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Derek Sage
#Toledo's Derek Sage is expected to become #WAZZU's new WR coach, source tells @FoxSports.

Per Bruce Feldman on Twitter
12-23-2016 07:27 AM
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Appears to be official: http://www.cougcenter.com/2016/12/23/140...derek-sage

With the splash the WRs have made this season, it's not surprising - and he's a west coast guy, and can probably expect a bump in pay to over $200K per year. Everyone talks about how the MAC can't keep head coaches because of the salaries, but the real problem is how very little the assistants make. Those are the coaches that do the recruiting and groom the talent and make the game plans. But hard to attract top talent when the MAC schools pay <100K and everyone else is paying 200-400K, if not more.

Wonder what this does for the buicket-load of WR verbals that UT has for 17.
12-23-2016 08:31 AM
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I wonder if Lance Moore would be interested in helping his alma mater out? He did just retire from playing, and I would think a guy who had a solid NFL career could have some skills he could teach...
12-23-2016 10:36 AM
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(12-23-2016 10:36 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  I wonder if Lance Moore would be interested in helping his alma mater out? He did just retire from playing, and I would think a guy who had a solid NFL career could have some skills he could teach...

Doesn't Candle just hire his friends?
12-23-2016 10:52 AM
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The success of the receivers might have something to do with the QB and new QB coach, too. Prior to this season the receivers dropped a lot of balls.
12-23-2016 03:13 PM
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(12-23-2016 08:31 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Appears to be official: http://www.cougcenter.com/2016/12/23/140...derek-sage

With the splash the WRs have made this season, it's not surprising - and he's a west coast guy, and can probably expect a bump in pay to over $200K per year. Everyone talks about how the MAC can't keep head coaches because of the salaries, but the real problem is how very little the assistants make. Those are the coaches that do the recruiting and groom the talent and make the game plans. But hard to attract top talent when the MAC schools pay <100K and everyone else is paying 200-400K, if not more.

Wonder what this does for the buicket-load of WR verbals that UT has for 17.

Do they really make too little, or do the head coaches just make way too much?
12-24-2016 08:05 AM
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(12-24-2016 08:05 AM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  
(12-23-2016 08:31 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Appears to be official: http://www.cougcenter.com/2016/12/23/140...derek-sage

With the splash the WRs have made this season, it's not surprising - and he's a west coast guy, and can probably expect a bump in pay to over $200K per year. Everyone talks about how the MAC can't keep head coaches because of the salaries, but the real problem is how very little the assistants make. Those are the coaches that do the recruiting and groom the talent and make the game plans. But hard to attract top talent when the MAC schools pay <100K and everyone else is paying 200-400K, if not more.

Wonder what this does for the buicket-load of WR verbals that UT has for 17.

Do they really make too little, or do the head coaches just make way too much?

Yes and yes.
12-24-2016 09:24 AM
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We were very lucky to have him as a coach here to begin with considering he's not from this part of the country. We were fortunate that he stayed after Campbell left too. I wish him luck. My question is does he get to coach Washington State in their Bowl Game too?
12-28-2016 08:04 AM
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(12-23-2016 10:52 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(12-23-2016 10:36 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  I wonder if Lance Moore would be interested in helping his alma mater out? He did just retire from playing, and I would think a guy who had a solid NFL career could have some skills he could teach...

Doesn't Candle just hire his friends?

Excellent question: as a first year coach (or office manager, agency director, etc) my experience has been people bring in folks they trust and whose capabilities they know. If they're good, they start building a wish list of outsiders who can bring new things to the table and they begin to salt the staff with people from that list as vacancies occur. If they're bad or insecure they keep hiring loyalists and "Yes men". We'll get a good look at Candle's style as the coaching merry-go-round shakes out.
12-28-2016 08:20 AM
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Agree with northcoast - MAC HCs make enough that they hurt the $$ for assistants. I think this will be JCs issue with new assistant hires. Not enough $$ to do both. The assistants DO most of the recruiting. This will be a telling time for the Rockets. New hire,
keeping recruit commits and finding more gems like Cody T. Hope it ends up all good. Go Rockets.
12-28-2016 03:26 PM
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RE: Derek Sage
MAC Asst Salary Pool(USA Today):
Akron $919,220
Ball State $954,700
BGSUX $830,300
U Buffalo $927,911
CMU $940,108
EMU $888,245
Kent State $733,900
Miami U $897,288
NIU $921,018
Ohio U $920,307
UT $944,000
WMU $1,225,320

Brian George $166,000
Brian Wright $$146,00
Mike Ward $107,000
Marquel Blackwell $102,500
Mike Hallett $100,000
Derek Sage $87,500
Cory Robinson $85,000
Robby Discher $68,000
12-29-2016 07:40 AM
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Washington St's lowest paid asst coach was $201,500.
12-29-2016 06:51 PM
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