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Bad news for all the democrats

We must stop this madness!!! Vote Democrat!! Straight ticket!!! They will get us back to Obama levels!!!!
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Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.
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(11-01-2018 01:13 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
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Quote:I didn't realize that the activists were enforcing the immigration system.

Are you willingly obtuse here Lad? Or are you just not that much in tune with the real world?

In this case activists are telling people how to circumvent or void the law. When a law is circumvented or voided (by whatever means) it is less enforced. The means and the result should be blindingly obvious. I guess not to you.

Relatedly, are we straight about your interesting new attempt to redefine 'defang'?


I don't get how my response is redefining the word "defang."

Perhaps by your redefinition that 'defanging' apparently required lawmakers? Or perhaps by your further requirement that it actually be 'Republican' lawmakers.

Quote:In the definition you provided, they provided a real-world example of the word and referenced the NRA's ability to "defang one of the law's provisions." And when they used it, they did so by lobbying to alter a portion of the law.

Amazing. Activists working to short circuit a law. How about that? By the way, defang isnt a synonym for new legislation. Hate to burst your bubble.

Quote:I've never once heard someone use the term "defang" to describe how people have gotten around a provision - it's meant to describe how a provision has lost its bite, i.e. been defanged.

I've heard it used in various ways. But all those are anecdotes so they really dont mean ****.

So, in my thirty five year+ professional career I *have* heard it used in that manner. In your much longer career you havent. Glad we have established that.

Quote:I'd agree with your use if you said that the Obama administration had, say, loosened asylum seeking requirements, and thus the enforcement was defanged. But your application to stating that people identifying a work around of a loophole that has always been there as having "defanged" the law is strange.

The use of a loophole to weaken other components works to defang those other components. Geezus.

So the concept of telling everyone to apply to for asylum, no matter the basis, does not defang the default. Got it.

Quote:That's why I kept assuming you were talking about law makers - you know the people who could actually change laws to remove its fangs. Regardless, if that's how you want to apply that word, then I'm glad you cleared it up for me. It's just an odd choice that caused some confusion.

Glad to teach you that there is more than one way to and more than one group able to 'defang' a provision of the law. You are literally the first person in my professional existence that hasnt clued into that (those) concepts.

Quote:Especially since the legal system is still being enforced -

Sure. For those dumbasses that dont know the short circuit magic words. Funny that.

Quote:all those who are being told how to enter the amnesty program

You mean the 'asylum process', right? Or are we entering another Lad-world redefinition here?

Quote:will still have to go through the entire process and will likely be rejected (based on recent acceptance percentages). So even there, not seeing how the amnesty law has been "defanged." Or am I missing an area where enforcement has decreased?

Please state where I am stating the 'amnesty law' (whatever the **** that is) has been defanged?

I am unequivocally stating that the asylum provisions are being misused to defang the default process with illegal immigrants which should apply to the *vast* majority of those claiming 'asylum'. The stock 'myna bird' recitations are being taught en masse to illegal immigrants in order to defang and/or short circuit the standard procedures. Why is that concept too hard for you to fathom?

You seem to be gleeful for that end result. I am completely aware of that. Color me shocked.

Sorry to get your panties all bunched up over the use of the word 'defang'. Good god.......

Tanq, I still don't get your point.

Even for those who would be lying to get asylum (my bad on mistyping amnesty yesterday), they still have to go through the asylum process. They will have to state their case and will likely be deported.

So I don't get how any part of that system has been defanged, because these immigrants can't get around the eventual ruling. All they can do is delay the inevitable.

And statistics show us that those who have a hearing set, end up showing up for that hearing on an overwhelming basis (far greater than 50% of the time). That appearance rate could go even higher, depending on how those asylum seekers are tracked.

People who are advocating that immigrants should knowingly lie and take advantage of our asylum process are bad actors. But since there is a process in place to handle those people (a review system and eventual deportation), I think the furor is overblown.
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(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.
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(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.
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(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11
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(11-02-2018 10:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11

I gave you Pueblo sin Fronteras three days ago. I guess you don't read my links in your zeal to oppose me.

We can call it this or that, but you hit the nail on the head when you ask where their support, financial and other wise comes from. I doubt they exist in a vacuum. Maybe their funding goes back to this

Maybe it goes back to other groups. But who is on the side of more immigrants coming in? Democrats or Republicans? hard to imagine the funding is coming from Republicans. Maybe it is the Russians.

Using thr common sense I know you have, where do you think PSF gets its funding? The RNC? I suspect it is not the Koch brothers. But I cannot give you a link that says it is not the Koch brothers.

In any case, we should welcome every person from the south of us, as long as they say the magic word. After all, it only makes us richer. If 7,000 is a help, then 27,000,000 would be a great boon.

I get very tired of whitebread liberals who have never been closer to an illegal than passing them in the yard on the way into their mansion agitating for their wholesale inclusion. Especially when those whitebread liberals refuse to listen to people with first hand experience. I bet if these 7,000 were to be resettled in the area that some of these whitebread liberals live in (e.g., Austin, Fort Bend, or next to you, Lad), we would hear a loud chorus of NIMBY.

There are reasons there are locks on your doors, and there are reasons for immigration laws.

I think Lad is arguing now to argue.
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https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profi...fronteras/

https://sovereignnations.com/2018/04/03/...fronteras/

"In the letter, Pueblo Sin Fronteras Demands that the United States government end the deportation of illegal immigrants and alleges that those illegally crossing the border into the United States be treated as “citizens.”
Read more at https://sovereignnations.com/2018/04/03/...S9s70iR.99"

"The demands of Pueblo Sin Fronteras echo the en vogue rhetoric over the past several months demanding voting rights and recognition of citizenship for persons illegally in the United States. This current reflexive argumentation mirrors the policies of George Soros’ Open Society Foundations and is one of the tenets of the concept of Open Societies. As stated in the home page of Sovereign Nations, the concept of Open Societies differs from Sovereign Nations in that they favor a globalist model where the sovereignty of nations must be subordinated to international law and global institutions. In contrast, the United States was founded as a Sovereign Nation with the power and ability to govern itself without the interference of external influence.
Read more at https://sovereignnations.com/2018/04/03/...S9s70iR.99"

"The demands of George Soros, Open Society Foundations and the related Pueblo Sin Fronteras directly challenge the integrity of the constitution of the United States, our nation’s laws, and our ability to control the flow of people in and out of our national boundaries. The actions encouraged by Pueblo Sin Fronteras constitute a violation of Federal Law:
Read more at https://sovereignnations.com/2018/04/03/...S9s70iR.99"

https://capitalresearch.org/article/the-...-caravans/

"She is apparently active in Democratic Party politics, too. "
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(11-02-2018 10:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11

According to Sen. Ted there's some question regarding whether or not Rep. Beto's campaign is funding the caravan(s):

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Two basic Qs every reporter should ask Beto today: (1) should the “caravan” be allowed to cross illegally into Texas? (Beto refuses to answer.) And (2) did your campaign dollars illegally fund their doing so?
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(11-02-2018 11:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11

I gave you Pueblo sin Fronteras three days ago. I guess you don't read my links in your zeal to oppose me.

We can call it this or that, but you hit the nail on the head when you ask where their support, financial and other wise comes from. I doubt they exist in a vacuum. Maybe their funding goes back to this

Maybe it goes back to other groups. But who is on the side of more immigrants coming in? Democrats or Republicans? hard to imagine the funding is coming from Republicans. Maybe it is the Russians.

Using thr common sense I know you have, where do you think PSF gets its funding? The RNC? I suspect it is not the Koch brothers. But I cannot give you a link that says it is not the Koch brothers.

In any case, we should welcome every person from the south of us, as long as they say the magic word. After all, it only makes us richer. If 7,000 is a help, then 27,000,000 would be a great boon.

I get very tired of whitebread liberals who have never been closer to an illegal than passing them in the yard on the way into their mansion agitating for their wholesale inclusion. Especially when those whitebread liberals refuse to listen to people with first hand experience. I bet if these 7,000 were to be resettled in the area that some of these whitebread liberals live in (e.g., Austin, Fort Bend, or next to you, Lad), we would hear a loud chorus of NIMBY.

There are reasons there are locks on your doors, and there are reasons for immigration laws.

I think Lad is arguing now to argue.

No, it's not that I don't read your links in my zeal to oppose you, it's that I just can't always remember everything that is posted here. It's not like everyone's posts are short and succinct...

And I bet that people supporting these groups are liberal or members of the DNC - but do you think that, as conspiracy theorists on the right have suggested, that the funding is politically motivated to bring in more migrants to help win elections and organized by the Democratic Party or the boogie-man George Soros? That's where common sense starts to wain and people like Steve King start getting louder and louder.

I mean, looking at Republican super donors that give to the NRA, would it be correct to suggest that they're supporting mass murders? They support the NRA which opposes gun restrictions, which means that those donors must be for furthering gun violence. It's that kind of logic that's in play by suggesting that the "globalists" are sending these caravans north, and it's bull****.
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(11-02-2018 11:47 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 11:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11

I gave you Pueblo sin Fronteras three days ago. I guess you don't read my links in your zeal to oppose me.

We can call it this or that, but you hit the nail on the head when you ask where their support, financial and other wise comes from. I doubt they exist in a vacuum. Maybe their funding goes back to this

Maybe it goes back to other groups. But who is on the side of more immigrants coming in? Democrats or Republicans? hard to imagine the funding is coming from Republicans. Maybe it is the Russians.

Using thr common sense I know you have, where do you think PSF gets its funding? The RNC? I suspect it is not the Koch brothers. But I cannot give you a link that says it is not the Koch brothers.

In any case, we should welcome every person from the south of us, as long as they say the magic word. After all, it only makes us richer. If 7,000 is a help, then 27,000,000 would be a great boon.

I get very tired of whitebread liberals who have never been closer to an illegal than passing them in the yard on the way into their mansion agitating for their wholesale inclusion. Especially when those whitebread liberals refuse to listen to people with first hand experience. I bet if these 7,000 were to be resettled in the area that some of these whitebread liberals live in (e.g., Austin, Fort Bend, or next to you, Lad), we would hear a loud chorus of NIMBY.

There are reasons there are locks on your doors, and there are reasons for immigration laws.

I think Lad is arguing now to argue.

No, it's not that I don't read your links in my zeal to oppose you, it's that I just can't always remember everything that is posted here. It's not like everyone's posts are short and succinct...

And I bet that people supporting these groups are liberal or members of the DNC - but do you think that, as conspiracy theorists on the right have suggested, that the funding is politically motivated to bring in more migrants to help win elections and organized by the Democratic Party or the boogie-man George Soros? That's where common sense starts to wain and people like Steve King start getting louder and louder.

I mean, looking at Republican super donors that give to the NRA, would it be correct to suggest that they're supporting mass murders? They support the NRA which opposes gun restrictions, which means that those donors must be for furthering gun violence. It's that kind of logic that's in play by suggesting that the "globalists" are sending these caravans north, and it's bull****.

I think the timing is suspect. had the mexicans not slowed them down at their southern border, they would arrive on or before election day.

And I think the Democrats want as many in the country as possible, not for immediate electoral aid, but for the voters they will produce who will come on line in 18-20 years. Maybe the Dems shoud stop touting the Hispanifacation of texas as an indicator of a future flip to blue.

But mainly, I just hate the characterizations of ALL the illegals as wondful people with noble intentions and high morals. Those are not the people I saw wading the river behind my office. I also detest the manipulation of illegals for political purposes. I think the Democrat's exploitation of these poor and desperate people is shameful.

I hate the people urging them to circumvent our laws, especially since most of them are either doing it for political gain or they are blindly supporting it.

But you go your way, I will go mine. In the past I have helped selected immigrants, in various ways. Oh, yeah, anecdotal, not worth a bunch of warm spit when compared to manipulated statistics. Sorry about that.

On November 6, we will finish the election, and this caravan will immediately diminish in size and reporting. Huh, funny that.



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(11-02-2018 11:31 AM)ausowl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:40 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 10:13 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. on behalf of some caravan members currently in Mexico... looks to me like the caravan is getting help from activists.

There's no doubt that there has been support and assistance for these caravans from multiple aid organizations/groups.

The question is whether the conspiracy theories that state they are being organized/funded by those orgs/groups (or the "globalists" as Trump calls them) have any truth to them.

and, ladies and gentlemen, this is what denial looks like.

Odd to see a supporter of the Russia collusion probe dis conspiracy theories.

Ah yes, the denial of asking if the caravans are being organized by some of the support groups...

I did a quick google search because I had not specifically looked into groups organizing these caravans (I've seen many references to groups helping and assisting the people). I found that a group called "Pueblo Sin Fronteras" has been helping to organize such caravans (not clear if all caravans) since 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/imm...989bf88f11

According to Sen. Ted there's some question regarding whether or not Rep. Beto's campaign is funding the caravan(s):

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Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/
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(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/

In for a dime, in for ???

And I would still question the legality of this.
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(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/

In for a dime, in for ???

And I would still question the legality of this.

Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.
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(11-02-2018 01:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/
In for a dime, in for ???
And I would still question the legality of this.
Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.

Yes, and your point is?
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(11-02-2018 02:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/
In for a dime, in for ???
And I would still question the legality of this.
Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.

And your point is?
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RE: Trump Administration
(11-02-2018 02:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/
In for a dime, in for ???
And I would still question the legality of this.
Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.

Yes, and your point is?

Just wanted to put out more info than a link.

Per the campaign they will be declaring the donation as required. Not sure what would be illegal about it, but I'm no elections law expert.
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RE: Trump Administration
(11-02-2018 02:55 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Beto campaign spent less than $300 helping immigrants that were dropped off at a bus station in El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/11/02/...tas-video/
In for a dime, in for ???
And I would still question the legality of this.
Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.
Yes, and your point is?
Just wanted to put out more info than a link.
Per the campaign they will be declaring the donation as required. Not sure what would be illegal about it, but I'm no elections law expert.

Nothing there I didn't know already. Seemed redundant.

I'm no election law expert either, but that just doesn't pass the smell test for me.
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"tppk it upon themselves"

Rogue democrats, acting against the wishes f the candidate. hard for Beto to keep those little scamps in line.

meanwhile, every thing done or said by any
Republican is attributable directly to Trump.

Hooda thunk it?
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RE: Trump Administration
(11-02-2018 03:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:55 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:43 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 02:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(11-02-2018 01:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  In for a dime, in for ???
And I would still question the legality of this.
Quote:The campaign of Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, said Friday that staffers recently "took it upon themselves" to use campaign funds to donate supplies to an El Paso nonprofit and that the contributions — less than $300 total — will be "appropriately reported" to the Federal Election Commission.
Yes, and your point is?
Just wanted to put out more info than a link.
Per the campaign they will be declaring the donation as required. Not sure what would be illegal about it, but I'm no elections law expert.

Nothing there I didn't know already. Seemed redundant.

I'm no election law expert either, but that just doesn't pass the smell test for me.

Really? Smell test is that it's likely some field managers/operatives took it upon themselves to assist some immigrants with campaign funds. Or does $300 buy a lot of influence in El Paso?

What smells smelly about this?
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