(10-30-2016 11:22 AM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I'll update as more are posted by their respective sites...

CBS:
Camellia Bowl (Akron vs South Alabama)
New Orleans Bowl (Southern Miss vs Lafayette)
Cure Bowl (UCF Vs Troy)
Dollar General Bowl (Western Michigan vs App State)
Arizona Bowl: (Utah State vs Georgia Southern)
**AT LARGE**
St Petersburg Bowl (South Florida vs Arkansas State)

SB Nation:
New Orleans (Lafayette vs Louisiana Tech)
Cure (Georgia Southern vs UCF)
Camellia ( App State vs Central Michigan)
Dollar General (South Alabama vs Toledo)
Arizona (Troy vs Air Force)
**AT LARGE**
Hawaii (Idaho vs Hawaii)

Campus Insiders:
Cure (Arkansas State vs UCF)
Camellia (App State vs Akron)
New Orleans (Georgia Southern vs Louisiana Tech)
Dollar General (Troy vs Ohio)
Arizona (Lafayette vs Colorado State)
**AT LARGE**
St Petersburg (South Alabama vs Temple

When did the SunBelt agree to allow the Lafayette Leopards to taked our bowl spots?

I think when they were having a more exciting year than Louisiana.

(10-30-2016 11:33 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:22 AM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I'll update as more are posted by their respective sites...

CBS:
Camellia Bowl (Akron vs South Alabama)
New Orleans Bowl (Southern Miss vs Lafayette)
Cure Bowl (UCF Vs Troy)
Dollar General Bowl (Western Michigan vs App State)

Give me this.

You don't want that.

Having watched both App State and WMU, I think App would win that one by 2 TDs.

What's the rank with bowls as far was who gets 1st choice, 2nd, and on down? That should give you the prediction based on ...
1) App/Troy winner
2)stAte
3)App/Troy loser
4)Southern
5)Idaho

(10-30-2016 08:32 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Having watched both App State and WMU, I think App would win that one by 2 TDs.

You need to change that sig fella. WMU is 1-1 against GoSo. And if they win out they'll be in the cotton bowl 99%. So if you think they get tripped up, a game against App State would be awesome and favorable. Seeing their game vs. Northwestern (probably 8-4 BIG team) and the App State game vs. Miami... I'd take WMU to row the boat by a TD. Of course Fleck would most likely leave before any bowl game BUT the Access.

(10-31-2016 01:12 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 08:32 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Having watched both App State and WMU, I think App would win that one by 2 TDs.

You need to change that sig fella. WMU is 1-1 against GoSo. And if they win out they'll be in the cotton bowl 99%. So if you think they get tripped up, a game against App State would be awesome and favorable. Seeing their game vs. Northwestern (probably 8-4 BIG team) and the App State game vs. Miami... I'd take WMU to row the boat by a TD. Of course Fleck would most likely leave before any bowl game BUT the Access.

WMU wins out the only thing that can stop WMU from going to the Cotton would be Boise winning out with Wyoming dropping two games so Boise can win the MWC.

(10-30-2016 11:12 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  What's the rank with bowls as far was who gets 1st choice, 2nd, and on down? That should give you the prediction based on ...
1) App/Troy winner
2)stAte
3)App/Troy loser
4)Southern
5)Idaho

There is no actual rank. Bowls may pick whoever they want as long as the champs are accomodated.

For example, if Troy won the league, but every bowl decided they hate all things Troy and refused to take them, they could do so, and it would fall to Arizona to take them.

Bowl Order: New Orleans, Dollar General, Camelia, Cure, Arizona

If UL goes 6-6, it won't matter what Troy finishes, New Orleans will use its first pick to take the Cajuns and their 40K fans. Otherwise, New Orleans likely takes the Champ. Dollar General picks 2nd and has said multiple times that if the champ is available, they will take them. Otherwise it falls to attendance and other numbers. You know they'd love to have Troy if New Orleans passes on the Trojans. Otherwise AState and App would be at the top of their list. Unlike New Orleans, Dollar General has made it very clear they don't want to take the local flavor in USA, and would prefer taking a team that has to travel because it sells hotels.

Camelia gets 3rd pick and considering Georgia Southern's issues this years, they'll probably take the Troy/App/stAte team that does not get taken by New Orleans and Dollar General. The other option would be South Alabama. Dollar General won't touch the jags, but Montgomery would gladly take them. Problem is, it's more likely that Troy/App/stAte will travel similar to USA, so again hotels probably win out here.

Cure picks 4th. They'd give their left arm to have Georgia Southern if the Eagles are eligible, but if they fail to get to 6 wins, then this bowl can go anywhere, and is probably open for South Alabama.

Arizona picks 5th. If Idaho is open, they'll grab the Vandals because Idahoans vacation in Arizona in the Winter. Something about being cold in Idaho.

If we get a 6th eligible, than we have one for the bowl pool, and that could really screw things up, because if the SBC has 6 eligible, than they could actually choose to horse trade a Troy lets say out to a non conference tied bowl instead of force feeding a 6 win Sun Belt team to somebody. That likely sends that 6 win team to Cure instead.

(10-31-2016 01:12 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 08:32 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Having watched both App State and WMU, I think App would win that one by 2 TDs.

You need to change that sig fella. WMU is 1-1 against GoSo. And if they win out they'll be in the cotton bowl 99%. So if you think they get tripped up, a game against App State would be awesome and favorable. Seeing their game vs. Northwestern (probably 8-4 BIG team) and the App State game vs. Miami... I'd take WMU to row the boat by a TD. Of course Fleck would most likely leave before any bowl game BUT the Access.

Just calling it like I see it. WMU is the most we've scored on an FBS team this year and we have dismal offensive coaching this year. App State didn't need a pick-6 and a special teams touchdown and a gifted turnover in the red zone to win by 24 points in Statesboro.

BTW, Northwestern lost to an FCS team that's now 4-4. Either they are better now than they were or the B1G is just bad.

IMO, it's not a given WMU gets the Cotton Bowl if undefeated. There is still a sizeable gulf between the AAC and Sun Belt in conference ratings and their champion is going to get strong consideration. We don't have much of any precedent to see what the committee will do.

Jawja Sutheren ain't making no bowl folks. We may win 1 more game, not 2.

(10-31-2016 02:45 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:12 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  What's the rank with bowls as far was who gets 1st choice, 2nd, and on down? That should give you the prediction based on ...
1) App/Troy winner
2)stAte
3)App/Troy loser
4)Southern
5)Idaho

There is no actual rank. Bowls may pick whoever they want as long as the champs are accomodated.

For example, if Troy won the league, but every bowl decided they hate all things Troy and refused to take them, they could do so, and it would fall to Arizona to take them.

Bowl Order: New Orleans, Dollar General, Camelia, Cure, Arizona

If UL goes 6-6, it won't matter what Troy finishes, New Orleans will use its first pick to take the Cajuns and their 40K fans. Otherwise, New Orleans likely takes the Champ. Dollar General picks 2nd and has said multiple times that if the champ is available, they will take them. Otherwise it falls to attendance and other numbers. You know they'd love to have Troy if New Orleans passes on the Trojans. Otherwise AState and App would be at the top of their list. Unlike New Orleans, Dollar General has made it very clear they don't want to take the local flavor in USA, and would prefer taking a team that has to travel because it sells hotels.

Camelia gets 3rd pick and considering Georgia Southern's issues this years, they'll probably take the Troy/App/stAte team that does not get taken by New Orleans and Dollar General. The other option would be South Alabama. Dollar General won't touch the jags, but Montgomery would gladly take them. Problem is, it's more likely that Troy/App/stAte will travel similar to USA, so again hotels probably win out here.

Cure picks 4th. They'd give their left arm to have Georgia Southern if the Eagles are eligible, but if they fail to get to 6 wins, then this bowl can go anywhere, and is probably open for South Alabama.

Arizona picks 5th. If Idaho is open, they'll grab the Vandals because Idahoans vacation in Arizona in the Winter. Something about being cold in Idaho.

If we get a 6th eligible, than we have one for the bowl pool, and that could really screw things up, because if the SBC has 6 eligible, than they could actually choose to horse trade a Troy lets say out to a non conference tied bowl instead of force feeding a 6 win Sun Belt team to somebody. That likely sends that 6 win team to Cure instead.

Is this true? I need to read the Sun Belt bowl stuff again, but I was under the impression that the Sun Belt Champion was required to go to one of 5 bowls tied with the Belt. Doesn't matter which one, they just had to be picked. I wouldn't imagine trading the champs out to another bowl would be admissible nor desired.

(10-31-2016 08:38 AM)Venaros Wrote:  

(10-31-2016 02:45 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:12 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  What's the rank with bowls as far was who gets 1st choice, 2nd, and on down? That should give you the prediction based on ...
1) App/Troy winner
2)stAte
3)App/Troy loser
4)Southern
5)Idaho

There is no actual rank. Bowls may pick whoever they want as long as the champs are accomodated.

For example, if Troy won the league, but every bowl decided they hate all things Troy and refused to take them, they could do so, and it would fall to Arizona to take them.

Bowl Order: New Orleans, Dollar General, Camelia, Cure, Arizona

If UL goes 6-6, it won't matter what Troy finishes, New Orleans will use its first pick to take the Cajuns and their 40K fans. Otherwise, New Orleans likely takes the Champ. Dollar General picks 2nd and has said multiple times that if the champ is available, they will take them. Otherwise it falls to attendance and other numbers. You know they'd love to have Troy if New Orleans passes on the Trojans. Otherwise AState and App would be at the top of their list. Unlike New Orleans, Dollar General has made it very clear they don't want to take the local flavor in USA, and would prefer taking a team that has to travel because it sells hotels.

Camelia gets 3rd pick and considering Georgia Southern's issues this years, they'll probably take the Troy/App/stAte team that does not get taken by New Orleans and Dollar General. The other option would be South Alabama. Dollar General won't touch the jags, but Montgomery would gladly take them. Problem is, it's more likely that Troy/App/stAte will travel similar to USA, so again hotels probably win out here.

Cure picks 4th. They'd give their left arm to have Georgia Southern if the Eagles are eligible, but if they fail to get to 6 wins, then this bowl can go anywhere, and is probably open for South Alabama.

Arizona picks 5th. If Idaho is open, they'll grab the Vandals because Idahoans vacation in Arizona in the Winter. Something about being cold in Idaho.

If we get a 6th eligible, than we have one for the bowl pool, and that could really screw things up, because if the SBC has 6 eligible, than they could actually choose to horse trade a Troy lets say out to a non conference tied bowl instead of force feeding a 6 win Sun Belt team to somebody. That likely sends that 6 win team to Cure instead.

Is this true? I need to read the Sun Belt bowl stuff again, but I was under the impression that the Sun Belt Champion was required to go to one of 5 bowls tied with the Belt. Doesn't matter which one, they just had to be picked. I wouldn't imagine trading the champs out to another bowl would be admissible nor desired.

They are required to go to a BOWL. Not a conference tied bowl. It came close to happening in 2012 when AState got permission from the conference to negotiate with an open Liberty Bowl to possibily fill the game against what at the time was the CUSA champ. It didn't happen because Iowa State got eligible in a huge surprise last week of the season to fill the slot, but it's within conference rules.

Thing about the rule is other conference bowls are waiting on the champ because the champ has to be accomodated. In that 2012 scenario, the leagues last pick, Go Daddy had to wait until bowl selection day to make a selection because if AState didn't go to the Liberty Bowl, they had to fill a Sun Belt Bowl game by conference bylaw.

In this case, if say Birmingham comes open and really wants a champ in Troy, the Trojans can get permission to negotiate, but they have to do this without alienating the SBC bowls, because they obviously wouldn't want Arizona (Who would be required to wait) and all the other bowls in theory could invite without waiting on Troy.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

(10-31-2016 08:33 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Jawja Sutheren ain't making no bowl folks. We may win 1 more game, not 2.

We GS fans can be over the top both ways but this is true. We dont beat Ole Miss or Troy unless their starters contract ebola. We dont beat Ul or GSU without help from them in turnovers on their side of the field within field goal range most likely but I dont see us winning both either way. GSU players know GS is ripe for the picking our season will be lost in the minds of our players. Just pure speculation but beating GS for GSU players is still huge from their perspective even if we suck and it does not mean much overall. I know from a GS perspective beating them is not going to lift the season up any higher at this point especially if we have already lost to UL. This is a "rival" game just because of location of the two teams but this is not an App level rivalry yet.

(10-30-2016 08:30 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:33 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-30-2016 11:22 AM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I'll update as more are posted by their respective sites...

CBS:
Camellia Bowl (Akron vs South Alabama)
New Orleans Bowl (Southern Miss vs Lafayette)
Cure Bowl (UCF Vs Troy)
Dollar General Bowl (Western Michigan vs App State)

Give me this.

You don't want that.

They're a good team, but I don't think they are some super power. Y'all beat them last year, and I'm not really that impressed with any MAC teams. I think our speed gives us an advantage over their teams. Besides Fleck will likely be out the door at that point of the year similar to Bowling Green last year.

College sports madness

Camellia: Toledo vs Arkansas state

New Orleans: app state vs Louisiana tech

Cure: Georgia southern vs Tulsa

Dollar general: Troy vs Ohio

Arizona: Idaho vs army (no MWC projected)

Toledo again

God please, enough.


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(11-01-2016 12:29 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  College sports madness

Camellia: Toledo vs Arkansas state

New Orleans: app state vs Louisiana tech

Cure: Georgia southern vs Tulsa

Dollar general: Troy vs Ohio

Arizona: Idaho vs army (no MWC projected)

That projection assumes that USA will either lose all three of NMSU, @ULM, and @Idaho (or lose to Presbyterian plus lose 2 of those games), or that there will be 78 or more conventionally qualifying bowl teams.

Possible, but Im thinking USA gets there.

(11-01-2016 02:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 12:29 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  College sports madness

Camellia: Toledo vs Arkansas state

New Orleans: app state vs Louisiana tech

Cure: Georgia southern vs Tulsa

Dollar general: Troy vs Ohio

Arizona: Idaho vs army (no MWC projected)

That projection assumes that USA will either lose all three of NMSU, @ULM, and @Idaho (or lose to Presbyterian plus lose 2 of those games), or that there will be 78 or more conventionally qualifying bowl teams.

Possible, but Im thinking USA gets there.

You should be able to beat NMSU and ULM and get to six. Idaho could get you to seven, but it's not a gimmie.

(11-01-2016 12:31 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  Toledo again

God please, enough.


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