(11-17-2016 12:40 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 11:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 10:50 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 10:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 10:32 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  How about the Sugar bowl?

And you guys love to come back with the "Well USC..." shoot I'm realistic lol.

The only SEC team with a Sugar Bowl HFA is LSU, and in recent decades they have rarely played there - 5 times in the last 50 years.

But yes, chalk that one up if you want.

Oh please, I have driven to New Orleans in a day and driven back the same day from Tuscaloosa. Get a Big 10 fan to try and do that.

Tuscaloosa is 300 miles from New Orleans. I guess that means when Maryland plays in New York City or Syracuse plays in Philly, those are "home games" too.

Again way to twist things around. Driving up north is nothing like driving in the south. You can easily make a 292 mile trip in 4 hours or less. I frequently make trips like this for my job.

It took me an hour to drive 20 miles last time I was in Philly.

You keep setting up flimsy obstacles, and I keep swatting them aside. Last time, it was miles. When I blew a tank-sized hole through that, you come back with ... traffic congestion?



Back to the drawing board ....

(11-17-2016 10:49 PM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  

(11-17-2016 10:15 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  No one is debating what the bowls are for. This whole side track debate started because Quo in his quest to always be correct was stating that bowls are a better way of measuring success than normal home/home games. And multiple people have brought up numerous reasons as to why that is not true.

I have been a long time supporter of having more northern bowl games. Even the Rose Bowl like Quo pointed out in some weird jab as USC is unfair. Whenever USC or UCLA make the game it's a home game. And even when it's someone like Stanford or Cal it's still essentially a home game. While the Big 10 teams and fans have to travel across the country.

Which the B1G agreed too.

Even still. I don't place a lot on bowl games. For example.

The AAC was clearly the #1 G5 conference last season and I think they won 1 game. Doesn't change the fact they were the #1 G5 conference in a season long competition.

Don't get me wrong: I agree that the whole season has to count.

That said, those who say bowls are typically characterized by less motivation than regular games are wrong, it's clear that motivation in bowl games tends, on average, to be higher. There are some cases where that's not the case (e.g., big brand team playing cinderella G5 in an NY6), but those are exceptions.

Also, bowls tend to match like vs like (e.g., PAC #5 vs Big 12 #5), whereas regular season OOC games are often skewed. That alone makes a mockery of flimsy alleged factors like players not wanting to get injured in a bowl game.

But in the end, I agree bowls have to be factored in with regular season results to create a total picture of conference strength.