...in exchange for releasing schools from the current GOR?

That last part is the key part of the question, but a little too long for a subject line.

What does the Big 12 need if schools like OU and UT are leaving? Well, they need stability into the future, but having access to an expanded playoff would be an interesting bargaining chip and one that might make everything finally fit into place.

The current CFP agreement could be easily re-negotiated and an additional 4 games would be like printing money for everyone involved. I know a lot of people wouldn't want that as they don't even want the current structure, but I'm just fishing for thoughts here on whether something like that might be possible.

Let's say UT, OU, KU, and maybe one more leave the Big 12. The league backfills with the likes of BYU, Houston, and other such schools to get to 12. The Big 12 survives with decent money and the entire structure is bolstered by an additional round to the playoffs. The conference championship race for each league would be of immense importance and should in and of itself drive ratings even for a less popular league like the Big 12. A long term investment in the Big 12 is then more likely to pay off and the networks get more playoff games in exchange.

Sounds like everybody wins to me. How about you?

If the big 12 is going to fall apart let it. No need to expand the play offs especially if the rating s are currently not up to par. Plus I would still like to see great matchups in the traditional bowl games as well

(10-27-2016 05:21 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  If the big 12 is going to fall apart let it. No need to expand the play offs especially if the rating s are currently not up to par. Plus I would still like to see great matchups in the traditional bowl games as well

Well, it's not so much that everyone would be worried about saving the Big 12. It's more of a quid pro quo.

The Big 12 schools, outside of a few, don't have any security and would be more expensive if they were to be parsed out to other leagues. If the networks allow the Big 12 to survive at a decreased rate, however, then that alone could be worth it to create the moves everyone else wants...namely UT, OU, and KU moving on.

If I'm the Big 12 though, I try to milk it for everything it's worth. If the others are willing to expand the playoff and I think it will happen eventually anyway then why not go ahead and do it to bring back some stability to this whole setup.

1. Each member of the Power 5 gets a guaranteed slot every year...no one gets left out.

2. More money from an additional round of games. Everyone makes an extra buck.

3. The conference race for each league is more interesting because the winner is a guaranteed playoff participant. Bigger ratings for regular season games equals more money and more stability for all the leagues.

It's true the ratings for last year's games lagged a little bit, but that's because the morons scheduling the event did it on New Year's Eve. Even the Super Bowl would underperform if they scheduled it for that day. The ratings are still huge compared to other games so I don't see a problem from the network's perspective.

The only expansion that will ever occur for the college football playoffs will happen when we move to a P4. Eventually there will be conference semi finals. That will be your 16 school expanded playoff. Each P4 will put 4 schools into semifinals, 2 into finals, and their champion will move to the semi finals of the CFP.

(10-28-2016 07:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  The only expansion that will ever occur for the college football playoffs will happen when we move to a P4. Eventually there will be conference semi finals. That will be your 16 school expanded playoff. Each P4 will put 4 schools into semifinals, 2 into finals, and their champion will move to the semi finals of the CFP.

That will keep the regular season meaningful and encourage teams to schedule tough ooc opponents. Heck, G5 programs could do the same or even have their champs play one another for a better shot at getting in. Say If Boise State goes undefeated in the regular season and wins the MWC CCG game. During the following weekend while the P5 schools are playing in their CCG, Boise could play the winner of theAAC to try and earn a playoff spot.

(10-28-2016 12:32 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 07:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  The only expansion that will ever occur for the college football playoffs will happen when we move to a P4. Eventually there will be conference semi finals. That will be your 16 school expanded playoff. Each P4 will put 4 schools into semifinals, 2 into finals, and their champion will move to the semi finals of the CFP.

That will keep the regular season meaningful and encourage teams to schedule tough ooc opponents. Heck, G5 programs could do the same or even have their champs play one another for a better shot at getting in. Say If Boise State goes undefeated in the regular season and wins the MWC CCG game. During the following weekend while the P5 schools are playing in their CCG, Boise could play the winner of theAAC to try and earn a playoff spot.

I wish we had this setup this year.

You wouldn't have to confine it to P4 champs only. If a P4 conference champ has 3+ loses but got lucky during their conference playoff then you could have a G5 champ take the spot IF they are ranked top 10 or significantly higher.

The leagues will have to go bigger than 16, however, before instituting conference semi-finals. Too easy to maintain the status quo if we're talking about 16 team leagues.

(10-29-2016 11:05 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  The leagues will have to go bigger than 16, however, before instituting conference semi-finals. Too easy to maintain the status quo if we're talking about 16 team leagues.

18 minimum?