I can see A10 in the future. But I would like to insure we now have a stable program. We've made an impressive jump in that direction. We need to know that we are going to keep going in that direction. And my biggest question is will we stay there when Keatts is gone. I don't want to be another ECU basketball program that moves up and lives the life of a cellar dweller. Saying hey, look what conference we're in. I want to be a factor in that conference. Not only in basketball, but baseball and softball and tennis, etc. I actually think baseball and tennis are the only two programs that are proven commodities right now. Basketball may be, but again, what will happen when Keatts leaves? And we all know that's going to happen. We are back to having a lot of excitement around our basketball program. But we all know what happens here when we aren't winning.

I agree the travel is bad now, the travel 15 years ago? Was prob some of the best in the country in terms of farthest schools

The fact is we were more than equal to the task in conferences with Richmond, VCU, GMU, ODU who have all moved on. And, although Keatts has turned us around, our attendance and support even in down years has been at the top of the CAA with a minimal budget. Furthermore, we didn't just hire a good coach, we hired a coach who brought in a new system. A system that has a good group of coaches waiting in the wings. HOPEFULLY, if Keatts moves on, this system will attract a good coach along with good players who want to play in this type of system. As long as we don't go off in a completely direction, this system has proven it can sustain winning programs.
Hofstra, NU, Drexel have all had their share of basketball success in the CAA, but have still played to high school crowds.
The only real peer we have in the CAA right now is CoC. Which is why i'd love to see us move as a package to the A10...if we move.

Would love to jump to the A10 but I also realize it took Dav years of being the big fish in small pond before they got that invite

UNCW and CoC should be in the same conference for the rest of time. Two like minded schools who emphasize the same sports. Its good to have them with us finally

CAA is stronger in basketball than last year I believe. If CAA teams win a good percentage of their games against power 5 schools this year I can see them being 2 bid conference this season. There was no true mid major conferences rated higher than the CAA last year but our top teams did not do well against the big boys.

(10-31-2016 02:28 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  CAA is stronger in basketball than last year I believe. If CAA teams win a good percentage of their games against power 5 schools this year I can see them being 2 bid conference this season. There was no true mid major conferences rated higher than the CAA last year but our top teams did not do well against the big boys.

I agree the CAA will be a little better this year but its going to stay a one bid. The P5 schools have more clout than ever before and it will continue to grow that direction as long as the football money is there. They have all the cards and will not be giving away anything to the little guys. If you wanna play in the NCAA tourney you better get in the right conference quick. I would not be surprised to see the P5 turn into the P4 very soon. When this happens and it will happen,the big boys will have control of the deal when it comes time to talk TV money and the tournament. They can basically decide the fate of the tournament. I see it getting more and more exclusive in their favor. Don't get caught with your head in the sand.

I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

Are you trying to tell us that a season-opening win over Claflin would not count as much to the A-10 as, say, multiple recent NCAA appearances with actual tournament victories????

How dare you inject a note of realism into this thread?

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

(11-01-2016 05:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

I don't doubt that UNCW would love to be in the A-10 in the future.

I think NU could be too based on what UMass does and if we go on a winning roll the next few years.

I just never saw any talk about this on these boards prior to this season. I could be wrong on that.

And you still face a possible football problem in the A-10 as half of the league has football, although it doesn't obviously place an emphasis on it.

(11-01-2016 07:06 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

I don't doubt that UNCW would love to be in the A-10 in the future.

I think NU could be too based on what UMass does and if we go on a winning roll the next few years.

I just never saw any talk about this on these boards prior to this season. I could be wrong on that.

And you still face a possible football problem in the A-10 as half of the league has football, although it doesn't obviously place an emphasis on it.

I have to admit that I spend some time in Boston and Cape Cod for work and to bring the Boston market into the discussion for NU basketball is a joke. Boston is a pro town all the way,they don't give a damn about Boston College basketball and they are ACC. Harvard has been pretty good for a while now-they don't care at all and NU is so far down the list it really is not even on a list. They are pretty good but the market there is about zero for them. I have been to a game there at the igloo,counting players,refs,ushers,security,concessions workers,fans there were about 500 people in the place -freezing . I would have to hope UNCW is a far better choice when it comes time for the A10 to look for schools. Its a plan for the future and I think it happens in the next few years. The Big 12 is basically on life support right now,when Texas leaves the party is over for the Big 12. They have a 10 team conference called the Big 12-that says it all to to me.

(11-01-2016 07:06 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

I don't doubt that UNCW would love to be in the A-10 in the future.

I think NU could be too based on what UMass does and if we go on a winning roll the next few years.

I just never saw any talk about this on these boards prior to this season. I could be wrong on that.

And you still face a possible football problem in the A-10 as half of the league has football, although it doesn't obviously place an emphasis on it.

Nothing wrong with a school striving for what is best for them. An A10 south with uncw and CoC would be very very attractive for us. Travel no further north than DC with everyone in the division being basketball first.

A10 has always been a basketball first conference. All previous CAA expansions since VCU outside of CoC have been for football. Hofstra and NE were added because they had football and both schools then dropped football once they were safely in the conference. Hofstra prevented divisions by vetoing stony brook and now we are a 10 team round robin conference from Boston to Charleston. That is just not sustainable long term

Benny Moss did not kill our program. It was dead when he got here. He was not equipped to turn it around. What little breath we had was smothered out when he was fired in the middle of the season and the players gave up. No coach killed it. That all can be attributed to Administration and a few big donors. Those donors are still here, but money is always forgiven.

I can tell you when Keatts was hired, he was hired based on the style of play he would bring to UNCW. A style of play that has proven successful at the mid major level. UNCW didn't simply look for a "good coach", we looked for a good coach who would bring a certain style of play.

You may not grasp or have belief that this style of play could become a long term "system" for UNCW, but we believe that. Look no further than VCU. They put themselves in a position to lose a highly successful coach, and then hire another coach in the same mold and continue that success. They have a "system" if ever there has been one. That system needs certain types of players, has very specific priorities for success, and has a coaching tree that provides a pool of coaches who understand and can continue the same style of pay should a coach move on.

And that system puts UNCW in a position to bring in a coach who will have a roster of players ready to go from day one. That system also gives players a reason to stay if a coach leaves, knowing they wont become a fish out of water if a new coach arrives.

That is our definition of a system. One that can remain consistent over a long period of time. We could be wrong, but there was a definite thought process in place in hiring Keatts.

(11-01-2016 10:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I can tell you when Keatts was hired, he was hired based on the style of play he would bring to UNCW. A style of play that has proven successful at the mid major level. UNCW didn't simply look for a "good coach", we looked for a good coach who would bring a certain style of play.

You may not grasp or have belief that this style of play could become a long term "system" for UNCW, but we believe that. Look no further than VCU. They put themselves in a position to lose a highly successful coach, and then hire another coach in the same mold and continue that success. They have a "system" if ever there has been one. That system needs certain types of players, has very specific priorities for success, and has a coaching tree that provides a pool of coaches who understand and can continue the same style of pay should a coach move on.

And that system puts UNCW in a position to bring in a coach who will have a roster of players ready to go from day one. That system also gives players a reason to stay if a coach leaves, knowing they wont become a fish out of water if a new coach arrives.

That is our definition of a system. One that can remain consistent over a long period of time. We could be wrong, but there was a definite thought process in place in hiring Keatts.

We had that with Jerry and then Brownell too.

(11-01-2016 10:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I can tell you when Keatts was hired, he was hired based on the style of play he would bring to UNCW. A style of play that has proven successful at the mid major level. UNCW didn't simply look for a "good coach", we looked for a good coach who would bring a certain style of play.

You may not grasp or have belief that this style of play could become a long term "system" for UNCW, but we believe that. Look no further than VCU. They put themselves in a position to lose a highly successful coach, and then hire another coach in the same mold and continue that success. They have a "system" if ever there has been one. That system needs certain types of players, has very specific priorities for success, and has a coaching tree that provides a pool of coaches who understand and can continue the same style of pay should a coach move on.

And that system puts UNCW in a position to bring in a coach who will have a roster of players ready to go from day one. That system also gives players a reason to stay if a coach leaves, knowing they wont become a fish out of water if a new coach arrives.

That is our definition of a system. One that can remain consistent over a long period of time. We could be wrong, but there was a definite thought process in place in hiring Keatts.

I agree with this now but at the time I was very doubtful that it could be pulled off in Wilmington but the basketball landscape has changed so dramatically in the last ten years that now I think this is the way to go.
I loved what Brownell did and I thought that was the way to go but with an abundance of athletic type players around today it is a much smarter way to approach it. I think the old mid western style of play is pretty much history and is lost on today's player. Play 94 feet,shoot the 3 ball and defend the entire court is the way to get it done. It does take a certain amount of selfless players and I really think the 2 and 3 star kids are more likely to buy into this than the higher ranked kids-who want a certain amount of touches and shots . I think Keatts will leave but this thing can survive that. It will work at the A10 level with the right group of players and coaches.

It's remarkable to watch though. CofC gets a Brownell protege' and UNCW gets a Pitino protege'. Right now, both seem to be effective in the CAA. So, we have the old UNCW/VCU type matchups again.

(10-31-2016 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  UNCW and CoC should be in the same conference for the rest of time. Two like minded schools who emphasize the same sports. Its good to have them with us finally

(11-01-2016 07:55 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 07:06 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

I don't doubt that UNCW would love to be in the A-10 in the future.

I think NU could be too based on what UMass does and if we go on a winning roll the next few years.

I just never saw any talk about this on these boards prior to this season. I could be wrong on that.

And you still face a possible football problem in the A-10 as half of the league has football, although it doesn't obviously place an emphasis on it.

Nothing wrong with a school striving for what is best for them. An A10 south with uncw and CoC would be very very attractive for us. Travel no further north than DC with everyone in the division being basketball first.

A10 has always been a basketball first conference. All previous CAA expansions since VCU outside of CoC have been for football. Hofstra and NE were added because they had football and both schools then dropped football once they were safely in the conference. Hofstra prevented divisions by vetoing stony brook and now we are a 10 team round robin conference from Boston to Charleston. That is just not sustainable long term

CofC was picked because of men's basketball and baseball. Since the CAA move, we've made the NCAAs twice, made a super regional, and the other year (our worst in probably 20 years) we beat CCU twice, South Carolina, Clemson, and played UCSB to a win and a tie in a 3 game series.

I think we are in the right spot for baseball and basketball. I'd love to be in a A-10 type league with you guys, Richmond, GMU, VCU and GW, but in Olympic sports the travel would be tough, plus the play is about equal or a little worse. St. Joseph's is 16-1-2 in women's soccer this year, but is 37th in the RPI.

Our major newspaper columnist in Charleston still wishes we were in the SoCon. A couple of weeks ago when Citadel had a huge SoCon football game against Chattanooga he spent basically half a column complaining about the move to the CAA.

http://www.postandcourier.com/staff/gene...89d71.html

(11-01-2016 04:05 PM)sctvman Wrote:  

(10-31-2016 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  UNCW and CoC should be in the same conference for the rest of time. Two like minded schools who emphasize the same sports. Its good to have them with us finally

(11-01-2016 07:55 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 07:06 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 05:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 01:56 AM)geewizNU Wrote:  I've been looking at these posts and if I may comment ...

I'm a little stunned as to how fast you all think UNCW is all of a sudden A-10 bound.

You just won your first title since 2006. How about you try and win a few more with the same coach to even be a legit part of the discussion.

And as far as I know, I haven't heard anything about them looking to expand and as someone who lives in A-10 country and has attended the last two conference tourneys at the Barclays Center, if they do look to expand they want it to be in a viable media market.

They took in Davidson after losing Charlotte because the city is a solid and growing market.

Oh and believe it or not, if UMass were to bolt and become a full time MAC member (instead of just football) NU would have a shot to replace the Boston area market. But our attendance does hurt our cause. But TV market money talks.

Hofstra fans for years have had this A-10 talk crap, but the NYC area already has Fordham. No need for two NYC area teams.

What if Keatts bolts after this year and you bring in another Benny Moss program killing coach? And this whole system thing is just a little too much hype for me.

Let's see how you play as the hunted now. UNCW has some flaws believe it or not.

As a regular part of our athletic program, surveys are sent to those who have an interest in our athletic program. We always ask and examine the conference we are in, and whether or not that conference is the best fit for UNCW.

The discussion about the A10 is based on the FUTURE of UNCW, and where the best fit may be.

The CAA is divided between schools with football and those without. Unfortunately, it has been driven by football for most of its' history and UNCW doesn't have football.

BASED ON THOSE FACTS, the A10...long term...MAY be the best fit for UNCW. Yes, we have to get back on the winning side long term to reach that goal. But, UNCW has had fan and alumni support for basketball over our history.

It is not out of the question to set our eyes on the A10 long term. We should be at 20,000 students by 2020. We now have a SYSTEM for our basketball program that can last beyond Keatts. And, UNCW would an additional program in basketball rich North Carolina in the A10 to partner with Davidson. There are a lot of good reasons to aim for the A10.

Fact is, unless the rest of the CAA steps up their game, the conference will remain a one bid conference. It may be that the CAA as a whole will step it up and become a multi-bid conference again. And, if it does, our opinion may change on remaining in the CAA.

I don't doubt that UNCW would love to be in the A-10 in the future.

I think NU could be too based on what UMass does and if we go on a winning roll the next few years.

I just never saw any talk about this on these boards prior to this season. I could be wrong on that.

And you still face a possible football problem in the A-10 as half of the league has football, although it doesn't obviously place an emphasis on it.

Nothing wrong with a school striving for what is best for them. An A10 south with uncw and CoC would be very very attractive for us. Travel no further north than DC with everyone in the division being basketball first.

A10 has always been a basketball first conference. All previous CAA expansions since VCU outside of CoC have been for football. Hofstra and NE were added because they had football and both schools then dropped football once they were safely in the conference. Hofstra prevented divisions by vetoing stony brook and now we are a 10 team round robin conference from Boston to Charleston. That is just not sustainable long term

CofC was picked because of men's basketball and baseball. Since the CAA move, we've made the NCAAs twice, made a super regional, and the other year (our worst in probably 20 years) we beat CCU twice, South Carolina, Clemson, and played UCSB to a win and a tie in a 3 game series.

I think we are in the right spot for baseball and basketball. I'd love to be in a A-10 type league with you guys, Richmond, GMU, VCU and GW, but in Olympic sports the travel would be tough, plus the play is about equal or a little worse. St. Joseph's is 16-1-2 in women's soccer this year, but is 37th in the RPI.

Our major newspaper columnist in Charleston still wishes we were in the SoCon. A couple of weeks ago when Citadel had a huge SoCon football game against Chattanooga he spent basically half a column complaining about the move to the CAA.

http://www.postandcourier.com/staff/gene...89d71.html

If A10 loses 2, lets say St Louis and Dayton, UNCW and CoC slide in very nicely

A10 NORTH - UMass, URI, St Bony, Duquenese, St. Joes, LaSalle, Fordham

A10 SOUTH - GW, GMU, Richmond, VCU, Davidson, UNCW, CoC

I can't think of a better, realistic scenario for our schools. Divisional travel from DC to Charleston, only 2 or 3 trips past DC in conference play. Solid Solid division with schools we all like to compete against.