Remember when we all had a nice laugh at the records in this article back in August? Maybe there is some truth to it after all.

Arkansas State (6-4, 6-0 in conference)

http://www.forgotten5.com/2016/08/23/the...ower-five/

(11-18-2016 01:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I'm sorry we embarrassed everyone in New Orleans last year. It was horribly uncompetitive I mean it was tied with just over 20 minutes left despite our starting RB going out the first drive and our best WR (on the Falcons practice squad now) going out in the first half.

Offense wasn't the problem. A problem, but not THE problem.

(11-18-2016 02:48 PM)_x_ Wrote:  We can't beat you. Nobody can. stAte is the best team in the conference.

It would be nice if you could beat teams from other conferences though so we all didn't have to collectively feel so bad about ourselves. And so other conferences didn't have that stat to point to.

I keep thinking at some point you guys will realize nobody is insulting stAte, but its just not getting through....

You're the sophomore that rides the pine and only touches the ball when shagging rebounds in warm-ups, that criticizes the senior starter who plays ever minute. Just shut up.

And you're the starter who plays every minute that looks really good against his teammates in practice. Unfortunately the team loses every real game they play.

I may be the sophomore that never plays. But I'm not criticizing the senior starter, I'm criticizing our entire team cause we can't win a game.

(11-18-2016 11:38 AM)LatahCounty Wrote:  This conference as a whole was actually far better OOC this year than anytime since I've been paying attention. The fact that Arkansas State fixed their problems and is rolling through the conference again says more about them than it does about the Sun Belt. And one Georgia Southern fan is projecting his frustration about his team onto the whole conference, which objectively doesn't deserve it this year.

Very well said.

I just wish App State could have a crack at Arkansas State. Oh well.

Hats off to A-State.

(11-18-2016 03:18 PM)_x_ Wrote:  And you're the starter who plays every minute that looks really good against his teammates in practice. Unfortunately the team loses every real game they play.

I may be the sophomore that never plays. But I'm not criticizing the senior starter, I'm criticizing our entire team cause we can't win a game.

Our "team" had won more games than in years past. USA over SDSU. USA over Mississippi State. Troy over S. Miss. App State over Akron. App State over Old Dominion. Probably several others I don't remember off the top of my head.

(11-18-2016 12:39 PM)_x_ Wrote:  I think the concern from some of the posters is: how confident do we feel about stAte in their bowl game representing the Sun Belt as the conference champions? I think some posters see the 0-4 start and are nervous about their ability to show well. It seems like everyone wants to see them do well in the postseason, I know I do, it's just some of us are nervous about their ability to do so. Nobody wants to see another debacle like the La Tech game last year.

The hope is that things have been turned around for good and stAte can represent us well in their bowl game. I think being apprehensive about that is a valid concern though. The posters expressing those concerns don't mean any ill will towards stAte and don't deserve to be attacked.

I agree with you that State's ability to represent well may be questionable in the post season but...........if state wins the conference and doesn't do well, the question then becomes what would you expect from the number two, three or fourth place teams?

(11-18-2016 02:48 PM)_x_ Wrote:  We can't beat you. Nobody can. stAte is the best team in the conference.

It would be nice if you could beat teams from other conferences though so we all didn't have to collectively feel so bad about ourselves. And so other conferences didn't have that stat to point to.

I keep thinking at some point you guys will realize nobody is insulting stAte, but its just not getting through....

You are just too brilliant for us.

We typically play a tougher OOC schedule than a lot of G5s including some in our league. Last year we had USC, Toledo and Mizzou. We usually play an SEC team on the road and not UK or Vandy (they won't play us). When we have played peers we usually win at our place and lose on the road (Tulsa, Army, USU, SMU, Memphis). We had not lost to an FCS since Joe Hollis was coach 15 years or so ago. Our bowl opponents are usually strong because we are the conference champion (#25 Kent St., NIU when they were a powerhouse, La Tech with multiple NFL draftees, 10 win Ball State, Toledo).

We just don't have embarrassing OOC losses. We lose a lot of them but they are not upsets. The difficult OOC probably contributes to our conference success.

(11-18-2016 02:20 PM)_x_ Wrote:  Not one person has blamed stAte or even said anything bad about stAte.

You guys are a bunch of thin-skinned pansies.

We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  People accuse GS fans of bein arrogant and bragging-- notwithstanding this year. State fans have replaced us

Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

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(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  People accuse GS fans of bein arrogant and bragging-- notwithstanding this year. State fans have replaced us

Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  People accuse GS fans of bein arrogant and bragging-- notwithstanding this year. State fans have replaced us

Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  People accuse GS fans of bein arrogant and bragging-- notwithstanding this year. State fans have replaced us

Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

(11-18-2016 08:26 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  People accuse GS fans of bein arrogant and bragging-- notwithstanding this year. State fans have replaced us

Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

We are doing awful, nice of you to ask but I thought the subject you and I were discussing was Southern's 1st two seasons?

In 14, we would have beaten ASU soundly. You had a bad run defense, we would have ran for big yardage. In 15, I can't really say. It probably would have depended on when in the season the game was played. IIRC, ASU had some key injuries that really altered some of your games in a bad way.

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(11-18-2016 08:33 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:26 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

We are doing awful, nice of you to ask but I thought the subject you and I were discussing was Southern's 1st two seasons?

In 14, we would have beaten ASU soundly. You had a bad run defense, we would have ran for big yardage. In 15, I can't really say. It probably would have depended on when in the season the game was played. IIRC, ASU had some key injuries that really altered some of your games in a bad way.

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That's too kind. Even our DC who just held 25th ranked Troy to 3 points last night stated that stAte couldn't stop a hard charging marching band in '14.

StAte fans cant seem to comprehend its not good for the conference that they lose all ooc and then win conf.

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Seriously? We all agree that losing like we did OOC was a travesty. Then all you guys come over here telling us we should lose a conference game for the "good of the conference". Well just how damn good is this conference if we play like that and then you yokels can beat us in conference? Who's that on? It ain't us. Shut the hell up until you knock us off the throne. Until then you're just pissing in the wind.

(11-18-2016 08:33 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:26 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 02:21 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  Let's see.......winning five titles out of the last six years will do that to a teams fan base. Your fan base was arrogant just based off your FCS success.

(11-18-2016 05:38 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  We had a few arrogant fans at first. Then many of the other Belt fans told us we couldn't compete for x amount of years because the jump was going to be too tough. That is when the real arrogance from GS came about. So many belt fans on here don't seem to remember that.
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Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

We are doing awful, nice of you to ask but I thought the subject you and I were discussing was Southern's 1st two seasons?

In 14, we would have beaten ASU soundly. You had a bad run defense, we would have ran for big yardage. In 15, I can't really say. It probably would have depended on when in the season the game was played. IIRC, ASU had some key injuries that really altered some of your games in a bad way.

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We're doing this again? Georgia Southern were champs, no ifs ands or buts. They did exactly what the requirements were to be champs. Nobody else matched them in that. End of story.

(11-18-2016 09:53 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:33 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:26 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 06:40 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  Well keep in mind that your first two seasons in the Belt King Karl protected your team from having to play ASU or ULL, two teams that ruled the Belt at the time.

Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

We are doing awful, nice of you to ask but I thought the subject you and I were discussing was Southern's 1st two seasons?

In 14, we would have beaten ASU soundly. You had a bad run defense, we would have ran for big yardage. In 15, I can't really say. It probably would have depended on when in the season the game was played. IIRC, ASU had some key injuries that really altered some of your games in a bad way.

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We're doing this again? Georgia Southern were champs, no ifs ands or buts. They did exactly what the requirements were to be champs. Nobody else matched them in that. End of story.

Come on ark30inf, this is what makes message boards fun!

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(11-18-2016 09:42 PM)Check Yosef Wrote:  StAte fans cant seem to comprehend its not good for the conference that they lose all ooc and then win conf.

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I don't give a **** what the league looks like.

I care about finishing the season 9-4.


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(11-18-2016 09:58 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 09:53 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:33 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 08:26 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(11-18-2016 07:12 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  Or maybe he was protecting you?

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If that helps you sleep at night keep thinking it. So how is GS doing this year?

We are doing awful, nice of you to ask but I thought the subject you and I were discussing was Southern's 1st two seasons?

In 14, we would have beaten ASU soundly. You had a bad run defense, we would have ran for big yardage. In 15, I can't really say. It probably would have depended on when in the season the game was played. IIRC, ASU had some key injuries that really altered some of your games in a bad way.

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We're doing this again? Georgia Southern were champs, no ifs ands or buts. They did exactly what the requirements were to be champs. Nobody else matched them in that. End of story.

Come on ark30inf, this is what makes message boards fun!

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Meh, I don't like jacking with something fairly won.

Playing white whale for the Gorton fishermen is more worthwhile.