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RE: What's the latest on the IPF for football
(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:05 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at the lack of funding. We have very little fan base (meaning ticket sold) and even fewer deep pocket boosters. The football program does not make any money. When a program is outside of the Power 5 conferences. then it is always a struggle. The school needs a T. Boone Pickens.

We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?
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(01-10-2017 05:31 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  IPF's are sooooo 2016.

Check out the new Clemson FB facility...
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(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:05 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at the lack of funding. We have very little fan base (meaning ticket sold) and even fewer deep pocket boosters. The football program does not make any money. When a program is outside of the Power 5 conferences. then it is always a struggle. The school needs a T. Boone Pickens.

We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

You ever hear the old adage about making assumptions?
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RE: What's the latest on the IPF for football
(01-10-2017 05:57 PM)wylioats Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:19 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  The money is not there

I was told the money WAS there. I was also told by 2 people within the athletic administration that ground breaking would take place right after the season and would be ready by next football season. A number of our players are also of the understanding that it will be ready by next season, as mentioned in a CA article where one player said, practicing in the cold or when it's raining won't be a problem next year when we're in our new indoor facility. I know for a fact Fuente was under the impression it'd be done under his watch (didn't happen), wonder what Norvell was told. Beginning to wonder if the damn thing will ever be built.

If the money is not there, they should not have said that it was. At this point, no one knows that more funding it needed. Personally, I don't understand why the new basketball facility was started first when we already had a pretty good facility and football is driving things. If football is the priority, then the IPF should have been funded and approved before the new basketball practice facility.
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RE: What's the latest on the IPF for football
Maybe the money was there but disappeared along with the disappearing invite to small12
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(01-10-2017 11:18 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 05:57 PM)wylioats Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:19 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  The money is not there

I was told the money WAS there. I was also told by 2 people within the athletic administration that ground breaking would take place right after the season and would be ready by next football season. A number of our players are also of the understanding that it will be ready by next season, as mentioned in a CA article where one player said, practicing in the cold or when it's raining won't be a problem next year when we're in our new indoor facility. I know for a fact Fuente was under the impression it'd be done under his watch (didn't happen), wonder what Norvell was told. Beginning to wonder if the damn thing will ever be built.

If the money is not there, they should not have said that it was. At this point, no one knows that more funding it needed. Personally, I don't understand why the new basketball facility was started first when we already had a pretty good facility and football is driving things. If football is the priority, then the IPF should have been funded and approved before the new basketball practice facility.

Two words: Bill Laurie
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(01-10-2017 11:29 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 11:18 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 05:57 PM)wylioats Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:19 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  The money is not there

I was told the money WAS there. I was also told by 2 people within the athletic administration that ground breaking would take place right after the season and would be ready by next football season. A number of our players are also of the understanding that it will be ready by next season, as mentioned in a CA article where one player said, practicing in the cold or when it's raining won't be a problem next year when we're in our new indoor facility. I know for a fact Fuente was under the impression it'd be done under his watch (didn't happen), wonder what Norvell was told. Beginning to wonder if the damn thing will ever be built.

If the money is not there, they should not have said that it was. At this point, no one knows that more funding it needed. Personally, I don't understand why the new basketball facility was started first when we already had a pretty good facility and football is driving things. If football is the priority, then the IPF should have been funded and approved before the new basketball practice facility.

Two words: Bill Laurie

My understanding is that he kicked in a big chunk and then expected the rest of us to help out. T or F?
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(01-10-2017 03:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:03 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Give til it hurts

Give until your sister hurts?

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which one was Time To Shine? The 1st or the 2nd fundraising event for the IPF?
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RE: What's the latest on the IPF for football
(01-10-2017 05:57 PM)wylioats Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 02:19 PM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  The money is not there

I was told the money WAS there. I was also told by 2 people within the athletic administration that ground breaking would take place right after the season and would be ready by next football season. A number of our players are also of the understanding that it will be ready by next season, as mentioned in a CA article where one player said, practicing in the cold or when it's raining won't be a problem next year when we're in our new indoor facility. I know for a fact Fuente was under the impression it'd be done under his watch (didn't happen), wonder what Norvell was told. Beginning to wonder if the damn thing will ever be built.

Agree in that the understanding was the commitments were in to meet the "Time to Shine" goal. Maybe some dried up like the Big XII expansion project? Don't know. IF they don't have the $ or the commitments any longer, the messaging to go back out with that information is VERY tricky, IMO.
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(01-11-2017 01:00 AM)Whale of a Guy Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:03 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Give til it hurts

Give until your sister hurts?

SNAP

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Oh snap !!!!
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What I have heard but wouldn't bet my life on it.

Laurie gave $10,000,000 but it was supposed to be all basketball.
A handful of others gave another $20,000,000. A bunch of people gave something over $7,000,000. Very little of this money was direct to one or the other of the two projects.

We are still short a couple of $million plus. We had long delays with Nashville. We have had delays due to on rules governing funding projects. We have not had all the money to move forward. We are still actively trying to get the rest of the money.

We have been to the well for numerous high dollar investments on campus over the past 10 years. We have a lot of projects in process now, a lot of state money tied up now in some of the projects now and committed for the future and a lot of money tied up with partnership projects that will be driven by fees. All of the projects have funders that are expected to participate in more than one campaign. Both Rhodes and CBU are both going to the same people for projects. We also have some of our bigger deep pocket real estate developers that are tied up deep with several projects from the square to the Pinch to South Main and other smaller projects.

Last I heard we should be seeing progress starting in/by March.

Is that all true? I don't know, its just what people I trust have said. I'm not sure anyone knows the complexities other than a few tight-lipped insiders. I'm not a monied insider. I sometimes get to hang around some of those that are.
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Rudd's quote in the CA...

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp.../96453608/

Q: The indoor practice facility. Where is that?

A: The indoor practice facility, a couple things I’ll share with you about that. We are going through a board transition as you know. So it looks like the goal is to have our board seated by the end of March, which is great, that the board would be active by the end of March. So we started the process through the Tennessee Board of Regents system and went through, in part, we got the basketball practice facility started, we’ve done a number of other projects, we have three other major projects in process, as you might be aware, and we presented a financial model for the approval of the indoor practice facility. And that financial model has changed. As part of what has happened with our fundraising, we have raised in the ballpark of $37 million. Part of the challenge though, is that some of those gifts are essentially what we refer to as backloaded, which means that they are gifts that won’t pay off for another 10 years, may not pay off for another 15 years, and so the challenge becomes the cash flow. So we have to have an adequate cash flow and the fundraising to pay for it. So in response to the cash flow challenge, I’ve come up with an alternative model that I’m actually going to present to our board very quickly when the board is seated. And I frankly hope to have that approved either in the first meeting or at the latest the second meeting. And I believe I’ll have it ready for the first meeting, with the expectation and the hope that we’ll be breaking ground by the end of April.

Q: Will it be easier to get things through with the new board structure?

A: I don’t know that it will be easier. It’s not the issue of getting things through. To give perspective, the Tennessee Board of Regents, they do a fabulous job. But there are 45 institutions in the Tennessee Board of Regents system. Six of those are universities, 39 of those are community colleges and technical schools. And of those six universities, the University of Memphis is the only Carnegie 2 major research university, the others are Carnegie 3s. So we really don’t have a peer from a research university in the system, and as a result we don’t get individual attention on the issues important to the University of Memphis. It’s about the capacity to arguably do two things: 1) To be able to shape an appropriate vision for the institution, and 2) then be able to resource it. Having our own independent board allows us to shape a vision that is unique to the University of Memphis, unique to this community, and then to resource it.

Q: When you say that the funding structure has changed, can you give us a sense what that means?

A: Basically, what we have looked at, in terms of the money we have raised, is how much of that do we have in terms of payment structure for the facility. The cash flow doesn’t support the payment structure that we originally presented. So I had to present a new structure, in terms of how much debt we would have to issue, what the time period is for the payment structure to have it paid off. And that’s something that I’m not going to go back through the Tennessee Board of Regents, it’s too late to do that because of the new board, so I’ll present it to the new board.

Q: Originally you said you expect to break ground in the fall of 2015. There is some skepticism out there. Is there reason for that?

A: We do have some skeptical fans, there are people out there who are skeptical. I will tell you there were people who were skeptical we would break ground on the basketball facility and we’re going to have that finished, it’s going to be one of the finest in the country. But we’re going to do it responsibly. We’re going to do it responsibly and understand what the overall demands are for the university as a whole and make sure that we have a coherent, sound financial model, and that’s what we’ve been doing. I’ve made a commitment to Tom (Bowen), I’ve made a commitment to the community, we’ll get it started, we’ll get it built and we’ll get it paid for. And it’s important for us.

Q: If you break ground in the spring, when does that mean it’s done?

A: My understanding is it’s a 10-12 month timeline for completion on that facility, on critical aspects in terms of a usable indoor facility. And then some of the office space, some of the other things may take a few months longer.

Q: It sort of gets to the fundamental issue, you can’t just wave a wand, in the end you need the resources to pay for things.

A: We need the resources to pay for things, and so that goes back to the question of having an independent board. We have a board that has some remarkably talented people who can help us lobby for adequate resources. The new board puts us in a position to be looked at uniquely, and then to actually lobby in accordance with the unique needs of the university, which is critical for us and critical for the future.
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Everyone laughed when I said the drastic drop off in BB revenue was affected the IPF-it is.
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(01-13-2017 09:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Everyone laughed when I said the drastic drop off in BB revenue was affected the IPF-it is.

Well, it affects everything. It was a significant source of our funding that has dried up. Hopefully, we can get that well going again soon.

It sounds as though the drop off has affected the original plan for how we were going to pay for it. So, they have had to adjust that plan, but because of the transition to our on BOR, we are having to wait until the new board is in place in March to present to new plan for approval. So, it sounds like we aren't screwed, we must have to wait to get approval of our updated plan.
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and now, the Original Poster, has the answer

straight from the horse's mouth
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(01-13-2017 10:08 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 09:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Everyone laughed when I said the drastic drop off in BB revenue was affected the IPF-it is.

Well, it affects everything. It was a significant source of our funding that has dried up. Hopefully, we can get that well going again soon.

It sounds as though the drop off has affected the original plan for how we were going to pay for it. So, they have had to adjust that plan, but because of the transition to our on BOR, we are having to wait until the new board is in place in March to present to new plan for approval. So, it sounds like we aren't screwed, we must have to wait to get approval of our updated plan.

I hope so because that facility is critical for recruiting. It's hard to replace $12-15M a year.
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(01-13-2017 09:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Everyone laughed when I said the drastic drop off in BB revenue was affected the IPF-it is.

That's not what Dr. Rudd said, but whatever.
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(01-13-2017 11:29 PM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 09:15 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Everyone laughed when I said the drastic drop off in BB revenue was affected the IPF-it is.

That's not what Dr. Rudd said, but whatever.



The problem is more about lack of people contributing to the campaign.
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(01-11-2017 01:49 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-11-2017 01:00 AM)Whale of a Guy Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 03:03 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Give til it hurts

Give until your sister hurts?

SNAP

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Oh snap !!!!
Are you off your meds again?
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