(12-25-2016 07:29 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:08 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:02 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 06:31 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 06:28 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  a lot of narrow MAC losses but I just don't put much importance into it since players and fans could care less anyway. They are exhibitions

MAC loses narrow games.

Houston beats the Big 12 Champ.

Houston is awful. Just awful

When is the last time the MAC had a win as good as Houston's win over eventual Big 12 champ #3 Oklahoma?

Houston is sitting home while WMU plays Wisconsin. Nuff said

You didn't answer the question.

If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

Which includes losses to Eastern Illinois (6-5) and Western Illinois (6-5). These aren't even losses to elite FCS programs like North Dakota St or Eastern Washington, these are losses at home to middle of the road FCS teams.

AAC vs. MAC Head to Head wins (Average PPG)
AAC: 4 (51.8)
MAC: 0 (12.5)

Average margin of victory: 39.3 points

And just for good measure...Massey Conference Ratings...
SEC 41.17 Mean Ranking
AAC 62.72
MAC 85.15

The AAC is ranked closer to the SEC than to the MAC. So saying the AAC and the MAC are pretty much the same is the equivalent of saying the SEC and the AAC are the same.

Nuff said.

(12-25-2016 07:35 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

Which includes losses to Eastern Illinois (6-5) and Western Illinois (6-5). These aren't even losses to elite FCS programs like North Dakota St or Eastern Washington, these are losses at home to middle of the road FCS teams.

AAC vs. MAC Head to Head wins (Average PPG)
AAC: 4 (51.8)
MAC: 0 (12.5)

Average margin of victory: 39.3 points

And just for good measure...Massey Conference Ratings...
SEC 41.17 Mean Ranking
AAC 62.72
MAC 85.15

The AAC is ranked closer to the SEC than to the MAC. So saying the AAC and the MAC are pretty much the same is the equivalent of saying the SEC and the AAC are the same.

Nuff said.

WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

(12-25-2016 07:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

Have some pride in your school and our sister institutions. I am retiring in July and I am very grateful for my NIU education. I am also proud of my colleagues that I have worked with that graduated from OU, BGSU and Miami University.

We are a conference of smaller schools in smaller cities but we have a rich athletic background and much to be proud of.

I enjoy attending NIU football games at home and more often on the road since I live and work in Ohio. In some ways the gameday experience at MAC schools is better than at Big Ten schools

[quote='PrideinthePack2' pid='13941261' dateline='1482712539']
If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

And the BIG 10: 2

But MadDawgz, you also say 'bowls don't matter' so you're trying to have it both ways. If "bowls don't matter" then the WMU Cotton Bowl slot is irrelevant and we go back to Houston had the far better win & schedule.

(12-25-2016 08:38 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

Have some pride in your school and our sister institutions. I am retiring in July and I am very grateful for my NIU education. I am also proud of my colleagues that I have worked with that graduated from OU, BGSU and Miami University.

Bikechuck, I retired this past July, have come to the conclusion that work is overrated. Enjoy your retirement, maybe see you at some MAC stadiums in the fall.
We are a conference of smaller schools in smaller cities but we have a rich athletic background and much to be proud of.

I enjoy attending NIU football games at home and more often on the road since I live and work in Ohio. In some ways the gameday experience at MAC schools is better than at Big Ten schools

(12-25-2016 07:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:35 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

Which includes losses to Eastern Illinois (6-5) and Western Illinois (6-5). These aren't even losses to elite FCS programs like North Dakota St or Eastern Washington, these are losses at home to middle of the road FCS teams.

AAC vs. MAC Head to Head wins (Average PPG)
AAC: 4 (51.8)
MAC: 0 (12.5)

Average margin of victory: 39.3 points

And just for good measure...Massey Conference Ratings...
SEC 41.17 Mean Ranking
AAC 62.72
MAC 85.15

The AAC is ranked closer to the SEC than to the MAC. So saying the AAC and the MAC are pretty much the same is the equivalent of saying the SEC and the AAC are the same.

Nuff said.

WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

The month long lecture continues.

I don't know why Mississippi State just went for it on 4th down but a FG on their last drive would (likely) win it for the Redhawks.

and another MAC choke job, typical.

And Mississippi State blocks the kick. Miami loses 17-16.

(12-26-2016 01:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:35 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

Which includes losses to Eastern Illinois (6-5) and Western Illinois (6-5). These aren't even losses to elite FCS programs like North Dakota St or Eastern Washington, these are losses at home to middle of the road FCS teams.

AAC vs. MAC Head to Head wins (Average PPG)
AAC: 4 (51.8)
MAC: 0 (12.5)

Average margin of victory: 39.3 points

And just for good measure...Massey Conference Ratings...
SEC 41.17 Mean Ranking
AAC 62.72
MAC 85.15

The AAC is ranked closer to the SEC than to the MAC. So saying the AAC and the MAC are pretty much the same is the equivalent of saying the SEC and the AAC are the same.

Nuff said.

WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

The month long lecture continues.

I hope you're paying attention lol. CLEALRY the MAC is garbage, thus WMU is garbage. Not hard to understand, but clearly for you it is. Maybe read a book or go back to school. Just another free lesson for you.

And the MAC s***s the bed once again.

(12-26-2016 02:17 PM)7huskie6 Wrote:  And the MAC s***s the bed once again.

I disagree ...crapping your own bed is getting a Boise vs NIU style beatdown. MIAMI played a very good game and could have easily won.

A whole lot of jokers took Miss St minus the 15pts merely because it was SEC vs MAC....how are they doin right now.

Didn't even see the game. The redhawks lost by only 1?

(12-26-2016 02:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Didn't even see the game. The redhawks lost by only 1?

They led basically the entire game but had both a PAT and game-winning FG attempt blocked.

I gotta say...... Nobody expected this to be a close game. SEC vs. MAC...... Let that sink in.

Will this help end this debate?

The MAC has a winning record against 1 conference. The Sunbelt and its 26-25. It has a losing record agianst 11 other conferences(3 of which are now defunct). So if you wanna argue the MAC is the worst conference, 2nd worst or maybe even 3rd worst...what are you gaining? It's in the bottom 3 and is not going anywhere.
This debate sounds like one side insisting Verne Troyer is taller than Peter Dinklage. What's the point?

(12-26-2016 02:16 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 01:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 07:35 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  If just playing in the Access Bowl makes this a "Nuff said" scenario, Houston "nuff said" the MAC last year while you continued to hype up the MAC.

This season...

Losses against FCS teams
AAC: 0
MAC: 4

Which includes losses to Eastern Illinois (6-5) and Western Illinois (6-5). These aren't even losses to elite FCS programs like North Dakota St or Eastern Washington, these are losses at home to middle of the road FCS teams.

AAC vs. MAC Head to Head wins (Average PPG)
AAC: 4 (51.8)
MAC: 0 (12.5)

Average margin of victory: 39.3 points

And just for good measure...Massey Conference Ratings...
SEC 41.17 Mean Ranking
AAC 62.72
MAC 85.15

The AAC is ranked closer to the SEC than to the MAC. So saying the AAC and the MAC are pretty much the same is the equivalent of saying the SEC and the AAC are the same.

Nuff said.

WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.

The month long lecture continues.

I hope you're paying attention lol. CLEALRY the MAC is garbage, thus WMU is garbage. Not hard to understand, but clearly for you it is. Maybe read a book or go back to school. Just another free lesson for you.

No jerka$$, your clearly don't listen. AAC is better, fine. You argue with 1,2 people on that. But your relentless assault vs. WMU is idiotic. Throw me some more stats about Navy, Houston and Boise St. Your "hypothetical" world you live in that everyone can beat WMU. They played easy schedule.Navy hurt QB. Houston would rule the MAC. They got "lucky." You blow like the wind. Always an excuse, always some fairy tale. By you logic, SEC sucks since MSU barely beat a crapass MAC team. You're jealousy for WMU is so obvious. Lose a bet or something? Lose a job or a girl to a WMU grad? Just say you f'n hate the MAC, hate WMU and walk away. We understand that as we have read you 50 or so posts on it.

Free lesson. Good one. You must have been a professor at Trump you. Or is that where you got your PHD and were the valedicktorian?

One more time though, just post some anti WMU stuff. Some stats on Houston...Boise...Navy. Why Houston and Navy got their asses kicked. Some excuses. How they would destroy WMU. I'll take notes professor.

(12-26-2016 02:16 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  WMU lucked into the sympathy Bowl with the easiest schedule I've seen in YEARS. They got beyond lucky. The MAC is complete trash. Football wise, fan base wise, stadium wise, money wise. Basically any way you measure it, the MAC is trash.
I hope you're paying attention lol. CLEALRY the MAC is garbage, thus WMU is garbage. Not hard to understand, but clearly for you it is. Maybe read a book or go back to school. Just another free lesson for you.

Reading your non-stop posts about WMU sucks, the MAC a) sucks, b) is complete trash, c) garbage, so clearly WMU is garbage......and Northern Illinois is a member of the MAC and up until this past fall, consistently regarded as one of the best in MAC football (translation, NIU was the top of the garbage pile)..
Which brings us to the ultimate question, why do you bother to read or post anything here? Clearly you need to find another school to root for; because it may come as news to you, but neither the Big XII, AAC or anyone else (including the Sun Belt) is extending an invitation. So NIU is in the MAC and will continue to be in the MAC. Question is, can the Huskies become competitive in the MAC a) again for football, and b) as an overall member minus the occasional exceptional (i.e., volleyball this past fall, men's soccer in years gone by)?