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So Sessions had a black staffer.. .Big whoop. Ben Carson supports Sessions too. We're not saying his support among African Americans is zero. Maybe 5%.

Do I believe Sessions will make voter supression a priority? Yep. Do I think he will continue his extreme homophobia? Yep.

In another post, someone asked why Sessions was so bad. I said that it might be because he's just a very mean person or it might be because he is pandering to the crude bigots that he needs to win a GOP primary. If its the second, and he is really interested in not presiding over an alt-right/racist Justice Department, then maybe he won't be awful. But Sessions is 70. I don't see him changing.

I'm also familiar with the Donald/Hays cases. Sessions appears to be grossly overstating his personal involvement in the case. And Smith did too. Figures/Dees did 90 percent of the work. Sessions provided use of his office for an interview. He also allowed US Atty folks to testify in SPLC civil trial against the UKA. Okay there's that. But he wasn't the prosecutor in Mississippi Burning folks.

I liked how he made reference to Booker and his political aspirations. Booker was just grandstanding and wants to put his name out there for all his Demon-cratic sycophants at our next election.

It was the final component in the grand slam his confirmation hearing was.

Sessions is a good man. He'll make an even better AG.

(01-11-2017 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So Sessions had a black staffer.. .Big whoop. Ben Carson supports Sessions too. We're not saying his support among African Americans is zero. Maybe 5%.

Do I believe Sessions will make voter supression a priority? Yep. Do I think he will continue his extreme homophobia? Yep.

In another post, someone asked why Sessions was so bad. I said that it might be because he's just a very mean person or it might be because he is pandering to the crude bigots that he needs to win a GOP primary. If its the second, and he is really interested in not presiding over an alt-right/racist Justice Department, then maybe he won't be awful. But Sessions is 70. I don't see him changing.

I'm also familiar with the Donald/Hays cases. Sessions appears to be grossly overstating his personal involvement in the case. And Smith did too. Figures/Dees did 90 percent of the work. Sessions provided use of his office for an interview. He also allowed US Atty folks to testify in SPLC civil trial against the UKA. Okay there's that. But he wasn't the prosecutor in Mississippi Burning folks.

Is his homophobia greater than your victim complex?

(01-11-2017 09:28 PM)banker Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So Sessions had a black staffer.. .Big whoop. Ben Carson supports Sessions too. We're not saying his support among African Americans is zero. Maybe 5%.

Do I believe Sessions will make voter supression a priority? Yep. Do I think he will continue his extreme homophobia? Yep.

In another post, someone asked why Sessions was so bad. I said that it might be because he's just a very mean person or it might be because he is pandering to the crude bigots that he needs to win a GOP primary. If its the second, and he is really interested in not presiding over an alt-right/racist Justice Department, then maybe he won't be awful. But Sessions is 70. I don't see him changing.

I'm also familiar with the Donald/Hays cases. Sessions appears to be grossly overstating his personal involvement in the case. And Smith did too. Figures/Dees did 90 percent of the work. Sessions provided use of his office for an interview. He also allowed US Atty folks to testify in SPLC civil trial against the UKA. Okay there's that. But he wasn't the prosecutor in Mississippi Burning folks.

Is his homophobia greater than your victim complex?

Nice attempt at passive aggression.

Please defend Jeff Sessions treating LGBT persons with dignity and fairness and standing up for their interests. In a 40 year career as US Atty, as Alabama AG, and in the US Senate.

He supported (and presumably still supports) criminalization of Gay persons, he used the awful Bowers ruling and then tried to use that to expand so that it could be used to justify denials of basic first amendment rights for LGBT Alabamians (at my alma mater btw) who weren't even engaging in sex (which is what Bowers was concerned with), he has an abysmal voting record on LGBT rights.

I come from the very small community from which Jeff Sessions does (white educated Mobilians). I have observed him, at a closer proximity than probably anyone else on this board, going back decades. I don't know of ANY Mobilians (even those that voted for him and Trump) that are willing to vouch for him not holding animus against LGBT people. The best I've ever heard is that 'he's a crude oaf pandering to the bigotries of the voters he needs to win a primary. You hear things when your in the area. Not just big things. Sessions' criticizing Disney for allowing Gay people to have "gay days" at their park for example. The man voted against anti-bullying measures, because they covered LGBT youth. There are Alabamians that are Republicans that oppose LGBT initiatives generally that I don't consider to be crude bigots (I don't consider former Gov. Bob Riley to be a bigot for example). Jeff Sessions....has provided EVERYONE with every indication possible that he is motivated by malevolence against LGBT persons with absolutely no mitigating factors.

For Sessions, no shred of dignity is too small for him to attempt to deny to LGBT persons IMHO. Its my opinion. But it is informed by his very long record.

Are there any LGBT people that are willing to stand up and vouch for Sessions? I know lots of LGBT people in Alabama who voted for Trump (sadly). But I none of them will stand for Sessions and vouch for him publicly. He's been in office for 40 years. Quite frankly, I can't even find any STRAIGHT supporter of any major LGBT initiatives that is willing to stand up for him and say 'I think he will treat LGBT persons fairly'.

And then there's Cory Booker's testimony.

Then there's this from Booker, praising Sessions's work on civil rights:

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(01-11-2017 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So Sessions had a black staffer.. .Big whoop.

Especially since tom has nit knighted him "really black" yet..

Quote:Ben Carson supports Sessions too.

Another fake black man.

(01-11-2017 11:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 08:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So Sessions had a black staffer.. .Big whoop.

Especially since tom has nit knighted him "really black" yet..

Quote:Ben Carson supports Sessions too.

Another fake black man.

Does Jeff Sessions have the confidence of the African American mainstream? Nope.

What about those that identify as black?

Tom, here's your issue and one of the reasons Trump is President. Liberals don't know when to stop. It's really that simple.

Let's look at your own hot button issue. I remember the days of closeted gays. That was a bad thing. The community asked for the right to live their life as they chose. Reasonable and frankly very few had an issue with it. The mantra of "what happens in our bedroom is our business" was the rallying cry. America said OK.

With that victory in hand, we were then confronted with "we shouldn't have to keep who we are hidden in the bedroom". Ok, fair enough. I'm fine with that.

Next we evolved to "you have to accept and condone my lifestyle". I will have flamboyant parades and call you names if you don't tell me I'm special and deserve special recognition. Uh, starting to piss us off.

Then it was "not only do you have to acknowledge and accept me, but now I want your tax dollars to fund my choices". Regardless of your personal believes you must accept my morals, my world view, and if your views conflict with mine you are a hateful homophobe that follows a dark ages religion based on hate.

It's the same dang thing with feminist. They don't want equality, like the gays, they want preference. So don't give me your crap about homophobes or I will just start laying down the hetrophobe, whiteaphobe, middleamericaaphobe, and all the other phobes that are the real issue in this country.