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Quote:"You know I said
at least when we play Virginia we won't have to worry about two different style
Qb's because they've moved Hagens(?name?) to wide receiver. Now they have Hagens
and they have the freshman, Anthony Martinez who is big and strong and throws a 94 mph
fastball. Thank God we are not playing them in baseball."

Actually, I personally would feel better about playing UVa in baseball, at least Tanner has given us confidence to fear no-one on the diamond.
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Quote:"You know I said
at least when we play Virginia we won't have to worry about two different style
Qb's because they've moved Hagens(?name?) to wide receiver. Now they have Hagens
and they have the freshman, Anthony Martinez who is big and strong and throws a 94 mph
fastball. Thank God we are not playing them in baseball."

Actually, I personally would feel better about playing UVa in baseball, at least Tanner has given us confidence to fear no-one on the diamond.
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Quote:"You know I said
at least when we play Virginia we won't have to worry about two different style
Qb's because they've moved Hagens(?name?) to wide receiver. Now they have Hagens
and they have the freshman, Anthony Martinez who is big and strong and throws a 94 mph
fastball. Thank God we are not playing them in baseball."

Actually, I personally would feel better about playing UVa in baseball, at least Tanner has given us confidence to fear no-one on the diamond.
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Now, as you know, I don't think of college baseball as a major sport........mainly because it isn't......(regardless of who wants to argue about that until they're blue in the face.......or make up a lot of cute signatures stating the opposite! :rolleyes: )......

BUT.....

Ray Tanner's attitude is perfect. The guy knows how to win, and he could teach our football and basketball programs a lesson in ATTACKING, instead of waiting around for something to happen and making up lame excuses about youth.

I just wish Tanner was also a football or basketball coach. Maybe we should start searching for his doppelganger.....
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Now, as you know, I don't think of college baseball as a major sport........mainly because it isn't......(regardless of who wants to argue about that until they're blue in the face.......or make up a lot of cute signatures stating the opposite! :rolleyes: )......

BUT.....

Ray Tanner's attitude is perfect. The guy knows how to win, and he could teach our football and basketball programs a lesson in ATTACKING, instead of waiting around for something to happen and making up lame excuses about youth.

I just wish Tanner was also a football or basketball coach. Maybe we should start searching for his doppelganger.....
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Galactus Wrote:Now, as you know, I don't think of college baseball as a major sport........mainly because it isn't......(regardless of who wants to argue about that until they're blue in the face.......or make up a lot of cute signatures stating the opposite! :rolleyes: )......

BUT.....

Ray Tanner's attitude is perfect. The guy knows how to win, and he could teach our football and basketball programs a lesson in ATTACKING, instead of waiting around for something to happen and making up lame excuses about youth.

I just wish Tanner was also a football or basketball coach. Maybe we should start searching for his doppelganger.....
One q for you Gal. Why couldn't you make your positive comment about Tanner without including the whole "baseball's not a major sport" thing? This is just another example of you thumbing your nose up at Carolina baseball, & that's what ticks people off.

The few times I've seen you make positive comments about coach Frye & the track & field program I don't think you've ever started out with any kind of T & F is not a major sport, but coach Frye's an outstanding coach type comment.

Just curious because it seems like you can't bring yourself to say anything nice about Tanner or the Yardcocks without dissing them as unimportant as well.

And before you come at me w/ all your "but it's true Drakeman, baseball isn't.....", I'm not arguing that point with you here.

Again, why couldn't you just have complimented Tanner without insulting the Yardcocks, & those who enjoy following them?
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Galactus Wrote:Now, as you know, I don't think of college baseball as a major sport........mainly because it isn't......(regardless of who wants to argue about that until they're blue in the face.......or make up a lot of cute signatures stating the opposite! :rolleyes: )......

BUT.....

Ray Tanner's attitude is perfect. The guy knows how to win, and he could teach our football and basketball programs a lesson in ATTACKING, instead of waiting around for something to happen and making up lame excuses about youth.

I just wish Tanner was also a football or basketball coach. Maybe we should start searching for his doppelganger.....
One q for you Gal. Why couldn't you make your positive comment about Tanner without including the whole "baseball's not a major sport" thing? This is just another example of you thumbing your nose up at Carolina baseball, & that's what ticks people off.

The few times I've seen you make positive comments about coach Frye & the track & field program I don't think you've ever started out with any kind of T & F is not a major sport, but coach Frye's an outstanding coach type comment.

Just curious because it seems like you can't bring yourself to say anything nice about Tanner or the Yardcocks without dissing them as unimportant as well.

And before you come at me w/ all your "but it's true Drakeman, baseball isn't.....", I'm not arguing that point with you here.

Again, why couldn't you just have complimented Tanner without insulting the Yardcocks, & those who enjoy following them?
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Drake.....that was not meant as an "insult" to anyone. It was an attempt to point out that, DESPITE my lack of enthusiasm for college baseball, I RESPECT the job Tanner has done and admire it. Obviously, that attempt failed with you and I apologize for that.....but those comments you interpreted that way weren't directed at you.

They were directed at those who attempt to perpetuate this silly argument on other internet locations with smart-****** signatures.......That's fine, though. There's no argument here as far as I'm concerned.

I have some relatives who attend USC baseball games quite often and enjoy themselves. And I'm happy for them. I have no problem with it. I was pulling for our boys versus Texas a couple years ago as hard as anyone.

So....what is it I DO have a problem with? Not that this has anything to do with my original point on this thread (really.....it doesn't)......but, I get tired of hearing some.......note the word "some".......USC fans who resort to the ol' "Well, we're good in baseball" rationale every time the football and basketball teams have sucky years (which, as you know, has been often). It looks desperate......it looks foolish......it's embarassing.......it brings chuckles from fans of other schools in our geographical region......But I know it's coming after about five games into Odom's season this year (because we're going to be baaaadddd...).:frown:

You'll note that I stay out of most college baseball discussions on internet boards.......this is one reason why......and my lack of interest is another.

Again.....my argument was NEVER with you on this. You know who it was with......and you missed much of that discussion, I think........but it went beyond absurd, and I should've bailed out of the discussion much, much earlier than I did because talking to a brick wall does no good, and I should know that by now.
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Galactus Wrote:Drake.....that was not meant as an "insult" to anyone. It was an attempt to point out that, DESPITE my lack of enthusiasm for college baseball, I RESPECT the job Tanner has done and admire it. .......

So....what is it I DO have a problem with? .............. I get tired of hearing some..........USC fans who resort to the ol' "Well, we're good in baseball" rationale every time the football and basketball teams have sucky years. It looks desperate......it looks foolish......it's embarassing.......it brings chuckles from fans of other schools in our geographical region......
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
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I'm not sure I'm following you......but the bottom line is I don't "hate" baseball as I've been accused of. That's nonsense. I happen to be a fan of the Giants and Orioles and enjoy Major League Baseball.

Why did you edit out my emphasis on the word "SOME"??? That was my whole point in that statement........I've never said EVERY SINGLE CAROLINA FAN is guilty of using baseball as a crutch. But there are some who do......and yes, as childish as it may be of me, I find that annoying. What do you want me to say?
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I know you don't hate baseball, & I know you don't hate USC baseball. I'm not trying to imply that, & I'm not attacking you either.

As for the editing of your post, I did that for bandwidth purposes, & to cut to the chase while using an example from your post. The "some fans" (I did leave in the non caps "some" 03-wink ) part was irrelevant to what I'm getting at. Once again you paid a compliment to Tanner early on, but then you just had to go & put in the part about foolish, embarrassing, ect. I guess I just don't get that, & I'm trying to figure out where your coming from. Why the need to run some fans who enjoy & celebrate in the successes of USC baseball in the ground?

Anyway, not trying to start a major deal with you so don't sweat it.
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Quote:I happen to be a fan of the Giants and Orioles and enjoy Major League Baseball

Well, nobody's perfect 03-wink
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Drakeman Wrote:I know you don't hate baseball, & I know you don't hate USC baseball. I'm not trying to imply that, & I'm not attacking you either.

Anyway, not trying to start a major deal with you so don't sweat it.
I know, Drake.....I'm just trying to make myself clear without clouding the issue more (or doing that "contradiction" thingy you love so much! 03-wink ) . Some things are hard to do over the internet.....kinda hard to explain what I'm getting at.

Raptor,

Well, I used to not even like the majors. I'd say in the last 5 to 7 years I've come to appreciate the game of baseball a little more. I think my generation was one of the first to not grow up idolizing baseball players. The NFL really came of age during my childhood....and most kids I knew idolized football players.

Basketball was a close second, but I was always one of the few guys who actually followed NBA basketball. This is back in the pre-David Stern years.....

College baseball is a totally different game from major league baseball......and I just have hard time getting excited about a sport that gets so little coverage nationally.
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Drakeman Wrote:I know you don't hate baseball, & I know you don't hate USC baseball. I'm not trying to imply that, & I'm not attacking you either.

Anyway, not trying to start a major deal with you so don't sweat it.
I know, Drake.....I'm just trying to make myself clear without clouding the issue more (or doing that "contradiction" thingy you love so much! 03-wink ) . Some things are hard to do over the internet.....kinda hard to explain what I'm getting at.

Raptor,

Well, I used to not even like the majors. I'd say in the last 5 to 7 years I've come to appreciate the game of baseball a little more. I think my generation was one of the first to not grow up idolizing baseball players. The NFL really came of age during my childhood....and most kids I knew idolized football players.

Basketball was a close second, but I was always one of the few guys who actually followed NBA basketball. This is back in the pre-David Stern years.....

College baseball is a totally different game from major league baseball......and I just have hard time getting excited about a sport that gets so little coverage nationally.
I played baseball in the recreation league as a kid and that (and Toronto struggles in the 90s) was the only reason baseball stayed in my life. I actually had a class with a USC baseball player while at USC, was nice fella that would have ran through a brick wall for June Raines. I wish now I had played more basketball and less baseball in hindsight :(
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Galactus Wrote:College baseball is a totally different game from major league baseball......
You're doggone right it's different, college baseball is not full of overpaid, bat corking, steriod using, greedy screw the fan individuals. Given the chance to see the Braves -Yankees in the WS or see USC-XXX in the CWS, give me the college game.

That's to bad because baseball is my #1 sport. I played it for years and to this day I continue to coach. I love teaching the game to youngsters. I take great pride in seeing one of my players learn what I teach them and use it with success on the field.

You see, the college game (aside from those stinkin' aluminum bats) is baseball in it's purest form. It's real baseball. I know, I know, baseball is baseball, right? Wrong, baseball is not the DH, nor is it wildcard teams, nor is it interleague games.

You are entitled to your argument Gal, as I am mine but the college game is real baseball therefore it's a major sport, much more so than the"Major Leagues."

Swimming is not a major sport, baseball is.

With that said, I'm taking my ball and bat and going home 03-razz
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1st and Goal,

I totally agree with you on the "Purity" aspects. I'm not here to argue which game is necessarily BETTER........I'm just saying that Major League Baseball is infinitely more popular in this country than college baseball. Say "baseball" and most people think of the majors.....the Yankees, Giants, etc.

College football DOES compete with the NFL......college basketball DOES compete with the NBA......but that does not hold true in baseball.

Now as to which game is actually a better game.....that's a whole 'nother discussion. The college game is nice......but I don't care for the aluminum bats. That's the big drawback for me......other than that, I don't have a problem with it......but the majors interest me much more, probably because they get better coverage and I can follow it down here. It's much harder to follow college baseball because the major networks don't keep up with it and the local papers down here rarely, if ever, cover it....

The fact remains, however, regardless of how "pure" the game is.....that college baseball is not a major revenue sport and it probably never will be under the current system. Ask any sports information department from any major university, and they'll tell you that college baseball (if they even have a college baseball team) is a minor revenue sport.

There are only two major revenue sports: football and men's basketball. If nothing else, all you have to do is look at the media coverage those two sports get, and compare it to college baseball. That alone has a lot to do with that "minor" revenue.

Again, I'm not commenting on the value of the game itself......I'm just telling you how it's perceived on a national scale.
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