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Bad news for liberals - the movie about hunting deplorables will be delayed.

The Hunt" follows 12 conservatives who discover they have been kidnapped and brought to The Manor, a hunting ground where liberal billionaires pay top dollar to hunt them for sport.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/un...li=BBnbfcL
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Treat immogration like a job interview

"When technical qualifications and cultural fit are suggested as elements of immigration policy, adversarial reactions far surpass the typical reflexive and groundless accusations of racism routinely hurled against conservatives. Indeed, the hysteria in such circumstances is reminiscent of the scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the Ark of the Covenant is opened, and the faces of Nazis melt right off."
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(08-14-2019 01:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Treat immogration like a job interview

"When technical qualifications and cultural fit are suggested as elements of immigration policy, adversarial reactions far surpass the typical reflexive and groundless accusations of racism routinely hurled against conservatives. Indeed, the hysteria in such circumstances is reminiscent of the scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the Ark of the Covenant is opened, and the faces of Nazis melt right off."

Another good opportunity for the U.S. to reform some of its laws / policies based on how other countries operate - see Canada, which unlike the US, actually has an immigration policy that is relatively quick and is designed to allow immigrants that are going to add to the country (points-based system).

https://time.com/5634351/canada-high-ski...mmigrants/
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(08-14-2019 03:41 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 01:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Treat immogration like a job interview
"When technical qualifications and cultural fit are suggested as elements of immigration policy, adversarial reactions far surpass the typical reflexive and groundless accusations of racism routinely hurled against conservatives. Indeed, the hysteria in such circumstances is reminiscent of the scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the Ark of the Covenant is opened, and the faces of Nazis melt right off."
Another good opportunity for the U.S. to reform some of its laws / policies based on how other countries operate - see Canada, which unlike the US, actually has an immigration policy that is relatively quick and is designed to allow immigrants that are going to add to the country (points-based system).
https://time.com/5634351/canada-high-ski...mmigrants/

I think Canda's law would be a good starting point for developing a rational US immigration policy. The problem that we have is that we haven't had a logical or rational policy for so long that it has become almost an "anything goes" situation that satisfies nobody.
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Police union rips Warren

Trump is often accused of using divisive rhetoric. Are these tweets by Warren and Harris not divisive?

Trump is often accused of lying. Are these tweets not lies?

Is the pot as black as the kettle?

No. The pot is much, much blacker. The kettle says so.
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(08-14-2019 03:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 03:41 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 01:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Treat immogration like a job interview
"When technical qualifications and cultural fit are suggested as elements of immigration policy, adversarial reactions far surpass the typical reflexive and groundless accusations of racism routinely hurled against conservatives. Indeed, the hysteria in such circumstances is reminiscent of the scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the Ark of the Covenant is opened, and the faces of Nazis melt right off."
Another good opportunity for the U.S. to reform some of its laws / policies based on how other countries operate - see Canada, which unlike the US, actually has an immigration policy that is relatively quick and is designed to allow immigrants that are going to add to the country (points-based system).
https://time.com/5634351/canada-high-ski...mmigrants/

I think Canda's law would be a good starting point for developing a rational US immigration policy. The problem that we have is that we haven't had a logical or rational policy for so long that it has become almost an "anything goes" situation that satisfies nobody.

Canada, quite simply, could have any immigration policy they feel like having because enforcement is never going to be a problem for them. There is for all practical purposes no access to Canada except through airports, which are easily controlled. There is easy access across their southern border of course but on the south side of that border happens to be a country with even greater attractiveness to people; indeed, the most attractive country on this planet, ever.

The problem is that the unique historical experience of this country involved "open borders" migration. There is a fundamental American unease, then, with *enforcing* any sort of immigration restriction, and I'm not sure how we ever reconcile that. Hell, I'm a law-and-order conservative but I do personally know people in this country illegally and I would never turn them in. I was lucky to be born here and the whole idea of telling someone who simply wasn't so lucky "too bad, so sad" is anathema to the American DNA, it seems to me. I think we should enforce the laws we have but I could live with going back to the "not likely to become a public charge" standard, with no quotas or caps. Or maybe we just make it very easy to become a tax-paying permanent resident or guest worker but with limited access to social services and a long wait to become a voting citizen, although that doesn't strike me as very societally healthy in the long run.
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(08-16-2019 01:18 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 03:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 03:41 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 01:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Treat immogration like a job interview
"When technical qualifications and cultural fit are suggested as elements of immigration policy, adversarial reactions far surpass the typical reflexive and groundless accusations of racism routinely hurled against conservatives. Indeed, the hysteria in such circumstances is reminiscent of the scene in “Raiders of the Lost Ark” in which the Ark of the Covenant is opened, and the faces of Nazis melt right off."
Another good opportunity for the U.S. to reform some of its laws / policies based on how other countries operate - see Canada, which unlike the US, actually has an immigration policy that is relatively quick and is designed to allow immigrants that are going to add to the country (points-based system).
https://time.com/5634351/canada-high-ski...mmigrants/

I think Canda's law would be a good starting point for developing a rational US immigration policy. The problem that we have is that we haven't had a logical or rational policy for so long that it has become almost an "anything goes" situation that satisfies nobody.

Canada, quite simply, could have any immigration policy they feel like having because enforcement is never going to be a problem for them. There is for all practical purposes no access to Canada except through airports, which are easily controlled. There is easy access across their southern border of course but on the south side of that border happens to be a country with even greater attractiveness to people; indeed, the most attractive country on this planet, ever.

The problem is that the unique historical experience of this country involved "open borders" migration. There is a fundamental American unease, then, with *enforcing* any sort of immigration restriction, and I'm not sure how we ever reconcile that. Hell, I'm a law-and-order conservative but I do personally know people in this country illegally and I would never turn them in. I was lucky to be born here and the whole idea of telling someone who simply wasn't so lucky "too bad, so sad" is anathema to the American DNA, it seems to me. I think we should enforce the laws we have but I could live with going back to the "not likely to become a public charge" standard, with no quotas or caps. Or maybe we just make it very easy to become a tax-paying permanent resident or guest worker but with limited access to social services and a long wait to become a voting citizen, although that doesn't strike me as very societally healthy in the long run.

The should be no automatic conferral of citizenship without the applicant going through the naturalization process.

The first thing I would change is to eliminate the automatic citizenship by birth. I would limit it to those who have at least one parent who is an American citizen. Make that change and watch the Democratic party lose interest in immigration.

Make it easy to be a guest worker but require the filing of a 1040 and the withholding of 20% from wages, with big penalties for the employers. They will file for the refund.

Make the guest worker status one year at a time, but renewable.

A 60 day amnesty for those here now to either get the guest worker cards or to apply for citizenship.

Then zero tolerance.
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