(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:23 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:03 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 07:50 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 07:07 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  I wonder how that undefeated record looks to the committee know? Anyway good luck WMU because a blowout loss could be very hurtful to the Mac Conference reputation going forward insofar as ever having a team with a great record getting respect. It's all on your guys know

I see the point you're trying to make, but when you call us the MAC Conference you lose some of your credibility.

This bowl season has been the Murphy's Law scenario for the MAC. I know that it's a lame excuse, but I really do think that WMU making the Cotton Bowl pushing our teams up a tie-in (yeah I know they don't exactly work in a rigid structure anymore) is making a difference with all of these close games. I'm pretty sure if our matchups were WMU-App State, Toledo-Troy, Ohio-Old Dominion, and so on (plus we would've played an overrated Colorado State team in Boise) the results would be quite different and we'd be singing a much different tune. Oh well, that's what you get when you send your team to Arlington.

That is a very good point, but I have to wonder what effect and 0 fer bowl season would have on the next Mac team that post an incredible record, especially if it's a blowout. I would equate it to a boxer with a 25-0 record yet had never faced a ranked opponent getting knocked out in the 2nd round. That would be devastating to that fighters reputation. Here's hoping for the best. Goodluck WMU, you'll have the entire conference on your backs

You're way overstating it. Each season pretty much stands on its own. The OOC wins of each season are far more important than the score of a game the previous season. But if you're right and next year's committee values the bowl season from previous year, I guess the MAC and our fellow G5 brothers in the AAC are screwed before we start the season based on this year's bowl performances.

Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

And if we lose and Temple wins, I'm preemptively asking you (and anyone else) not to even attempt to compare 6-6 Wake Forest to #8 Wisconsin.

(12-26-2016 09:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:23 PM)axeme Wrote:  You're way overstating it. Each season pretty much stands on its own. The OOC wins of each season are far more important than the score of a game the previous season. But if you're right and next year's committee values the bowl season from previous year, I guess the MAC and our fellow G5 brothers in the AAC are screwed before we start the season based on this year's bowl performances.

Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

The fact you don't know offhand when it was a whopping three years ago says how big of an impact it had.

You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

(12-26-2016 09:18 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:23 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:03 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 07:50 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I see the point you're trying to make, but when you call us the MAC Conference you lose some of your credibility.

This bowl season has been the Murphy's Law scenario for the MAC. I know that it's a lame excuse, but I really do think that WMU making the Cotton Bowl pushing our teams up a tie-in (yeah I know they don't exactly work in a rigid structure anymore) is making a difference with all of these close games. I'm pretty sure if our matchups were WMU-App State, Toledo-Troy, Ohio-Old Dominion, and so on (plus we would've played an overrated Colorado State team in Boise) the results would be quite different and we'd be singing a much different tune. Oh well, that's what you get when you send your team to Arlington.

That is a very good point, but I have to wonder what effect and 0 fer bowl season would have on the next Mac team that post an incredible record, especially if it's a blowout. I would equate it to a boxer with a 25-0 record yet had never faced a ranked opponent getting knocked out in the 2nd round. That would be devastating to that fighters reputation. Here's hoping for the best. Goodluck WMU, you'll have the entire conference on your backs

You're way overstating it. Each season pretty much stands on its own. The OOC wins of each season are far more important than the score of a game the previous season. But if you're right and next year's committee values the bowl season from previous year, I guess the MAC and our fellow G5 brothers in the AAC are screwed before we start the season based on this year's bowl performances.

Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

And if we lose and Temple wins, I'm preemptively asking you (and anyone else) not to even attempt to compare 6-6 Wake Forest to #8 Wisconsin.

Well see the AAC is gaining a reputation for going toe to toe with the p5 , so it would only play into the growing perception of the AAC being better than the other g5s whether it's true or not. If. USF and Temple win our last 2 bowls against the p5 that will perception wise be all that is remembered even though it might seem unfair

(12-26-2016 09:56 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:23 PM)axeme Wrote:  You're way overstating it. Each season pretty much stands on its own. The OOC wins of each season are far more important than the score of a game the previous season. But if you're right and next year's committee values the bowl season from previous year, I guess the MAC and our fellow G5 brothers in the AAC are screwed before we start the season based on this year's bowl performances.

Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

The fact you don't know offhand when it was a whopping three years ago says how big of an impact it had.

You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

Memphis got just got an equal beatdown by WKU but NIU didn't give up half a hundred vs Florida STATE. Hang in there Memphis might make it to a big game in your lifetime

(12-26-2016 10:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:56 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:23 PM)axeme Wrote:  You're way overstating it. Each season pretty much stands on its own. The OOC wins of each season are far more important than the score of a game the previous season. But if you're right and next year's committee values the bowl season from previous year, I guess the MAC and our fellow G5 brothers in the AAC are screwed before we start the season based on this year's bowl performances.

Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

The fact you don't know offhand when it was a whopping three years ago says how big of an impact it had.

You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

Memphis got just got an equal beatdown by WKU but NIU didn't give up half a hundred vs Florida STATE. Hang in there Memphis might make it to a big game in your lifetime

You are also absolutely correct, we got blasted by a very good WKU team. Unfortunately by it being a small also ran bowl it will be forgotten if we start off 4-0 next season with a win over UCLA , which is the difference between our beat down and the one NIU took

(12-26-2016 10:27 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 10:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:56 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 08:29 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  Well the AAC still has a chance to finish 3-4 with 2 P5 wins, but has any other conference gone 0 fer in recent history.?

The fact you don't know offhand when it was a whopping three years ago says how big of an impact it had.

You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

Memphis got just got an equal beatdown by WKU but NIU didn't give up half a hundred vs Florida STATE. Hang in there Memphis might make it to a big game in your lifetime

You are also absolutely correct, we got blasted by a very good WKU team. Unfortunately by it being a small also ran bowl it will be forgotten if we start off 4-0 next season with a win over UCLA , which is the difference between our beat down and the one NIU took

Guess you're really interested in this scenario, huh? Smh how many boards are you having this conversation. As I told you on our board the committee will evaluate this stuff on an individual basis. A loss in the Cotton bowl would certainly hurt the perception of the MAC, but its not going to make it impossible for a MAC team to get the access slot again. Hopefully WMU will win and this whole debate will be pointless.

(12-26-2016 11:12 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 10:27 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 10:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:56 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The fact you don't know offhand when it was a whopping three years ago says how big of an impact it had.

You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

Memphis got just got an equal beatdown by WKU but NIU didn't give up half a hundred vs Florida STATE. Hang in there Memphis might make it to a big game in your lifetime

You are also absolutely correct, we got blasted by a very good WKU team. Unfortunately by it being a small also ran bowl it will be forgotten if we start off 4-0 next season with a win over UCLA , which is the difference between our beat down and the one NIU took

Guess you're really interested in this scenario, huh? Smh how many boards are you having this conversation. As I told you on our board the committee will evaluate this stuff on an individual basis. A loss in the Cotton bowl would certainly hurt the perception of the MAC, but its not going to make it impossible for a MAC team to get the access slot again. Hopefully WMU will win and this whole debate will be pointless.

Your opinion is your opinion and I don't appreciate you stalking me all over the Internet. Contrary to you,I'm not over here trolling anyone. I'm just having a decent exchange with some pretty cool MAC fans about what I feel my be an unfair scenario conference wise should WMU were to unfortunately lose

(12-26-2016 11:26 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 11:12 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 10:27 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 10:10 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 09:56 PM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  You are correct , that's why I've wished WMU Goodluck because just like that whuppin NIU took on the big stage that would be all anyone would remember again, and also being 0 fer really wouldn't help

Memphis got just got an equal beatdown by WKU but NIU didn't give up half a hundred vs Florida STATE. Hang in there Memphis might make it to a big game in your lifetime

You are also absolutely correct, we got blasted by a very good WKU team. Unfortunately by it being a small also ran bowl it will be forgotten if we start off 4-0 next season with a win over UCLA , which is the difference between our beat down and the one NIU took

Guess you're really interested in this scenario, huh? Smh how many boards are you having this conversation. As I told you on our board the committee will evaluate this stuff on an individual basis. A loss in the Cotton bowl would certainly hurt the perception of the MAC, but its not going to make it impossible for a MAC team to get the access slot again. Hopefully WMU will win and this whole debate will be pointless.

Your opinion is your opinion and I don't appreciate you stalking me all over the Internet. Contrary to you,I'm not over here trolling anyone. I'm just having a decent exchange with some pretty cool MAC fans about what I feel my be an unfair scenario conference wise should WMU were to unfortunately lose

Fwiw I was just bored and felt like checking out some other boards and found your posts by coincidence, so no need to accuse anyone of stalking lmao

Additionally, it seemed like you were asking that question to be antagonistic, so I apologize if I came off as abrasive.

As for what the committee will do, who knows, who cares. Cross that bridge if and when we get there.

Well anyway, best of luck to you. You guys are now responsible for keeping the g5 undefeated streak going. I'll check with our commission to see if we can loan you all some of our p6 MOJO. Lol, I kid

WF 31 Temple 7 2nd Quarter

(12-23-2016 11:34 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  Losing Bowl Games by 3, 4, & 5 points!!!

You want to see a bonafide train wreck turn on Temple/Wake, holy crap does the AAC blow

(12-27-2016 04:59 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  WF 31 Temple 7 2nd Quarter

I don't know what's worse to them...... getting blown out by a mediocre ACC school or getting blown out by a MAC school with a winning record.

Weak Florist trying to give game away. WF in full fetal-position mode.

Temple came back 2nd half, shutting out WF... but WF just got a FG when deep in the red zone. 2nd and short with about 1.5 minutes left. Temple needs TD + 2ptr

TEMPLE BLOWS IT ON FIRST DRIVE.

WF TO WIN NOW....

Smoke it Tiger. Smoke it Good. Choke on 'dat. :)

Nice comeback try, had some shades of CMU-WKU to it.

But in the end, AAC champ falls to 6-6 Wake Forest.

Congrats AAC, your ten-win ranked champ just lost by a touchdown more to an ACC team than a 6-6 MAC team lost to a SEC school.

(12-27-2016 08:06 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Congrats AAC, your ten-win ranked champ just lost by a touchdown more to an ACC team than a 6-6 MAC team lost to a SEC school.

Yah we suck lol

(12-27-2016 08:06 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Congrats AAC, your ten-win ranked champ just lost by a touchdown more to an ACC team than a 6-6 MAC team lost to a SEC school.

Really though with the "SEC school"? Miss St is garbage, they were 5-7 lol.

Do you know what you call almost winning?... Losing

The MAC is still winless this bowl season. The AAC is having an extremely poor bowl season, but we are having an even worse one. This doesn't leave us any room to smack talk. Let's leave that to the other G5 that have actually won a game...