Is this like how WVU message board posters had sources saying the ACC would fall apart? Or how JMU posters have sources saying they're going to be getting a bid from a 1-A conference?

(11-30-2016 01:58 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Is this like how WVU message board posters had sources saying the ACC would fall apart? Or how JMU posters have sources saying they're going to be getting a bid from a 1-A conference?

Yeah but it is Delaware we're talking about here.

http://m.richmond.com/sports/college/sch...l?mode=jqm
Rocco on the whole coaching deal.

Yeah he's leaving. That interview would inspire absolutely no confidence in me as a Richmond fan.

(11-30-2016 02:31 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  Yeah he's leaving. That interview would inspire absolutely no confidence in me as a Richmond fan.

My exact thoughts.

(11-30-2016 02:31 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  Yeah he's leaving. That interview would inspire absolutely no confidence in me as a Richmond fan.

but the question is... Where does he go?

This is just going to be gold to watch play out...

Clearly, Rocco is being lured with money and the new athletic leadership at Delaware. However, could there be other schools interested as well. I don't think you make those comments if you are hoping to stay or get a pay increase. We are nearly to the time of the year when the Tribe to the Patriot, JMU to a Texas G5 conference, and the CAA disbanding talk starts anew. However, until the 5 major conferences end up with 64 seats and their own exclusive playoff, the expansion talk will continue.

For us, I actually think basketball might determine our ultimate conference location. For now, the CAA still seems like a good fit. But, Delaware, Villanova, Richmond and JMU are good barometers for possible changes.

"What is the vision for the future of the (Richmond) football program?"

So, Richmond and Nova are going Patriot?

Stir that pot!

For the Spider poster on their message board who thought it was time Jimmye was put out to pasture, but hoped Jimmye would be around for a little longer to lose to Rocco, I'd say how do you feel now, after getting your butts kicked and having your coaching staff be a revolving door, both with past coordinators, and with your head coach. Has to play havoc with current players and recruiting. Who knows, we may see some 2017 commits rethink before Feb signing. I can think of one WR target that would be nice to add on with Amonyae.

I think alot of internal conflicts, also, are going on with their administrative handling of the two reported rape incidents. Not an easy magnifying glass to be under for the school.

I would have to say, also, that even if Rocco is one of the highest paid FCS coaches, it is still less than 50% of Mooney's salary at $1.1 mill, which is totally unjustified in comparison. I'd feel like a stepchild, also.

Many Spider alums have not been happy with their current AD, since Miller retired in 2012. Rocco was hired by Miller.

If Rocco leaves, have to wonder if they'd take a chance and bring London back.

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He is obviously frustrated, with the "vision", and there are a lot of things that go into a program's vision that is huge to a coach, but also probably because he only has a contract thru 2017. Mooney goes to sweet 16 and they extend him 10 years. In 2012, Rocco takes over a 3-8 team and makes them 8-3, but only gets extended thru 2017. And, despite all the success the past few years, still has a contract only thru 2017. So, that, combined with a lack of vision, I don't blame him for looking elsewhere. Delaware has already contacted him. If they show "vision" and contract security, look for him to go.

It has been rumored, for a couple years, that Richmond leadership could see the same thing that we have discussed on this board. That would be that it makes more sense for a school with non-BCS Football to become more Basketball-centric. Again, it is the same reasoning as we have discussed here, you can make a bigger splash when you play on the same "level" as the big-time schools of the sport. You will get much more national publicity for your University than what is available from playing a sport on a "lower level".

Their current AD reportedly feels that way, in that the same amount of money can go much farther on a 15 scholarship/5 coach basketball program, than on a 63 scholarship/8 coach football program. This doesn't mean they are looking to get rid of football, just not fund it any more than it is now, while basketball would get more funding in the future. This is probably the reason that Mooney is also on the hot seat this year. If you are going to go all-out for basketball, you have to have a coach who can get you to the top. Mooney needs to win this year.

Looks like Rocco may just want to go somewhere that the leadership of the school still wants to make football their #1 sport.

Richmond had a poor loss to Bucknell last night. I've seen a couple of their games on tv this fall and the Spiders are, at best, mediocre. They have a very good player in Cline but not much else.

Losing to Bucknell puts more pressure on Mooney as their program continues to sputter.

Big article in this morning's RTD about Mooney considering leaving after the playoffs.

I think you meant Rocco, not Mooney.

Sorry, I did mean Rocco. But the way the hoops team is going in a downward trend the past couple of years Mooney may join him and go too-although not of his own volition.

The Spiders basketball team is having much trouble competing in the A-10 against the likes of Rhode Island, Davidson, VCU, St.Louis and others (joining George Mason, by the way, in this). Those two should have stayed in the CAA.

Other than Davidson, these other A-10 schools are academically below UR.

(11-30-2016 11:26 PM)billymac Wrote:  It has been rumored, for a couple years, that Richmond leadership could see the same thing that we have discussed on this board. That would be that it makes more sense for a school with non-BCS Football to become more Basketball-centric. Again, it is the same reasoning as we have discussed here, you can make a bigger splash when you play on the same "level" as the big-time schools of the sport. You will get much more national publicity for your University than what is available from playing a sport on a "lower level".

Their current AD reportedly feels that way, in that the same amount of money can go much farther on a 15 scholarship/5 coach basketball program, than on a 63 scholarship/8 coach football program. This doesn't mean they are looking to get rid of football, just not fund it any more than it is now, while basketball would get more funding in the future. This is probably the reason that Mooney is also on the hot seat this year. If you are going to go all-out for basketball, you have to have a coach who can get you to the top. Mooney needs to win this year.

Looks like Rocco may just want to go somewhere that the leadership of the school still wants to make football their #1 sport.

So funneling all the money from a successful football program to the basketball program that hasn't been all that successful in recent years made the football program resentful. Huh. So maybe this is why W&M hasn't done what posters suggest and shift money from football to basketball.

William and Mary: has let football have its way, has not separated basketball from the other Olympic sports, and has stayed in the all-sports CAA ... and flourished in the CAA

Richmond: is going to do what with football?, has separated basketball from the other Olympic sports, and has left the all-sports CAA ... and has foundered in the A-10.

These two schools are so similar athletically, and face similar issues, and yet have taken different routes.

The idea that Rocco is even considering leaving UofR football ... has to be very unsettling for Spider football fans. Furthermore, if Spider hoops can't make a dent in the A-10, mediocrity could settle in for the two main Spider sports.

This is going to be interesting to follow.

I don't know that I would say Richmond basketball has floundered in the A-10 (I know that's unpopular here).

They lost 6 of their last 8 last year to finish .500, which is pretty down for them. The year before they went to the NIT quarterfinal and finished 21-14. They haven't finished below .500 in a decade and have a Sweet 16 in that time (which I'd be willing to venture got them as much attention as their FCS National Title) against pretty tough competition.

I just want to remind everyone that Richmond cancelled our annual basketball series (the most played for both schools) because they refused to rotate home and homes with W&M. They clearly think a lot of their program.

I guess it's in the eye of the beholder as to whether they have foundered after leaving the CAA for the A-10:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond...basketball