teams with higher priority ( this is 4th of 5 exceptions)

It is highly unlikely to get to that point.

A 6-6 transitional team gets in over 5-7 teams. I'm not sure when this rule changed but it was changed since Southern and App's final transitional year.

In other words, if Coastal goes 6-6 it is likely they get into a bowl.
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I think our bowl teams will be similar to last years. Maybe add in Ga Southern.

I think ULM will be improved but I dont see them winning any of their 4 OOC games.
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RE: The First 2017 Pre Season Outlook
(02-09-2017 01:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 04:14 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:54 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  Bowl team projections

Yes
App
TROY
stAte
UL
Idaho
Coastal (transitional team with winning record will get in)


Maybe
USA
GS
TxSt
GaSt


No
ULM
NMSU


Transitioning teams are not eligible for a bowl, except under the following circumstances:

#Not enough 6 and 6 teams.

#Transitioning team is in final year of transition

#not enough teams with higher priority ( this is 4th of 5 exceptions)

It is highly unlikely to get to that point.

A 6-6 transitional team gets in over 5-7 teams. I'm not sure when this rule changed but it was changed since Southern and App's final transitional year.

In other words, if Coastal goes 6-6 it is likely they get into a bowl.

The rule is the same as it was when App State and Georgia Southern transitioned to FBS. It's just that there was not a shortage of bowl eligible teams in 2014, and therefore no room for 9-3 Sun Belt Champion Georgia Southern or 7-5 App State.

You are correct that a 6-6 Coastal will likely get in. However, keep in mind that the Poinsettia Bowl is no more, so there must be fewer than 78 teams conventionally bowl eligible. The math just made a little tougher.
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(02-09-2017 01:46 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  I think our bowl teams will be similar to last years. Maybe add in Ga Southern.

I think ULM will be improved but I dont see them winning any of their 4 OOC games.

Yeah our OOC is not a very favorable schedule. We will have FCS game a year after this year. Hopefully we can get one but it's going to be tough.
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(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)jhbEAGLE Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

It will be close...New linebackers new QBs New OC new center new Dline with current coaches and errors from last year...6-6 is my hope

Looking at OOC - New Hampshire and UMass should be wins. If team bounces back and Indiana suffers due to coaching shakeup, that's a possible third win.

Turning towards Sun Belt play, it seems entirely reasonable (not probable, but reasonable) that the Eagles could get back to the 8-9 win mark if they play well OOC.

As bad as last season was, just a little bit more luck or talent would have had GS bowling. stAte literally handed us the game, but we managed to keep declining it. GaSt was spotted a 14-0 lead in about 37 seconds and GS was clearly the better team the rest of the way. And the Eagles stayed in the game against ULL despite playing a third-string true freshman at QB.

Those aren't excuses and anyone can play the 'IF' game. My only point is that a season full of suspect coaching and GS fans screaming that the world was ending was - without stretching too far into the hypothetical - a handful of plays away from being an 8-4 season.
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(02-09-2017 06:22 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)jhbEAGLE Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

It will be close...New linebackers new QBs New OC new center new Dline with current coaches and errors from last year...6-6 is my hope

Looking at OOC - New Hampshire and UMass should be wins. If team bounces back and Indiana suffers due to coaching shakeup, that's a possible third win.

Turning towards Sun Belt play, it seems entirely reasonable (not probable, but reasonable) that the Eagles could get back to the 8-9 win mark if they play well OOC.

As bad as last season was, just a little bit more luck or talent would have had GS bowling. stAte literally handed us the game, but we managed to keep declining it. GaSt was spotted a 14-0 lead in about 37 seconds and GS was clearly the better team the rest of the way. And the Eagles stayed in the game against ULL despite playing a third-string true freshman at QB.

Those aren't excuses and anyone can play the 'IF' game. My only point is that a season full of suspect coaching and GS fans screaming that the world was ending was - without stretching too far into the hypothetical - a handful of plays away from being an 8-4 season.

We were one play away from 6-6 at least.

4th and ******* 16
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RE: The First 2017 Pre Season Outlook
(02-09-2017 06:22 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)jhbEAGLE Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

It will be close...New linebackers new QBs New OC new center new Dline with current coaches and errors from last year...6-6 is my hope

Looking at OOC - New Hampshire and UMass should be wins. If team bounces back and Indiana suffers due to coaching shakeup, that's a possible third win.

Turning towards Sun Belt play, it seems entirely reasonable (not probable, but reasonable) that the Eagles could get back to the 8-9 win mark if they play well OOC.

As bad as last season was, just a little bit more luck or talent would have had GS bowling. stAte literally handed us the game, but we managed to keep declining it. GaSt was spotted a 14-0 lead in about 37 seconds and GS was clearly the better team the rest of the way. And the Eagles stayed in the game against ULL despite playing a third-string true freshman at QB.

Those aren't excuses and anyone can play the 'IF' game. My only point is that a season full of suspect coaching and GS fans screaming that the world was ending was - without stretching too far into the hypothetical - a handful of plays away from being an 8-4 season.

From a USA fan, I feel your pain. Even with our 11 starters out, we still had a shot to win a lot of games.
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A-States HC said they should be as "deep or deeper" in the OL, DL and at safety as last year, and those were the areas that he had said they needed to address in recruiting.

If that turns out to be true, should be another solid year for the Redwolves, at least in SBC play.
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(02-10-2017 09:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  A-States HC said they should be as "deep or deeper" in the OL, DL and at safety as last year, and those were the areas that he had said they needed to address in recruiting.

If that turns out to be true, should be another solid year for the Redwolves, at least in SBC play.

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Hey, that is what he said I heard him, and I can assure you if it is true....well you know what to expect.
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(02-10-2017 10:28 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Hey, that is what he said I heard him, and I can assure you if it is true....well you know what to expect.

Didn't He also say they would go 12-0 last year?
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I never heard him say that.

Said something to the effect that he had never been more excited about a team, and Dallas should be their goal, and of course an SBC Championship.

The Company I contracted with had them with 9 win's +/- 1, so that was my prediction.

Actually predicted they would start 1-3, but did not expect them to lose to 17 point dog UCA, but most likely going undefeated in SBC play.

Just guessing but I expect they will predict somewhere in that range this year, and probably a 1-3 start.
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The company I contracted with also had them with something like the #20 best roster talent in the G5. Better than any SBC team, and enough to win another SBC title, but hardly 12-0 material.

Doubt that changes a lot in 2017 either, but I will not have access to their roster comparisons, so I will not know.
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(02-10-2017 06:09 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(02-09-2017 06:22 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)jhbEAGLE Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 10:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 09:55 AM)NashvilleEagle Wrote:  You must know something the rest of us don't

You don't expect us go to bowling?

It will be close...New linebackers new QBs New OC new center new Dline with current coaches and errors from last year...6-6 is my hope

Looking at OOC - New Hampshire and UMass should be wins. If team bounces back and Indiana suffers due to coaching shakeup, that's a possible third win.

Turning towards Sun Belt play, it seems entirely reasonable (not probable, but reasonable) that the Eagles could get back to the 8-9 win mark if they play well OOC.

As bad as last season was, just a little bit more luck or talent would have had GS bowling. stAte literally handed us the game, but we managed to keep declining it. GaSt was spotted a 14-0 lead in about 37 seconds and GS was clearly the better team the rest of the way. And the Eagles stayed in the game against ULL despite playing a third-string true freshman at QB.

Those aren't excuses and anyone can play the 'IF' game. My only point is that a season full of suspect coaching and GS fans screaming that the world was ending was - without stretching too far into the hypothetical - a handful of plays away from being an 8-4 season.

We were one play away from 6-6 at least.

4th and ******* 16

You were also one play away from being 4-8.
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(02-09-2017 02:29 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  
(02-09-2017 01:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 04:14 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:54 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  Bowl team projections

Yes
App
TROY
stAte
UL
Idaho
Coastal (transitional team with winning record will get in)


Maybe
USA
GS
TxSt
GaSt


No
ULM
NMSU


Transitioning teams are not eligible for a bowl, except under the following circumstances:

#Not enough 6 and 6 teams.

#Transitioning team is in final year of transition

#not enough teams with higher priority ( this is 4th of 5 exceptions)

It is highly unlikely to get to that point.

A 6-6 transitional team gets in over 5-7 teams. I'm not sure when this rule changed but it was changed since Southern and App's final transitional year.

In other words, if Coastal goes 6-6 it is likely they get into a bowl.

The rule is the same as it was when App State and Georgia Southern transitioned to FBS. It's just that there was not a shortage of bowl eligible teams in 2014, and therefore no room for 9-3 Sun Belt Champion Georgia Southern or 7-5 App State.

You are correct that a 6-6 Coastal will likely get in. However, keep in mind that the Poinsettia Bowl is no more, so there must be fewer than 78 teams conventionally bowl eligible. The math just made a little tougher.

We went 7-5 in 2014, were not a transitional team, and still didn't make a bowl.

Things have obviously gotten significantly easier from 2015 and beyond. As mentioned above, drop from 80 to 78 bowl teams will make things just a tad tougher again.
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