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RE: North Dakota to Summit League and MVFC
At some point, the MVFC, MVC, and Sunmit should just try to merge. If Witchita and Missouri St ever leave, they might as well.
01-24-2017 04:16 PM
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This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.
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(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

There was no ultimatum they needed an answer for scheduling purposes for the 2018 season. The Big Sky later came out and stated Idaho could join at a later date if they needed to.
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RE: North Dakota to Summit League and MVFC
(01-24-2017 04:33 PM)MJG Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

There was no ultimatum they needed an answer for scheduling purposes for the 2018 season. The Big Sky later came out and stated Idaho could join at a later date if they needed to.

Yeah, that ultimatum was basically made up by Staben and he stopped talking about it pretty quickly. The Big Sky commish undercut him when asked by media members. It was pretty transparent to anyone paying attention -- the Big Sky tried very publicly to bring us back for 2 decades and suddenly we're supposed to have a do-or-die ultimatum? Like most of what comes out of Chuck Staben's mouth, it was nonsense.
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NoDak is on a suicide alert today.
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(01-24-2017 04:46 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  NoDak is on a suicide alert today.

I know. Poor guy. I also really wanted him to be right. All of his theories would have been very good for my school.
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(01-24-2017 04:46 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  NoDak is on a suicide alert today.

No, this is some 10D-chess-while-everyone-else-is-playing-checkers stuff. It's just another addition to the Goldberg machine that results in an FBS WAC.
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(01-24-2017 04:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:46 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  NoDak is on a suicide alert today.

No, this is some 10D-chess-while-everyone-else-is-playing-checkers stuff. It's just another addition to the Goldberg machine that results in an FBS WAC.

MVC and WAC are going to swap will be the next wild scheme.
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(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

Actually this is great news for the WAC as it gives the Summit ten members. That means the chances of the Summit taking back UMKC from the WAC just went down to about nil.
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(01-24-2017 05:00 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

Actually this is great news for the WAC as it gives the Summit ten members. That means the chances of the Summit taking back UMKC from the WAC just went down to about nil.

UMKC's flight risk is the MVC to take either Wichita State or Missouri State's spot.
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RE: North Dakota to Summit League and MVFC
(01-24-2017 05:00 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

Actually this is great news for the WAC as it gives the Summit ten members. That means the chances of the Summit taking back UMKC from the WAC just went down to about nil.

Denver is also a big winner. They and UND are kindred spirits with their mutual love of hockey.
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So the Summit will be at 10 with all the Dakota schools in the same league.

One might speculate this will open NMSU to the Big Sky as a full member.....

I really doubt UMKC is kicking themselves and probably saw this coming eventually with the league being a Dakota led conference.
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(01-24-2017 05:02 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 05:00 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

Actually this is great news for the WAC as it gives the Summit ten members. That means the chances of the Summit taking back UMKC from the WAC just went down to about nil.

UMKC's flight risk is the MVC to take either Wichita State or Missouri State's spot.

Possibly, but I thought the MVC was drifting east (Loyola-Chicago for Creighton, with UIC, Valpo and I think Detroit as other candidates) with the idea of it eventually becoming an Illinois/Indiana-centric league. If Wichita or Missouri State leave, then unless they take on UMKC and Omaha at the same time, I'd think they might abandon that part of the country entirely.
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Summit League going FBS 2020 you heard it here first.

I wonder if they will try to get Northern Colorado next.
Good travel partner for Denver and it would leave only Western Illinois without one.

The Big Sky could stay at ten or add CSUB and Seattle or wait for NMSU.
Or stay at ten hell I don't know its the realignment board.
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(01-24-2017 05:07 PM)MJG Wrote:  Summit League going FBS 2020 you heard it here first.

I wonder if they will try to get Northern Colorado next.
Good travel partner for Denver and it would leave only Western Illinois without one.

The Big Sky could stay at ten or add CSUB and Seattle or wait for NMSU.
Or stay at ten hell I don't know its the realignment board.

They can't go FBS. The Slummit cannot go FBS. They are not allowed to.
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(01-24-2017 05:06 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 05:02 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 05:00 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-24-2017 04:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  This makes sense to me.

The Summit won the battle with the WAC. This is bad news for them. UMKC has to be kicking themselves for moving from the Summit to the WAC.

I'd say the Big Sky would backfill with NMSU, but I'm not sure they'll do it, seeing as how they treated Idaho. Although I suspect that ultimatum was really asked for by the UI President to force a move down.

Actually this is great news for the WAC as it gives the Summit ten members. That means the chances of the Summit taking back UMKC from the WAC just went down to about nil.

UMKC's flight risk is the MVC to take either Wichita State or Missouri State's spot.

Possibly, but I thought the MVC was drifting east (Loyola-Chicago for Creighton, with UIC, Valpo and I think Detroit as other candidates) with the idea of it eventually becoming an Illinois/Indiana-centric league. If Wichita or Missouri State leave, then unless they take on UMKC and Omaha at the same time, I'd think they might abandon that part of the country entirely.

Nope Kansas City is an important market for the MVC especially if Wichita or Missouri State is gone.
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Yea, any chances of an FBS WAC needed some (if not all) of the Dakota schools IMHO. I'd be very shocked if anything moves forward now. The Montana schools don't have the balls to move up. The Idaho president has zero vision. Without a core of Idaho/Dakotas I doubt the FBS league would get off the ground.

I don't even know if the WAC could pull in enough schools for an FCS league.

If the WAC can pull in UC-San Diego and either keep or replace Chicago St, they would have ten members. However I have doubts about CSU and New Mexico St will bail for the first FBS conference that takes them.

Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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(01-24-2017 05:04 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So the Summit will be at 10 with all the Dakota schools in the same league.

One might speculate this will open NMSU to the Big Sky as a full member.....

I really doubt UMKC is kicking themselves and probably saw this coming eventually with the league being a Dakota led conference.

Seems like there would be a greater chance of the Big Sky offering NMSU, but I don't know why they'd accept unless FBS indy proves absolutely impossible to schedule. It doesn't solve their travel issues and the Big Sky is a worse basketball conference than the WAC at this point.
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(01-24-2017 05:07 PM)MJG Wrote:  Summit League going FBS 2020 you heard it here first.

I wonder if they will try to get Northern Colorado next.
Good travel partner for Denver and it would leave only Western Illinois without one.

The Big Sky could stay at ten or add CSUB and Seattle or wait for NMSU.
Or stay at ten hell I don't know its the realignment board.

I think CSUB is relatively happy with the WAC and they travel enough as is. Why would they add even more to join a one-bid league with12 members, and they don't have football? I cannot see it.

At least the WAC has baseball and men's soccer, which are somewhat important to CSUB.
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